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I'd just call it "luck"... But then again I'd see this as proof that there are no coincidences. Just when the music gets shitty the party is closed. Not an hour before, not an hour after. Just at that point. Interesting.

"MADRID Various shops with DJ supplies Address : calle las Palmas. A little north of Mercado fuencarral in calle fuencarral Comments : There are a few DJ shops in this street with some Goa on CDs and lots on Vinyl." guess where I have that from: http://web.archive.org/web/20040613021220/...ww.psynews.org/ -> goa shops -> spain

Good trance music don't need vocals ... maybe a bit experimenting with voice or using samples, but no real singing tune ... that's so awful...

haha, funny ... I know more than half of the artists names as local DJs That's actually cool because this compilation is full of local artists' creations. Samples not bad either...

Dark Soho? What I saw them doing wasn't much live except one guitar layer put over the tracks... Okay a bit was done with the synth too ... but not that much

true

The point is, I still love the music the artists make. And that's why I go there, to see them perform their music and to dance to it and catch good vibes. There is nothing that "gives me more in the long run" at the moment ... what should it be? Other music styles? Well, yes, there are some other that I like, but their concerts/venues are even harder to come by. So what shall I do? Other than going on like I do now and going where I like to go I can't do much. I believe my musical preferences will switch a bit away from psy (meaning also other electronica) in the future anyway ... but it will still forever play a role in my life. In 5 years I see me still listening to psy and stuff, but only going to a party once or twice a year, when some artist that I really wanna see comes here

and that's what I meant with the drug half-joke there above ... yes, you can't blame the drugs, but the people... And this is something I agree with. As much as you bitch and moan, you can't change a thing and you just contribute to an overall worse vibe. The only thing I can do against the crowds and their horrible music taste of now is just not to go to venues where this music is played and just to go out of the way of such people. Just as I don't go to RnB venues, because I don't like RnB ... there is no real other alternative. Although I still hate Skazi, Ass-kimo, Arsetricks and their minions

I don't hate my life away In fact I don't even care so much. But I'm of the opinion it's rather more reasonable to question who's sitting closer to the root and producing the shit than to question the people that eat it. Blaming the crowds is not really leading anywhere either because there are enough candy ravers out there who would be satisfied with even less intelligent music, so you can always go further towards the bottom...

I'd like to have the basic arranging of the layers done live (not just button on the lappy and then playing a layer on the synth and doing even this crappy) ... and maybe - where it's possible - a bit of tweaking/improvising or playing some melody on the synth. That would be what I want. I don't want the one-man-projects to perform wonders, I know they're limited ... so a smooth basic arranging so that there at least a few possibilities to alter the tracks and a bit of playing around and I'm content. Well, the reason for me to go out on a party is because I want to see an artist performing a set, presenting new tracks, new ideas, whatever. I don't go anymore because of music/atmosphere and not caring who and what is played ... I did that in the beginning where I just liked to be there at a psy festy, but I stopped that. Nowadays I only go on a psy festy because I wanna see a certain artist perform, there's no other reason ... haven't been to local DJ only shows since 2 years ... I just don't find that attractive anymore.

Yes, the crowds are actually worse than the artists playing the awful music. But who was responsible for intitially CREATING the awful music? Always the ARTIST, never the crowd! The initial command to this downfall was given by an ARTIST! The crowd just followed! I concentrate my hate about everything - about the crowd, the awful music, the commercialisation of the scene and the loss of the magic - on one thing: the person on stage playing the crap! Even though he's just part of the system and not the root of the evil. In truth the drugs are responsible. For they make people become those brainless zombie crowd followers! (that was a joke ... but meant with a grain of truth )

indeed, what you said above sounds quite interesting never heard of Mantrix before ... but I checked it out And in the past you did really trigger the playing of every sound live on stage - no pre-mastered layers? Respect ... I think there are very few artists who have ever done that. I understand though that it greatly reduces the possibilities and limits creativity when you have to trigger everything manually and thus you switched to the pre-mastered layers which can be controlled one by one. Leaves you with more possibilities and better sound quality ... and that's a good thing. It's exactly the way I would want it ... the artist still performing the tracks live by arranging the layers on stage and modifying them here and there or adding melodies or whatever ... I wouldn't ask for anything more. And you still got the live drums and guitar ... that sounds like it's gonna be a splendid live experience when I come to see you performing one day! You know, in many cases when there's a live set announced here and the project is just one person then you just got a personal appearance from the artist, most sounds coming from a pre-mastered CD or laptop set and one or two layers played live on a synth, a few knobs twisted and that is it. Or they screw the playing of the two layers and focus on arranging (which is mostly just pretentiousness, because it's pre-arranged ... but whatever). But that is it. When you're just one person you are pretty limited in this way anyway. When it's two persons it's mostly that one arranges and the other one plays the layers. And when it's three or more persons then you can do even more - one does percussion layer, one does guitar layer and so on... I wonder how people like Atmos do their live sets? Do they like I stated it with one person acts? Or are they just DJing? Anybody has seen Atmos?

well, you must have liked it, there is no other reason anybody here on Psynews would go on such a gig except that he likes Eskimo, because everyone on here knows how bad he is! just kidding Though I'd be interested what devil rode you to go to an ESKIMO gig???

