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Just realised the link to the interview in my initial post doesn't seem to work...here's the right one: http://www.spacesynth.net/interview/huibschippers... anyhow, just here to answer the question "who are we". It seems the interviewee was not only talking about himself but also his generation of electronic musicians and their endeavor to reach "hardness and coldness" with electronic sounds, "but always in vain" (quoting here), since, I assume, technology didn't allow that just yet. I felt this idea strongly connected with my own opinion about electronic music and the main reason I fell in love with it, i.e. the "cold" touch rather than the "warmth" of acoustic music. That's all. For the rest I definetely agree with your points of view and all the other arguments/ ideas that have been expressed in this topic so far

See topic title. This is, in my humble opinion, one of the more peculiar arguments 90ies lovers always bring up with regards to electronic music. I think nobody explained it better than Huib Schippers aka Trilithon, although he was talking about it in the context of 80ies synth music versus contemporary 'newschool' synth music, however the discussion boils down to the exact same thing. "Q: Some people thinks that the music of today doesn't have the same warm feeling as in the 80's, because of the software synths and that the musicians are using too much compression which makes it sound quite cold and hard. What do you think about the result ? A: Cold and warm is just a matter of harmonic content of a sound over time. Making things sound “warm” has always been the realm of uncontrolled processes. We have had a very hard time to finally get to the point that we could control every aspect of a sound over time and now we are longing for the uncontrolled factor in a sound again. I would say it would be wise not to hand over the control to processes that can’t be influenced. Instead I would create “warmness” by generating variations of the parameters you would like to be influenced. Cold and hard is what technology has finally achieved. Why regard it as something that is unwanted. It is the summit of exactness and thereby a statement in itself. A statement we could never make in the 80’s however hard we tried! Hardness and coldness is what we were looking for in the 80’s, but always in vain. What word does not fit in? Space - Technology – Science – Hard – Robotics – Synthetic – Artificial – Warm. I think I know the answer to that one ." (full interview: http://www.spacesynth.net/Interview/HuibSchippers) I put the essential lines in bold, 'cause that is exactly explaining my feeling about it all. I was primarily fascinated by electronic music because it was hard, artificial, alienating, spacey and totally devoid of anything "human" (and I suppose that was actually exactly the point of a lot of electronic music makers, also in the 80ies and 90ies). Therefore, it's actually surprising to see how quite some people nowadays are trying to reach the exact opposite of that by emphasizing how 90ies goa is much 'warmer', how the analog machines had their little flaws which caused unpredictable sound output etc. etc. and which ultimately puts the "human aspect" back in the music, so to speak. But wasn't that what we were trying to get rid off?

Excellent track!

Suppose this scene was huuuuge and each release would gather at least 2000-5000 rates, the impact of a label rating its own releases wouldn't influence the score so much. My opinion: rating your own music = not done. All the rest is OK or OK-ish.

You never know thou ... anyhow, since you sent first, you'd get priority of course. Fair is fair!

I also sent a PM...regarding two CD's. Would be great if u could reserve them as well...

I had a good laugh :P

Yes. Has his old trademark sound all over it imo. I'd say everything before the third album should be considered as his 'old' stuff.

Guys, guys! I'd like to refer to my own little discogs list, where I put a little description of the so-called genre... https://www.discogs.com/lists/Releases-With-NitzhonotUpliftingNitzhogoa-Tracks/20797?page=7

PS: about Hatikva. I'm also after this one! Consider that a challenge

Why the big search? It has been available for over 8 years on the same spot as always. Enjoy! For Credit Card buyers : http://Kunaki.com/Sales.asp?PID=PX00WF5KKD For Paypal Buyers : http://Kunaki.com/Sales.asp?PID=PX00WF5KKD&PP=1

Minimum: €6,919.40 Median: €12,132.61 Maximum: €20,270.50 Take in account that my collection is "relatively" small (under 900 CD's)

Really liked this! Thanks OP for making me discover this!

On a sidenote I want to add here that a terrible lot of people tend to mess up "mixing" with "mastering", e.g. when reviewing/discussing music. Separate the two, people, they're not the same! Edit: I see Recursion Loop already referred to this, so, nuff said!

Same here

Yalon Adot aka Syntezia (https://www.discogs.com/artist/1283984-Yalon-Adot). The guy ran a Nitzhonot label in the late 90ies called Planet Music (which released Sonichaos and some other goodies). Yalon was also the man behind the first two Space Buddha albums. From the third album and on it was Indica taking care of the Space Buddha name (Eliad Grundland). For the rest, there's no particular story attached to this album (afaik). Zohar Argov was/is big in Mizrahi circles in Israel (eastern-flavoured kind of popmusic). Nitzhonot draws a lot of inspiration from eastern-flavoured genres. Thus, Nitzhonot artists pay tribute to Zohar Argov. End of story

Considered a national hero of the Mizrahi music style in Israel, even (to a certain amount) respected by the non-Mizrahi music lovers over there. Aside from the ones mentioned above, there's other Nitzhonot tributes to Zohar Argov:

http://musicmap.info/# Doesn't look bad at all, on first sight.

That's the size of the festival. It's small. But it's great (and probably will be a tad bigger this year due to the positive reception of last year + bigger line-up).

It WAS actually pretty creative at the time, paving the way for an insane amount of clones and lookalike tracks. Also since when is lenght a criterium for quality? Shortmovies, shortstories, etc. can be amazing. Why not short tracks? Another thing, danceability is clearly 100% subjective and the majority of electronic music listeners disagrees with your point of view. So who are we to tell 'em the'yre wrong? What's the point? Yes, you catch my drift, I don't agree with the way Goa is being put on a pedestal in contrast to (no matter what kind of) other (electronic) music styles. Every kind of music has its story, every kind of style has good and bad examples. Every kind of style also has its fair share of avid fanboys screaming their music is the best. Live and let live...that's what I say. Don't try to figure out why it's less popular than you'd like. There's no point. :3 <3

Please listen Holymen - Last Universe (Nitzhonot) and compare it to something like Goalien - Agressor (Nitzhogoa). That should make the distinguishment clear. Difference is huge on all levels.

Got their first album from the infamous eiko/bwhale/whatever user. All I had to do was send him some EAC rips of CD's I had laying around. That was a good day...

All this and no Shamu?? Shame!

Just too many... I could go on for days, these are just a few of my personal classics... but there's also heaps of good contemporary artists! Aly & Fila ftw!

+1 on all of that. Love the cover, much better than all that fractal/abstract stuff out there