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There was this label named "cold meat industry" they had some finer stuff with more ambient and also (northern) ethno elements, I had a limited 2x CD compilation from them but sold it cause over album length it is too boring (single tracks work fine imho and are really dark) and also it had some collectors value (when CDs were still bought)

Well there was this style "industrial-noise" already 25+ years ago, here even a track from one of the better known artists named like a goa track: Did not like it very much "back in goth/ebm days" of mine, but seems better than dubstep Haus Arafna was even played sometimes in "goth" clubs

So simple early EBM yet effective and catchy

This dubstep or what I have read in comments "deathstep" seems quite popular, I have seen many with Mio´s of views. Here one with 13Mio, it is better than the above example and must have been quite "loud" originally cause YT turned this 8,6db down. I mean I like some blackmetal what many would call noise, but dubstep is another kind of noise It is fun to explore sometimes these weird new styles Seems much of the work in this style is cutting wave files into small pieces and putting a ton of effects on.

Loudness album list, sorted already by "dynamic range" lowest at first, as you can see there are severall with "0" (zero) DR; http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/dr In the top 5: (careful with volume) Style? Don´t know "noise" I guess Edit, here a guitar one, it has been turned down 8,5db by YT:

Welcome to fuckin Wonderland untill you reach the Dark Waters.... need one say more ? Well over the half of these tracks are classics imho. It is also the best from this artist. The 1st one is now to "classic goa" for me and sounds thin, 2nd one way better, 3rd one also a classic but suffers from bad production, 4th one (=this) has one of the best productions - especially when it comes to the low end. And the kick is not thin like in our modern psy days (but why can not newer producers not at least try their best to come close to this work here?). This is a BASSline album too ! The 5th one I needed to re-listen but remember it did not grab me much Dark Waters has samples from "A Thin Red Line" which also shows these guys have a good taste in movies This track just does not age at all it seems ... AND when an artist can afford to end an album with "The Message" where others would put their weaker tracks I guess. But yes, the critics may be right, that some songs are a bit too long before the main part(s) arrive

Now this is interesting I wrote about this already in 2015... I was intrigued by the "History Of Goa" album, if we find here also these funny "future ducks of london" moments. I just listen to this album - it might be a sign that I had forgotten it totally - and must say this one is less funny. Whow, these cheesy speech samples are way too loud in the mix...but I kind of dig the melodies. Here is the main problem psytrance should grip you also with some harshness, darkness or unexpected moments, there is none of this here. However if we call it melodic trance / or instrumental rave in these genres it would be a good album. For latest at Track 3 I lost my patience and want to skip to the next parts of the record, to find something that screams attention. Than I am in the middle of Track 4 and more samples... buuut I stand at my rating above 4/10 or even 5. I mean there are melodies abound and it is not some random noise thrown together over the kick&basslines - like I hear in much newer "psytrance". I am now at 36Min - and now it is really getting boring - so I think some single tracks would work, but an album of the same .. naahh Edit, I really like "Super Hero" (1 Min shorter would be better tho) and "Winter Tale" is neat too.

Ok... here you go I wonder if negative comments are not allowed, or if really 90% of trance people dig this soooo much, but guess the real ones ignore it simply. I found 2 tracks quite ok, the Oforia and Etnica one, this may be cause I did not listen to these much at all the last years, so also do not remember the originals. X-Dream, Juno, Hallucinogen are butchered so to speak. Also did this guy sample or took "the future ducks of london" to his heart, I had severall moments reminding me of this at least funny parody LOL So it has some funny moments. Regardless I found this not as bad as what I wrote in my last "review" about.....?????.... it is 2 hours later and I have already forgotten the band / release name, which many ppl in the thread said is 9/10 etc. (Edit, my former review was abot "The Misted Puppets")

Was browsing reviews a bit and found this thread... is this here the album the ones saying "album of the year" or 10,9/10 are talking about: If yes, whats the deal? This is not medieval at all and not even dark or deep... but goes on the nerves with some of the used sounds. But I am also not a IM fan,so......show how different tastes are even within a "scene" or "genre" itself..but do people even know how medieval music sounds ? Certainly not like this And another poster said "another crappy fullon album" I do not know what fullon is (guess Full ON weak BEAT or FULL on DRUGS Or FULL on CHEESE?) haha Weak beat he says? Yeah, why are the kickdrums so "thin"! i noted this is in many newer stuff

I took a listen at YT cause I ignored it more or less so far, being no big fan of remixes generally. Manuser and Padmapani said already what I gathered at a quick listen through. I do not know what the purpose of this release was, when it does add almost no value to the original works? Is not Midimiliz one of the X-D guys? If that is the direction X-Dream would go if they release something new, I guess it would be a bad surprise. OTH, some of the big names deliver some good but not remarkable work, Atmos, AP, MWN..others get boring after 2 minutes like loud, sphongle. Perhaps when I listen again I will discover more ? X-D "Irritant" I also listened again.. after it seemed not so good before.. but the 2nd listen did not add much positive to my first impression, guess it is too minimal, technoid and some tracks too long for what is going on. "We Interface" corrected some of this and is better also the female vocoder voice I like (which some might hate tho) LOL Here loud, I wonder why people like this one so much, see the thumbs up ratio It is boring and 1 of the sounds is irritating:

