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Lightforce    60

I changed the home page, tell me if something bothers you :)

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Lightforce    60
1 hour ago, Richpa said:

Great work!

Could you please update the link for the Neogoa page. You can use our official website or Bandcamp page :)

Thanks :)

Done :)

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dhollmusik    14
On 5/5/2015 at 2:21 PM, Lightforce said:

 
Here is the link for the English version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7po6dz18w4e0rm/Psytrance%20(EN).pdf?dl=0

Fantastic work, Lightforce!  Yes, this psy-trance thing is endlessly fascinating.  So many branches, so many worlds.

I would say the Psykovsky - Ksolntsu album comes under experimental or hi-tech.  It's not very darkpsy.

Interesting how Juno Reactor come in under 3 or 4 different styles.  I wish more artists would experiment with their sound for different albums.

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Lightforce    60
On 12/6/2019 at 12:31 AM, dhollmusik said:

Fantastic work, Lightforce!  Yes, this psy-trance thing is endlessly fascinating.  So many branches, so many worlds.

I would say the Psykovsky - Ksolntsu album comes under experimental or hi-tech.  It's not very darkpsy.

Interesting how Juno Reactor come in under 3 or 4 different styles.  I wish more artists would experiment with their sound for different albums.

Thanks for these words. Your comment about Ksointsu made me listening to it again and I changed my mind, I think you're right and I moved this album in experimental :)

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thefreewave    1

I was looking through this forum and came across this thread and your pdf and i must say it makes things MUCH easier to classify the different psytrance genres than EVER before. :wub: Personally it would be nice to have the other sections (origins, more examples) with their retrospective subgenre sections but I can understand that it allows people to go through the basics first before it gets that much more complex.

I've been working on my own project for breaking down and explaining genres in chronological cd length playlists for just over 10 years and its clear this next year I should spend the time on trance and psytrance and going more in depth with them as you have illustrated and exploring the subgenres a whole lot more. Most of those lists are old and I've added onto them rather than break them apart into different lists like Hardcore and Drum & Bass. Anyway your lists are so comprehensive I may need to go through my existing ones and see what i may have missed out on.  Most of mine were based on multiple sources and posts on this forum a couple times, like with Full-On. Anyway it will be good to compare and contrast and then look into subgenres i haven't checked out yet.

I'm looking into Nitzonot this week. I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices. If you're up for feedback on improvements I'd love to help. ;):+1:Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts of that. [edit: update]

I was actually looking into Psycore when i found your thread. That still seems a little under-documented as a whole but it seems like the black sheep of the psy/hardcore families. Anyway I just wanted to first say thank you and also show what I've compiled on my side of the internet.;) Hopefully I'll be catching up on Psychedlic Trance all through 2020. Anyway glad to meet you and thanks again!

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Lightforce    60
On 12/31/2019 at 7:54 AM, thefreewave said:

I was looking through this forum and came across this thread and your pdf and i must say it makes things MUCH easier to classify the different psytrance genres than EVER before. :wub: Personally it would be nice to have the other sections (origins, more examples) with their retrospective subgenre sections but I can understand that it allows people to go through the basics first before it gets that much more complex.

I've been working on my own project for breaking down and explaining genres in chronological cd length playlists for just over 10 years and its clear this next year I should spend the time on trance and psytrance and going more in depth with them as you have illustrated and exploring the subgenres a whole lot more. Most of those lists are old and I've added onto them rather than break them apart into different lists like Hardcore and Drum & Bass. Anyway your lists are so comprehensive I may need to go through my existing ones and see what i may have missed out on.  Most of mine were based on multiple sources and posts on this forum a couple times, like with Full-On. Anyway it will be good to compare and contrast and then look into subgenres i haven't checked out yet.

I'm looking into Nitzonot this week. I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices. If you're up for feedback on improvements I'd love to help. ;):+1:Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts of that. [edit: update]

I was actually looking into Psycore when i found your thread. That still seems a little under-documented as a whole but it seems like the black sheep of the psy/hardcore families. Anyway I just wanted to first say thank you and also show what I've compiled on my side of the internet.;) Hopefully I'll be catching up on Psychedlic Trance all through 2020. Anyway glad to meet you and thanks again!

Hey, thank you for these words and nice to meet you too.
For sure, I'm always up for discussions and improving ;)

On 12/31/2019 at 7:54 AM, thefreewave said:

I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices.

That's to say? Explain me :)

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thefreewave    1

So here's the set i just compiled for https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-nitzhonot/

I kept the quotes and scores from Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts for it.  I guess the examples Zed Reactor and Space Buddha fit the style but are a bit average in comparison to some of the other options. Ideally it would be nice to have the best of the best albums under selections.

I don't know how far you've gotten into Psycore. I've got a bit of a list going but its pretty hard to separate and define it apart from Hi-Tech https://www.discogs.com/lists/Psycore/544591 It's s start....

 

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AstralSphinx    109

Sounds cool gonna download it. ^_^

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Tsotsi    152

@Lightforce I've only just started going through your website but its pretty amazing man, well done. The whole format is really cool, also i thought i was never going to enjoy hitek but 'Seven Strategy - Sampling Singularity' is just the first of a whole bunch of music that i'm about to discover. 

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Psyjafo    0

@Lightforce Hi there! I have been following your psytrance story and compilation for some years now, great work and thank you so much for it.

You seem to be very acquainted with people of the industry, both producers, artists and DJs. Yet, this past recent years I have had trouble classifying the style and sub-style of some known names in the psytrance festival scene. 
To some degree they all seem to fall under some Full on kind of substyle due to what seems a rolling bassline, yet I see many people struggling to agree on its classification.

