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You know what? That's an incredible backup idea if my house burns down! Great! I always was fearing about my CD collection in such a case! Now I have a solution!!! Thankies I'd copy all of them BTW. Or wait ... not all ... probably not all metal ones ... but certainly psy, everything psy!

You surely mean Sonnenklang... Details you want? What details? A link to the site has been given above ... look there...

for prog: Sonic Cube - Filter for full: S-Range - Another Theory - The Remixes

Psytrance or Goa music can not or only very rarely make me cry. I listen to this stuff to be HAPPY, not to cry I generally don't listen to music to cry actually. But it's not that I don't cry to music at all ... it's just ... psytrance can for me actaully not achieve these deep emotions. Mike Oldfield - Celtic Rain made me cry...

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Oh my... Nooo, not Spiral Trax please ... it was my favourite label for quality scandinavian music Shit... Rest In Peace. *sheds a tear*

yeah, indeed cool I wouldn't have thought either that I'd find somebody here who'd love that remix of the "Is Anybody Out There" track as much as I do

aye ... this is a damn, damn good song... I really loved it back then. An epic trance masterpiece. Nowadays I dislike it though, I hate this trance stuff, even if I try to be tolerant and all that, I can't like it very much anymore as hard as I try ... but still, I'd say this was one of the best trance tracks ever for me! I also never found anything quite like it ... tried the Magikal Remake of Willow, but that wasn't as good as this one. Well ... what stuff did I love back then ... hmmm ... some that I remember (not the ultra best ones maybe, but certainly in the top ones - for me at least): DJ Tiesto - Urban Train (you can hang me for that, yeah, but I loved the song, can't do anything about it ... hate Tiesto though ) System F vs Armin Van Buuren - Exhale Sonorous - Protonic (Ronski Speed Mix) RMB - Deep Down Below (Humate Remix) Shane - C'Est Muzique (Armin Van Buuren Remix) Marc Et Claude - I Need Your Lovin' (Darkmoon Remix) Autumn - Lava (Megamind Mix) Mauro Picotto - Rosso O Nero Plastic Boy - Twixt E-Wok - Go Back Talla 2XLC vs Taucher - Together 99 and of course - how could I forget: Talla 2XLC - Is Anybody Out There (DJ Taucher Remix) this one is even good until now

You know ... after the second listen I must say the part from 5:07 to 5:32 in that song I find quite good but the rest is crap ... 25 seconds good 7 minutes 29 seconds (=449 seconds) bad that's 5,2742616033755274261603375527426 percent good 5 points out of 100 -> result: utter crap

viva full on killargh vivargh! what a crap

It's a good idea. But also I'm of the opinion that it's difficult to reach the right organizers... You know what I somewhat think? I think you'll get a load of responses like "we are good organizers, we always pay our artists, we never do bad and what a dork are you to actually think that we would not pay artists etc..." and the organizers who really got some shit on their stick will shut up and never reply a word to you Still, it's worth the try

I was into that stuff ... years ago. I loved it - back then. Nowadays for me trance/techno can fuck itself in the knee. I hate it. Anyway ... if I were you I'd keep that first Volume. It's quite hard to get by nowadays. It's a collector's item. At least I'd say so. I've got Volumes 2 and 4 lying around - and I won't sell them for cheap even if I never listened to them anymore - they're ten years old, some really old trance classics are on them ... I really believe that stuff is worth something. And back then it really was this old DREAM TRANCE music - yes, the style I mean - which has actually not much to do with today's commercial trance shit that's out there...

no ... you could run it Nah, seriously ... it's a nice idea and I'd be in for it any time, but you're right, it lacks somewhat perspective. Still, it's not dumb I think. Runned it can be by whomever. By me. By you. Best would be if there's no real individual who "runs" it, it's an organisation where the people, that are in the organisation, run it. Furthermore I think the big superstars would never join something like that anyway, since they don't pay attention to what some wannabe hippies are doing, so that problem would be solved - you don't need to ban them when they don't come. Truthspeaking is up to the people who read the reports. Investigating and shite should be done though. The last one I doubt too Anyway, would it be so bad?

most played this year: S-Range - Another Theory (shhh, don't tell anyone ... ) Makyo - Shringara Goa-Head 21 Sonic Cube - Filter

cool video for that he's improvising he deserves even more respect!

