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Purely speculation, but I think any and every goa producer has been high at one time or another :D The most exciting kind of music is born when the performers are trippin balls.

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MrAnarchy    221

Im pretty sure that not one great track was made while the artists were high.

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technosomy    262

personally i don't know if they did, but it would have been brief at best

you would be surprised at how many producers don't do it now and didn't back in the golden age

we had a topic like this a few years ago,

alot of artists explained how difficult it would be to do just that,and i get the feeling this one will be put straight shortly

i know of a few producers who belong to this forum, especially one very respected, who makes music you would think "altered"

but not, and i like and respect that

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Richpa    920

How could you make this without drugs?

 

Human capability to feel the music or artistic creativity, it doesn't matter, what matters the most that we can enjoy the great music no matter the fact is someone using certain substances.

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Imba    321

Human capability to feel the music or artistic creativity, it doesn't matter, what matters the most that we can enjoy the great music no matter the fact is someone using certain substances.

 

Some of best music came from artists who never even tried alchohol... or anything else and i know some...

 

Pure briliance and true power of human mind! :)

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Padmapani    424

Im pretty sure that not one great track was made while the artists were high.

probably not too far from the truth. but i think that drugs have served as inspiration for many many artists. they can often give people different perspectives and a different perception of music that can accessed later in a sober state of mind.

if i try to pinpoint the time in an artists carreer when they make the best music, i would say it's the time coming immediately after the wildly experimental (presumably heavily drug influenced) phase. give them more time and the output "loses the magic" and becomes realatively "boring" again. i think pink floyd are an excellent example for this. before 1970 their sound is extremely psychedelic but their peak comes with more sophisticated sound of medde or dark side of the moon (or the other albums from around that time) in 1973. afterwards their music becomes more and more conventional and loses its special appeal. rock music is easier to look at in this respect because there are more years to look at and the status of the bands as stars gives us more information about their drug use.

 

and of course there are those kinds of geniuses like salvador dalí and frank zappa, who don't need drugs to come up with way-out there, highly psychedelic art — but imho these are the exceptions.

just look at the music of the beatles pre- and post-psychedelics. the difference is like night and day. and they were not bad musicians in any way.

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Trunksan    84
Did MFG ever take drugs?

 

I'll call my mate (doctor) at the Israeli army to check their blood tests.

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Colin OOOD    84

Producing electronic music whilst tripping is HARD. Did it once, in 1995.  I like what came out of that night but I didn't enjoy the process.

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XoArK    54

Well, if you read one of the back covers in a certain CD album they released (forgot which one), they stated they were against drugs. But they might have used them beforehand to judge the experience.

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acid-brain    122

Producing electronic music whilst tripping is HARD. Did it once, in 1995.  I like what came out of that night but I didn't enjoy the process.

Nice, really trippy, sounds are very suggestive. Love the name too, Pharmarama brilliant hahahah.

 

Human capability to feel the music or artistic creativity, it doesn't matter, what matters the most that we can enjoy the great music no matter the fact is someone using certain substances.

That sounds nice but I don't think it's true. There's a distinction between music that sounds good while tripping and music that sounds worse. And I imagine it's hard for an artist to get it absolutely right unless they've listened to and re-listened to their own altered sounds under the influence themselves.

 

That's why you get people turning up to Discogs and saying they like Goa trance but never understood the hype about Hallucinogen, Pleiadians. It's because they haven't listened to Twisted under the right conditions, pure and simple. The oldschool artists were masters at finding the frequencies and timbres that sound suggestive and really mess with your head, like I mentioned about Colin OOOD's track above.

 

I definitely think it's possible to train your mind to 'hear' in a more tripped out way over time or even to be slightly that way naturally, but it's still not the same as the real thing.

 

MFG are the only exception I can call to mind of where the artists made ultimate next-level trippy music and still claimed to be off the drugs. That's why I made this thread. Although as XoArK pointed out, I may have misinterpreted the message. I thought it was in the booklet for The Message but I can't find it.

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technosomy    262

Some of best music came from artists who never even tried alchohol... or anything else and i know some...

 

Pure briliance and true power of human mind! :)

respect!

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johnb820    158

I am just going to repeat what others have said. Making music while tripping (Or I suppose really intoxicated on any substance) just does not happen. It's not that you couldn't fiddle around with your gear or otherwise, it's just that you're trying desperately to answer why you would do such a thing, while you intensely stare into the fractals emerging from your popcorn ceiling. You know, you have to deal with more important issues, like why your hands don't seem to be located where they should be, or why laughter seems to be emitting from your mirror.

 

However, I will say that psychedelics kind of force you to come to terms with sounds and how they present themselves. We don't often realize that with sounds alone the human mind can fully realize 3-dimensional space. Our ears are designed to tell us where sounds are coming from as a survival mechanism. And when you break down all the elements of music you can physically place specific sounds in specific locations. You don't need psychedelics to affirm that, but they certainly push you towards that affirmation when your ordinary sensory input is being challenged, and with manipulation of those sounds you can suggest much more intricate and abstract physical space.

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acid-brain    122

I am just going to repeat what others have said. Making music while tripping (Or I suppose really intoxicated on any substance) just does not happen. It's not that you couldn't fiddle around with your gear or otherwise, it's just that you're trying desperately to answer why you would do such a thing, while you intensely stare into the fractals emerging from your popcorn ceiling. You know, you have to deal with more important issues, like why your hands don't seem to be located where they should be, or why laughter seems to be emitting from your mirror.

 

However, I will say that psychedelics kind of force you to come to terms with sounds and how they present themselves. We don't often realize that with sounds alone the human mind can fully realize 3-dimensional space. Our ears are designed to tell us where sounds are coming from as a survival mechanism. And when you break down all the elements of music you can physically place specific sounds in specific locations. You don't need psychedelics to affirm that, but they certainly push you towards that affirmation when your ordinary sensory input is being challenged, and with manipulation of those sounds you can suggest much more intricate and abstract physical space.

Agree with every sentence. It's about the spatial, colour, and kinetic qualities of sounds coming alive, and transforming from sounds to shapes to living beings to Hindu deities back to sounds again in our mind's eyes.

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Taika-Kim    43

I never used drugs or alcohol. And I'm piss tired of having to go through this every time I play a gig somewhere and the psychoteens don't believe it at all :D I wouldn't care otherwise, but I think it's sad that most of my fans imagine I'm a huge user and are under the impression that this kind of music can't be made without mind altering substances  :( Not exactly what I hope to stand for in life.

 

Sorry all "psychoteens" if that sounded condescending to you, but this really bothers me, and is one of the reasons I have kept a bit of a distance to the so-called scene throughout the years.

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thanosp81    310

I never used drugs or alcohol. And I'm piss tired of having to go through this every time I play a gig somewhere and the psychoteens don't believe it at all :D I wouldn't care otherwise, but I think it's sad that most of my fans imagine I'm a huge user and are under the impression that this kind of music can't be made without mind altering substances  :( Not exactly what I hope to stand for in life.

 

Sorry all "psychoteens" if that sounded condescending to you, but this really bothers me, and is one of the reasons I have kept a bit of a distance to the so-called scene throughout the years.

Amen brother

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Ormion    426

 

Drugs or not I have On Mars on repeat for the whole day.

Most badass Goa track ever.

 

BADASS

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