How can you classify the recent works of artists like (in no particular order): Ajja, Tristan, Whiptongue, Jumpstreet, Fungus Funk, Burn In Noise, Avalon, Regan, Mad Tribe, Outsiders,  Sonic Species, Dickster, Braincell, Earthspace, Earthling, Electric Universe, even Astrix... etc

I know a lot of these that I mentioned sound fundamentally different from each other, but I struggle to label them. Is Fungus Funk Forest? Where do you put Ajja and Whiptongue as well? What about Earthspace and Electric Universe for example? And Tristan, is the UK Psytrance a thing?

Some of them I've heard being called, Full On Twilight, Full On Power, some Forest, some just regular Full On, some regular Psytrance.

I would love some clarification on this. Many thanks!
Peace

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Lightforce    60

@Psyjafo Hi, welcome on Psynews and thanks for your support :)

First of all, about the rolling bassline it has been popularized by Full-On but most recent Psytrance productions has a rolling bassline too so it's not peculiar to Full-On. For the classification of the artists you listed I'd say :

- Ajja is usually just Psytrance on his LPs at the exception of "Spira Mirabilis" which is somewhere between Psychedelic Downtempo and Deep Trance.
- Tristan as you said it, it's UK Psytrance and I think I will end to add it in the PDF. For this one I'd suggest you to ask to @Ormion, he's a better connoisseur than me on this sub-style.
- Whiptongue, from what I can hear by now on his EP ("Oscillate") I'd say UK Psytrance too.
- Jumpstreet I'd say Hi-Tech, but a slower kind of Hi-Tech compared to what we can hear most of the time in Hi-Tech.
- Fungus Funk from his last EP, "Fractal Funk", seems to has kept a part of his "proto-Hi-Techish" Darkpsy sound on leads and FX but, not surprisignly (this EP was released on Sangoma and Timecode records after all ), has a Twilight bassline on the 2 first tracks.
- Burn in Noise, from his last album ("We Stand"), it depends on the tracks, but there's blends between these sub-styles : sometimes it's UK Psyrance, sometimes a kind of slower Hi-Tech, sometimes Full-On, and some other Progressive Psytrance and even Psychedelic Downtempo/Deep Trance.
- Avalon, from his last album ("Rise"), it's UK Psytrance most of the time but sometimes there's blends with Full-On.
- Regan just made compilations so it woud be too long to classify each tracks from different artists.
- Mad Tribe on "Superstar" : a kind of "Full-Onish" UK Psytrance.
- Outsiders on "Be As You Are" : most of the time Full-On. UK Psytrance, Progressive Psytrance or Psychedelic Downtempo on some tracks with featurings.
- Sonic Species on "Tokyo Sunrise (Transient Disorder Remix)" : "Full-Onish" UK Psytrance too.
- Dickster (when he's alone) on "Inebriatti" : UK Psytrance.
- Braincell used to be Full-On back in the days (Transformation Of Reality :wub:), now he's UK Psytrance with some hints of Full-On on his last album, "Gaia".
- Earthspace on "Machines Reflecting Love EP" : UK Psytrance.
- Earthling on "Radio Gaia" sometimes Full-On, sometimes UK Psytrance.
- Electric Universe on "Lakshmi" like on his last LP "Journeys Into Outer Space" : Full-On.
- Astrix on "He.Art" : "Full-Onish" Progressive Psytrance.

I might be wrong but I think there's nothing Forest in the artists you listed ^_^

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AstralSphinx    109

Can someone point me to some essential Twillight music? Which really has defined the style. I wanna know how the bassline sounds etc. I don't think I've heard this style yet. Perhaps somewhat on Psysex-2020 album? Because I remember thinking it had some "Dark Psy" elements, but was told it was Twillight elements or something to that effect. I'm a bit out of the loop nowadays with regards to todays Psy Trance scene/Subgenres, I did listen more to Psy/Dark Psy/Prog and some South African psy etc around 2008 or so.

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Ormion    434
3 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:

Can someone point me to some essential Twillight music? Which really has defined the style. I wanna know how the bassline sounds etc. I don't think I've heard this style yet. Perhaps somewhat on Psysex-2020 album? Because I remember thinking it had some "Dark Psy" elements, but was told it was Twillight elements or something to that effect. I'm a bit out of the loop nowadays with regards to todays Psy Trance scene/Subgenres, I did listen more to Psy/Dark Psy/Prog and some South African psy etc around 2008 or so.

Azax Syndrom, Khopat, Sidhartha, Tryambaka, Phatmatix, Seroxat, Killer Buds. All of them are classic examples of Twilight.

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AstralSphinx    109
6 minutes ago, Ormion said:

Azax Syndrom, Khopat, Sidhartha, Tryambaka, Phatmatix, Seroxat, Killer Buds. All of them are classic examples of Twilight.

Thanks much appreciated! :+1:

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AstralSphinx    109

So I went to an outdoors party tonight, and I'm a bit perplexed with regards to the styles they played. Is this Twillight or Dark-Psy? Or are the two terms interchangeable?

 https://streamable.com/vf6xxp

https://streamable.com/lcqin

Track-ID if possible :)

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Ormion    434
4 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:

So I went to an outdoors party tonight, and I'm a bit perplexed with regards to the styles they played. Is this Twillight or Dark-Psy? Or are the two terms interchangeable?

 https://streamable.com/vf6xxp

https://streamable.com/lcqin

Track-ID if possible :)

That sounds like UK Psytrance. But UK Psytrance is already somewhere between twilight and darkpsy so I wouldn't sweat too much about it.

I made a YouTube playlist couple of years ago, I hope it helps.

 

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