Yes I have read that too with "stacking" 2-3 compressors or limiters. They maintain this reason afaik; each one adds some certain tone and has only light compression. This should be better than using one limiter with harder setting. Ie. better 3 different limiters with "soft" settings than 1 single with "hard" settings. No idea about that I do not use this method, I would put a limiter only on a single track when there is some element(s) with a too wide volume difference, the limiter will "contain" the spikes in the audio a bit. I learned such small thing over a long time, with less experience one would just pull the fader down, but then you also pull down what is wanted in the sound and not only the "harsh volume spikes" I do not use the lufs measure to new for me, but I would aim for a "club" track and for online (they will pull the volume down anyway) at 6-7 DR and -5 to -6 rms. For a ballad, chill out, classical etc. much lesser. Here interesting thread: "YT loudness wars": https://recording.de/threads/youtube-loudnesswar.232944/

Watch the video above, I saw a Nord (1 or 2?), 2 x something from Walddorf (1x Microwave), a 303, some "rompler" it looks like from Roland (JD/JV something?) and an EMU Morpheus ah and 2 x Oberheim something. Guess you guys can identify more... The JD800 was very good especially for pads iirc. I believe there is a rack version (990). In theory one needs only 2 good samplers.. like F242 they had the Emulators mostly. And Depeche also...they were used a lot in their tracks, more samplers than synths. Well for more moving sound like Goa, of course a real synth with many knobs is desired.

Have sent a PM !

Are you still in the mastering stuff, I have made a kind of melodic trance song (needs some tweaks still), which I would try with your mastering if still available? If you are not against a more "commercial" song LOL

For video game sounds, funny that you say this, cause last week I got a neat little free plug in named "invader". And yes, this connects to "Space Invader" (an old video game). There are more than enough older plug ins one can get - and using old stuff and not looking much at all what is out there new gear, new vst´s etc. also helps not get lost in all the new options (and get lost of rare money) one now has.

I "started" on Magix Musicmaker and a friend was making "blackmetal" with a playstation composer Then Logic 3.6 or so the first I tried with real musicmaking, there was no vst with this. Now the last Win version = 5.51. Tried back in the days, Fruity and Cubase, but straight back to Logic. Then was not making any music for ca. 6/7 years but kept all the music stuff incl. my Logic...Downloaded a week ago Reaper, which can be and tried out for free for a while, and was so confused even looking at it that I de-installed it after 30mins trying to get something with it haha.... did not want to really use it anyway but was curious how it looks/feels.

Well it is not my style too, but it would be fun to prove we can do it (read my idea above) I totally are with you that one wants to use the limited time for his own vision of sound... but maybe we can scrape up some of it. My "style" is usually darker with industrial/darkambient tones I would say. Started some kind of "doom-industrial" track even with a guitar (oops yes I do not like guitar in psy but dig it, in other metal gothrock punk styles).. listen tomorrow your other piece, good evening gents. Superwave P8 is ok for free I think not near the real thing just like synth1..

I actually USE XP (only for music of course) my old Logic (Emagic not Apple!) does not run on newer OS..I have some old Logic projects and these will not translate to newer Windows cause the format is different and some VSTs do not run on newer OS!

Ok I searched a bit, here a thread Astral gear: http://forum.vintagesynth.com/viewtopic.php?t=58134 And here a video in studio: some stuff can be seen

@recursion loop Sounds like you are pretty close to the Astral Projection feel with your example, thumbs up. Dont you have the project anymore so can make a song from the sketch? At topic: A friend many years ago had a JP8080 this was really a fat one, so I am curious to hear what you guys can reproduce, I also think it is not so easy as Mr. Imba says. But he can prove it. I have a VST (free) named Superwave which is said to be some Roland emulation but I forgot which one LOL I have a Nordrack2 safely stored away, but no good mixing desk anymore and only 1 old SE50 Effect unit. When my current tracks are hopefully finished only used software, I will setup my 2 HW synths again I guess, it is just more fun with them... and Nord has some unique sounds. Well I could also accept the challenge with the limited means (and time) I have, it would be not lost one can use it in a track.

Folks I do not know why my above Songs were not "embedded" in the post. Some confusion might happen if one searches for me! In 2018 another AQ appeared (from the US) - they make I would say synthpop/wave and I really like some of theirs... I have this name however since 2004 already LOL Proven by YT uploads and Discogs entries. Here an interview and pics with the other Alpha Quadrant, tbh. they seem nice but I do not like their latex and boots they wear http://voyagemia.com/interview/art-life-alpha-quadrant/ I have this 4th and last cover version not uploaded anywhere yet, need to find some more listeners I guess before and use it as a "free promo" song for my EP or even album in late summer / early fall (autumn). I do not make any single penny from these covers - my YT etc. nothing is monetized. I agree when people say most covers are not as good as the original but my own ones at least change the style and add something new. But my other stuff will all be OWN material. I just discovered that one of my songs at "soundclick" (which I used many years ago) reached the No. 7 in the genre charts and another one No.13...someone at Youtube liked my stuff saying it is "weird dark electronic music". I agree with this. Cheers for now.

@astralprojection Thank you very much Herr Astral from Sweden I agree with you people, that Phosycon sounds better, but I have this ABL2 in working condition on my old setup, so will go with it. It does not really sound great yes.. the delay yup I realize that. I had Rebirth 11-12 years or so ago and made some stuff with it saved as wave and imported to Logic. But the 2-3 "acid" songs gone missing. I discovered there is a download for Rebirth nowadays - it is now public domain, tried it and it works (stand alone, no VST)- Also yes a bit thin and outdated these days.