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See here, where an (alledged?) insider talks about these technics, in German tho. The title translates to "The Rap hack, buy yourself in the charts, how click numbers are manipulated" Der Rap Hack: Kauf Dich in die Charts! Wie Klickzahlen manipuliert werden @RTP: I like this experiment and wanted to do this myself also one day, seems no one was interested in your idea tho. If it is guaranteed that not a complete channel at YT can be deleted if this is detected by the "AI" I can contribute a video/song recently released for example (it is kind of tech-trance stuff not psy - but for this experiment it does not need to be psy but at least some related genres imho). But I doubt anything comes out of that, as recently it seems forum member working together worked out seldom (like the psynews track or is this still in the works?)

@Manuser:The artist himself I would probably not have found, but YES this choir sounds familiar...edit ah ok Talamasca - remember the track name need to re-check it...did you get the idea from the comment on the track: Duch91vor 3 Jahren Kaval Sviri - beautiful bulgarian love song. ? @astralprojection: Style reminds me on Portishead, if you say TripHop

The name of the "physician" in above article rang a bell and I googled him, he is not a medical doctor in my view. He did however "debunk" some other "conspiracies" in some other older article (not C but perhaps moon landing etc.).which I read and found weak so I remembered him... But can you believe it he also wrote a book with me on the cover !! https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/418omENx2QL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg In 2019 here link to book (also not about C-Virus but now he is an expert on vaxxes for C in above article) yeah right... https://www.amazon.de/Verschwörungsmythen-verdrehten-Fakten-verkauft-werden/dp/3777627801 See, no coincidences anymore for me, this guy seems a paid shill and was dragged through the media before selling "CT´s" as mentally sick or greedy money stealing people (some of them are yes, mayn are not and many CT´s turned out to be true) Oh and whow what he says here: Die Corona-Impfung ist besonders gefährlich für Allergiker Gegen den Wirkstoff ist niemand allergisch. Wenn überhaupt gegen die Zusatzstoffe (WTF?). Diese sind aber auch in vielen anderen Arzneimitteln enthalten. Da unterscheidet sich die Impfung von Biontech und Pfizer in nichts von einer herkömmlichen Impfung. Im Gegenteil. Das Risiko eines anaphylaktischen Schocks ist bei einer Grippeimpfung viel höher (really?) , da diese mit Hühnereiweiß hergestellt wird. or here: Der Corona-Impfstoff ist nicht ausreichend getestet worden Das ist ein Schlussfolgerung von Laien, die das ganze Prozedere nicht kennen. Sehr viel, was normalerweise in den ersten Phasen einer Impfstoffzulassung passiert, war schon fertig bevor (! means in English the C-vax was ready BEFORE C existed, do you need to know more) Corona überhaupt existierte. Das lag nach SARS in der Schublade (REALLY? see what I said above, earlier "epidemics" like "SARS lolol) OOPS more from the specialist "pysician" sorry German, perhaps put it in a translator. An der Impfung will sich die Pharamindustrie bereichern Impfstoffe machen nur zwei Prozent der Kosten für Arzneimittel aus. Die größten deutschen Pharmaunternehmen stellen zum Beispiel gar keine Impfstoffe her. Und selbst bei großen internationalen Produzenten, beträgt der Anteil am Gesamtgeschäft nicht mehr als 25 Prozent. Im Pharmamarkt sind Impfstoffe deshalb eigentlich kein großes Thema (Perhaps but for Biotech and DNA companies!) Richtig viel verdienen kann man damit nicht, weil sie eben auch nicht teuer sein dürfen. Für die Branchenriesen geht es bei Corona-Impfstoffen eher ums Prestige. (REALLY? These giant (=Riese) companies do not care about the money, but for their prestige.... so NOT for the health of the people but their PRESTIGE (or image), whowww "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt

