Ormion
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Man, I haven't logged in months and the very first topic that I see is EP stating he's leaving the scene. It's like I've been transported back to 2003. Or 2005. Or 2008. Or every year cause that's what EP does. Biggest drama queen of our scene. -
Have anyone else tried to relisten his entire collection?
Ormion replied to Ormion's topic in General Psytrance
I personally stopped listening by alphatical order and went full random. 353 down/1062 to go -
Actually this track ain't bad at all. https://youtu.be/o9PCfPXWBFg I can enjoy cheesy full on as long the melodies are nice and this one have some tasty goa-ish melodies. The thing is that I've never heard of this group in my life so seeing 10 millions views on yt was a shocker.
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What I don't get is how these "unknown" in our scene artists got so popular so fast. You see I get Astrix. I mean he's active for almost 20 years now and he's considered a full on pioneer. I also get Talamasca. He was always popular and now that he's playing commercial Goa is bound to be super successful. But Vini Vici? They used to be Sesto Sento, a semi-popular full on group and now even my granma knows them. Or Hilight Tribe? I remember they were this niche band that played instruments during their live performances. Now they have million of views. And what about Tropical Bleyage? Who the fuck are Tropical Bleyage?
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Man I have a lot of catching up to do. Keep em coming!
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Damn rip. Parkinson is really brutal, my father had it as well.
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Have anyone else tried to relisten his entire collection?
Ormion replied to Ormion's topic in General Psytrance
Yes god damn it, I'm still doing that! Unfortunately 2020 was a shitty year for all my hobbies including listening to music, but at least the quarantine kinda helped. I am at no 340. But I still have 1075 releases left! -
Damn long time no see. Unfortunately work and various life problems got in the way and I haven't log in in a long time. The thing is that I completely missed every psy related stuff in 2020. Another problem is that I'm kinda broke so I stopped bying cds. Unfortunately following digital releases is exhausting since they are like...thousands. So what did I miss in 2020? I'm interested in every style except Progressive and super cheesy Full On. I also like my Goa a bit less formulaic. Bring it on!
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Twilight is basically harder, fatter, more aggressive full on. You can have many different sounds in the twilight subgenre. For example Sidhartha or Tryon are more fat, meanwhile Seroxat or Azax Syndrom are like harder israeli full on. I didn't mention any South African artists because they have their own unique sound even though they're technically twilight (in fact the term twilight has been coined by South African artists).
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That sounds like UK Psytrance. But UK Psytrance is already somewhere between twilight and darkpsy so I wouldn't sweat too much about it. I made a YouTube playlist couple of years ago, I hope it helps.
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I'm here 15 years later to say once again that this is legit one of the top 10 albums in goa/psy history.
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Azax Syndrom, Khopat, Sidhartha, Tryambaka, Phatmatix, Seroxat, Killer Buds. All of them are classic examples of Twilight.
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Do you think psytrance newcomers find old school goa outdated?
Ormion replied to Ormion's topic in General Psytrance
What about the writing aspect instead of the production values like proper mastering, better overall sound etc? For example would a newcomer find Pleiadians-IFO or Family Of Light outdated compared to a new Pleiadians track like this? I can understand a very basic Goa track from 1994, I too find most of them outdated to be honest, but something like old Sandman for example sound pretty modern, production excluded. But since my first love was old school Goa I'm obviously biased, that's why I'm curious. -
I'm talking about either styles that are no more (tech trance,psy techno of 1999-2001) or specific periods of a style like early period of full on or something. Mine are: -Old school Goa. Duh! New school can't fill the void, sorry. -Golden period of South African psy 2003-2007. By far my favourite period of post 2000 psytrance. Every month you've got a different album or compilation by Timecode and Nexus Media plus other labels like MMD or Afrogalactic. And most of them being absolutely fantastic. -Early Goa Full On blend. I'm talking about 1998-2000 period where artists start to make Goa more full on-ish, but still being psychedelic and crazy. Artists like Xerox & Freeman or early 3D Vision (Talamasca, Absolum, Mael), Virtuart, Passenger etc. That's a style I don't think we'll ever get back. What about you?
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So as a part of relistening my entire collection (yes I'm still doing that) I revisited Sandman-Witchcraft. The first thing that came to my mind is how much futuristic does it sound despite being 22 years old. Coincidentally the latest cd I bought, the new Deck Wizards features a new Sandman track that unsurprisingly it's lame full on. So I'm wondering if the newcomers in goa/psy, people who missed the old days find old school goa outdated, despite in some cases sounding more modern. What do you think?