Because of the recent discussions I'm interested which artists are actually still making a real live set? Or at least as live as it can get? Or not even THAT live, but you know, finding the balance between pre-mastering and live performing, delivering a partly mastered, but still fresh and interesting set with at least some playing or improvising done live? Who still delivers LIVE sets that make you smile? I'd say artists like Son Kite (they're doing one track "as live as it can get", one track from CD, one track live and so on ... good approach, fresh sound and enough playing around (one word: violin) - that's what I call nice), Etnoscope (live drums, live synth ... I don't know their liveset politics, but what they delivered was undoubtly pretty live, even having one or two tinywiny errors at one point or two - but those are not bad, they make me smile, because of these little errors I know they are doing this thing live and not from CDs!), S.U.N. Project (the drums were live, some synths, the guitar ... enough elements to keep it interesting I think) are doing pretty much live. Unsure I'm about Tegma, Mittelstandskinder Ohne Strom and Prisoners Of The Sun ... it all looked pretty live what I saw (not just hiding behind laptop) and it were good sets, but I am not fully sure, don't know their liveset politics ... although I definitely gotta say it was good even if it was not much live. Also Quantum State or Grapes Of Wrath didn't just hide behind their lappy ... but still, I know too little to say anything definite.

oh yes, mostly the "live set" of nowadays is just the artist making an appearance and the pressing of some knobs... sad but then again it's necessary to pre-master sets or parts of them in advance in the studio or wherever because first the sounds will be more polished and well arranged (and not in the stress (and drunken-/stonedness) of a party) and second it's never possible for one or two persons alone to do EVERYTHING live simultaneously. the best artists are those who pre-master partly, but still keep enough room for live playing around and stuff, making the whole thing a good, playful, fresh experience...

Best (I prefer the word "outstanding", as I can't name a single best one): Koxbox / Saiko-Pod (they (well, it was just Frank ... Ian was ill, but you still have to say "they" because DJ Acan was jumping in for some parts so that the audience can still experience a set that is somewhat live, you know) delivered a 5 hour live/DJ set and at the same time it was my first psy gig with an international liveact too ... absolutely great experience), S.U.N. Project (that whole night was perfect, not just them, but the whole night ... unforgettable for me), Etnoscope, ... These were the most outstanding ones ... but in fact all international liveacts that I saw until now never really sucked real bad ... even if the set was not so good, the overall vibe was never negative - EXCEPT at the following gig: Logic Bomb ... unfortunately, unfortunately ... Logic Bomb are actually quite good, I know, but that one was not good. It was only one of them two guys - the other one was ill - and nobody did help him (like Acan did with Frank, I told above). So it was basically just DJ set, you know ... and the set didn't really catch me ... and in addition to that the high entry fee and the not-so-nice people made me somewhat more and more pissed off until I really got bored with the music and ranty with all the everything ... this was the ONLY gig where I left the psy floor before four and waited in the chill until the first metro goes. I really hated this evening. Unfortunately, unfortunately ... could have stayed at home and would have been better off with nerve and money

genious post, Charlie AS for the tune ... nice, but I think it's already too housy for me. I am actually a fan of psy-house/club crossovers, but in this one there's just no psy anymore. It lacks something ... it's too monotonous, you know. No matter where I skip to, it's always this beat - no break, no change ... somewhat monotonous. Background synths nice though.

oh I always thought that stuff is so rare?

I'm dead serious!

What if I hate both the hippies and the chavs? Go on, hang me.

exactly what a ripoff

Eskimo will fix it he will come with his killer fat bass and together with Skazi and Infected Mushroom it will be a nice party that does make you happy, doesn't it?

AHAAA - now I finally get why people always refer to the Astral album as Trust In Trance 3! So this isn't even the real goldie, the two Trust In Trance compilations released before are even more sought after... Am I right?

horrific videos The Shpongle one is cool though ... except Raja maybe

Morgana (from Morganixx ... and meanwhile Magnetrixx too)