Yes, yes, YES! A PSY-TRANCE "FAIRTRADE" CERTIFICATE SEAL! This is something I have been thinking of lately. An independent platform/organisation, operating in the scene and on the net, who is giving out these "Fairtrade Certificate Seals" to those labels and organizers who really pay their artists well and don't rip them off! And of course also with a blacklist for those who do rip off! Damn, that's a great idea! For the benefit of the whole scene and as a sort of protection for the artists and as a way to really give fedback how they are treated by labels and organizers - a place to rant about the baddies and a place to praise the goddies! The death of the commercial ripoff industry! Okay, not the death ... for that we wouldn't be strong enough. But it certainly states a point! You just have to see how the scene acclaims this idea... I'd be in for that

oh crap we got both Electric Universe and Space Tribe coming here in September ... obviously because of that collaboration ... but when it's just crap fullon I'll think twice before going there

my favourite artist/sound? look at my sig

Good luck man that was a brave move ... I hope it turns out good for you...

ouch You know why? That is because there are "newbie" organizers out there who are naive and have no experience and just think it's "cool" to organize a festival. "Hippie Shanti Style", you know? As it is in our scene ... many people are naive and unexperienced and their "dream" is to organize something, contribute to the scene ... and then they aren't motivated 100%, don't calculate well or fuck something up or whatever. I mean, I don't wanna degrade them and their good intentions, but there are many cases where it goes like that. Of course this shouldn't be a generalisation in any way - you know how many festivals/parties are actually organised with a lot of profession. But just love, care and a good heart don't guarantee that it goes well, you know? Again, I don't want to degrade anything here and I don't want to generalize in any way - it's actually the other way round from my experience ... I have been to hardly any party that wasn't good (although I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, you know) - but you can't deny that there are people in our scene who have this somewhat naive attitude (in fact the characteristic "beautiful world" attitude where everybody is your friend and where everything is so cool and smooth and where it is so easy to organize something ... I don't wanna use the word "hippie attitude", you know, but this is actually what I'm talking about) and think they can set up something big when in fact they neither have the experience nor the perspective. And that is the reason why in the end there goes so much wrong sometimes ... even if they are nice persons and all is cool - when they lack perspective and profession those things can happen. And that's the thing with our scene. Of course there are many talented organizers there - the good experiences of artists and the audience on many festivals speak for it ... and sometimes it even works with the attitude although people lack experience and it all goes well. But sometimes it doesn't. And well ... then things like that happen. Poor Kris. I wish you good luck with your future projects. And it's good that you continue making music

Yes. I too think it's really him that's what I believe ... because it would explain the sudden change from chilliness (as Seraph said) to his anger mood now... anyway... Yes, you are right, you don't blame everybody. You just blame more or less all organisers, all labels and all the audience of this music. No, don't say now you don't. You wrote it: And this includes all organisers, all labels and all the audience - and that includes me. And that's why I feel I gotta say something about this. If you would have intended not to blame everybody then you would have written "I AM ANGRY AT THE PART OF THE ORGANISERS WHO..." and vice versa for the other two. Anyway, I don't wanna rant too much about that now, it's not the purpose of the thread. Thing is, I can understand you. Yes, the scene is going down the drain (we knew this already a long time ago though). And yes, there are many dodgy organisers, many dodgy labels and indeed also a major part of the audience who just rip artists off by downloading and such. But the point is, if the last people who really care for the scene and release good music because of their inner motivation to do it and not because of the money, if those last people leave the sinking ship ... well, you know what will happen then, don't you? It will even more certainly and even faster go down, down, down ... until we are at the point where a bunch of gabba chavs make the windscreen-wiper for Skazi and you get beaten up, because you looked at one of them. If I were you I'd found a new label ... and I'd found it for the artists who are as pissed off as you are! I can't do that for you, dude. I have no experience, I don't know any people who are into psytrance except this forum here and I have no money. The only thing I can do is to save some money so that I can buy some stuff you release when I like it

All time favourite track? Hmmm... Dimension 5 - Transformation ... I think that is it. Or, better said, it's not IT, but it's one of them ... for there are some others too. It's too hard to mention THE one time favourite ... what music I like the most in a certain moment depends on mood, setting and other stuff too. S-Range - Dimension Jump for example ... that's also one all time favourite... And many more ... Atmos - Fill The Hat, Hallucinogen - Shamanix ... also Carbon Based Lifeforms - Rise To Tomorrow and actually their whole Hydroponic Garden album... AND NOMA - SOON OF COURSE!

absolutely seconded ... Makyo is wonderful middle eastern influenced chillout music The dude who mentioned Natacha Atlas (wonderful singer btw) and that she's too hip-hoppish ... I agree with him ... but check out the track Makyo - Natasha ... it has Makyo sound (not that chilled though) and Natachas voice ... very good Muslimgauze too is kinda cool ... it depends, you must be into that sound of his and you must like this experimetialness ... but if you're into that, then it's cool ... this dude was special anyway ... died so young, but kinda foresaw this middle eastern conflict and produced so much music back then so that they still can release new stuff of him nowadays! Incredible... I really like this thread ... the funny thing is I soon was going to post one myself because I need my middle eastern fix again ... but now I don't need to ... and there are already many artists mentioned that I can check out ... cool

Cool that they still rock live! Although their new stuff is really not my cup of tea anymore, music wise ... just depressive and not good anymore I love the old Depeche Mode though ... and as I see in that list of songs they still do play old songs, so it's probably not that bad going to see them live

Diskovery Channel can not serve as a very good example of the sound of Human Blue's earlier albums ... because Human Blue is actually not chill, it's scandinavian trance. You should give the other stuff a listen