Surprised to find a nice and mostly civil discussion about that topic. I have not much to add, but a lil hint I am more leaning towards the "conspiracy" side of things. Except what @astralprojectionmentioned you can also look up Klaus Schwab and the WEF (World Economy Forum): Btw. as recent times show the "conspiracy theorists" were mostly right warning of 1984 and Brave New World...eg. "contact tracing" is pure NWO stuff imho. There would be so much to say but I understand this topic is sensible and one just wants to beat down someone who has a differing view then the "official line" on a deadly disease this is understandable.. But 2 anecdotes - there are researchers out there, who found many hints in popular culture like movies, books and music for an event what could be described perhaps as a 2nd 9/11 and the location is somewhere on the westcoast of the US. Well that did not happen so far (terrorists - bombing or natural disaster is in the books) - this is called predictive programming or also foreshadowing. Partly it became true cause in Seattle (= westcoast) was the first US case of C plus there is Microsoft HQ and Gates lives or lived there. - here a somewhat funny thing, the address from the biggest German vax company (also they do cancer treatments) which gets a big contract from the gov for lots of vaxxes probably not on the cheap is: BioNTech SE An der Goldgrube 12 (=goldmine) 55131 Mainz Deutschland Edit some headlines: Impfstoff-Produktion: Biontech fordert mehr Geld – für drei Milliarden Dosen Biontech fordert staatliche Investitionen für Ausbau der Impfstoffproduktion Biontech wünscht sich mehr Geld für Impfstoff-Produktion OH YEAH i also WISH ME MORE MONEY... but I am a "useless eater" and not a Biotech company, or millitary, or bankster or Milliardär (sp in English?). Do people remember past "epidemics" ? Like bird flu etc. Millions of doses of vaxxes had to be trashed but the companies earned of course. As it turned out the diseases were just not very dangerous (in the past).. using the "history repeats itself" term and can for sure speculate it may be the case this time too. Only the measures etc. are much more enforced, perhaps these earlier "epidemics" were kind of test runs of the big one we have now ? Just asking questions and speculate a bit...not to mention the dozens of docs and profs coming out with the same. Past experience and events have told me that there are very rarely coincidences in politics or economics..- also what proves you when your test says positive it is not just either the flu itself or a simmilar virus. A serious flu is deadly also to old and weakened person.. 80 year old dies when he has an heart attack, later they "find the virus" in him and the death certificate then says C has done it.. yeah where is the normal but can be deadly flu gone? Are flu cases now C-cases? Mh. Oops a bit to much written...lol Personal note, I have not gotten any vax in the last 12-13 years or so, I did not get a serious flu or something simmilar at all. While I remember when I was younger I got shots which as a child is partly mandatory anyway. And I was often sick when I was younger also stomach problems etc. Ok, I also did not eat the healthiest ways. My personal conclusion is vax seem to more promote illness - one can of course totally have other experiences but that is mine. Well if one looks at incridients of vaxxes there is eg. alluminium and it is rumored something with aborted fetuses (I hope from animals) this ofc may be really a bad conspiracy theory admitted. Oh luckily this what I said above is already "debunked" by the MSM and a physician here: https://www.op-online.de/verbraucher/impfmythen-finden-bei-skeptikern-und-verschwoerungstheoretikern-grossen-anklang-wissenschaftler-aus-bad-homburg-klaeren-auf-90176600.html Guess when they say so it must be true, right ?

Ah I know that one too and actually remember it well... somewhat chilly tune - but also a bit ruined by these "choir or voice" samples. Alien Project reminds on Alien Product darkelectro from Argentinia, they had some nice tunes.. I also clicked on half of the tracks in here and it clicked not for me but some were quite nice in somewhat naive "proto goa" way - if someone knows what I mean, probably not

Oh well I have this DCD too,I can not remember a single track.. perhaps the worst "Goa" sampler I ever bought, yes quite cheap, but....and this track is "okay" but not much more imho. ZYX music normally put out dance+pop, so no wonder they compiled this with not much knowledge of the genre at all. Funny the label is also located not far away from me, just like Akanoid

And here is the track "Sundance" (not on any album I think): Oh WTF up to 1:50 this sounded promising They surely know how to put irritating stuff in their songs

I have still an album from Akanoid, but it irritated me with some vocals, seems they went more to synthpop on that one. In fact I like some synth-wave-pop but Akanoid seemed on the cheesier side of things. Not like old Depeche, Beborn Beton, Wolfsheim or so (from those I like almost all "older" works). I always somehow associate Akanoid with Element, I believe later Element tracks also had some kind of vox and both are from Germany. Transform album however has some kewl tracks. Even I know the Space Cat track lol But I believe it was not so much my taste, need to re-listen - just now .. ah quite nice tune, bit too "melodic" perhaps (yeah I like melodies too but it must have a not cheesy feel..I am gulity of cheese too you know it lol) Here a link for Akanoid (ger): https://www.backstagepro.de/akanoid Brings back memories not only was I right they went synthpop, vox and guitars - but also the new label from them was Echozone., I know this one well, when I was writing for a "dark scene/Indus/ebm/synth etc" magazine, the Echozone stuff mostly was quite poppy so was not to thrilled getting promos from this label (tbh). I even know the metalband from one of the members "Dark Millennium" Here the CD I have: https://www.discogs.com/de/Akanoid-Metamorphin/release/341867

If you want OLDschool, DARK and gritty stuff from around 2000ish here is an unknown artist in this (psy/goa) scene but somewhat better in the Indus/EBM scene. However he has at least 2 tracks which would be "on topic" in this forum. These 2 are "Sade" and "Der Teufel", to a lesser degree also "Civil War" I wonder if I am correct in this estimination. I still struggle to sort in certain songs, perhaps cause they still have more "Industrial" then Trance - no idea you judge...this is no happy, melodic goa - so do not beat me up if you expected that. You can just play all 7 titles in a row also the not so trancy ones: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=29989&content=songs Is only 128bit and mixing etc. not the best, but as I said kinda has grit or rawness to it - which seemed to still work for many listeners, as some of the tracks were in the genre charts even a No. 7 another on 13...

Perhaps the same, I noted not many people in the vid , perhaps 2-3 or so. But even a garage can be a club, it is just very trvue kult underground then

I was in Isratrance forum too - seems long ago - quite empty over there now. I heard forums losing traffic in general because of f-book etc. TikTok and Instagram (I am not on any of these places). I found a video from NHJO where he plays in a club in Seoul (sp?) not sure if his own music but sounded not too bad I will glady listen to the Psynews track if it will materialize btw.

Here a newer Xeno track(mix) - his older stuff was better - but it has the same samples like the old VAC track "Phucking Freak" both overuse the film quotes "a bit" even the music itself is somewhat sameish ofc Xeno is faster https://xenomorph-official.bandcamp.com/track/sociopath-homicidal-pathology-mix Have read it is from "Seven" movie..

That looks bad ass, were can I download it, ooops I just noted 160=min bpm 2fast4me

Seems 80% of new topics are made by this guy, but would it not belong to the promo section..? Also why open a new thread just make ONE for your band and post your offers in this one?

Agreed - this may also be one of the reasons modern production suck, not only in Electronic but also in Metal. 95-96% of listeners will not hear much difference anyway, when they use shitty headphones,bad car stereo and also not very hifi systems at home. So why would "engineers" still care much...only the musicians itself mostly want their music good produced, but seems confused themselves that overcompressing, clipping and mixes with too much high (mid-high end in modern Metal is way to prevelant compared to the more grave sounding stuff of older days, drums sounding programmed not played etc.) is not = good sound.

Have listened to some of the examples in thread, I do not find very dark also most of it seems random noises thrown over kick/basslines (also too fast + "nervous"). Does not hold up well to other dark styles from the electronic music realm. Perhaps one of the reasons that people think "Psytrance is shit" or "Psytrance has no future"..when you tell em you like Psy but not the happy and trendy new stuff, then they google dark psy find this and think ohh well this is shit too Chiva Chandra ahem Cydonia not included I liked their stuff quite a bit..

Sorry no idea I have read positive things about Reaper and 60 days "for free trial" + cheap...this sounds like a fair offer to me. And a question has anyone tried out the speedsound stuff ? He seems the most active poster in this section. But why does he post a new thread for every offer he has instead ONE ? Would it also not be promo? He does not give much tipps at all or wants to discuss it seems.

Quite the same here, stopped a little bit later tho. I have/had at a high point ca. 600-700 CDs plus 100 vinyls or so. But from MANY genres, I also got some free promos when I was writing reviews for an online music magazine. My 3 main reasons not buying CDs anymore: a) My income has lowered b) I have not found so much newer music I would buy at all c) re-selling CDs is "quite" difficult esp. for unknown artists.

How about REAPER, it can be tried out legally and free for 60 days. It worked on my somewhat older Win7/64bit sys. However I could not get into it really, I de-installed after 3 days. BUT you are not me and might like it Plus: cheap. A new license includes free upgrades through REAPER version 7.99. There is only one version of REAPER. The license price depends on how you use it. $60 : discounted license. $225 : commercial license. You may use the discounted license if: You are an individual, and REAPER is only for your personal use, or You are an individual or business using REAPER commercially, and yearly gross revenue does not exceed USD $20,000, or You are an educational or non-profit organization.

I can make a noise or industrial-techno / metal mix...but goa nope Got bored by melodic psy anyway, a track of mine was accepted in a techno contest, so I guess this is more my direction even if I like almost no "newer" techno, strange.

Here are a lot of experts... I have an OT question... "Techno contest" in another forum (one is from me): https://recording.de/threads/techno-contest-das-voting.234894/ Can you guys listen to track no. 11. "Tresor" it sounds totally familiar to me, NOT saying the artist has stolen something ... and yes it is bit psytrance-like not 100% techno imho. ..but I need to know if I am the only one who knows a quite simmilar track from the broader "psy" genre..THANKS.

@recursion loop The 3 songs are ok.. they certainly do not hurt. Would not make it in my top popsongs tho. Same for the one @RTP posted. "Aigel" reminds a bit on Miss Kittin - which I find much better (at least the album I have)

What does the bibel say about this I wonder ? If there was God he must KNOW for sure what the difference is ! Waaaiiiit.. it seems God does not approve of synthbased music at all

Of course no difference, it is all techno ahem I meant "OONTZ OONTZ OONTZ" One can also sort it in the modern genre "copy&paste"

No it would be more like (example) AION (UK) (4) vs. AION (RUS) (12)