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I am really cool about IM and the guys having success. No one forces me to listen to it AND... Britney Psy is already there, plus Eminem, Nickelback and Billie EIlish "Psy"... also I noted that titles sorted in psytrance at youtube have up to 10 Mio plays ! I never heard of these artists tho. I can give a link to above tomorrow. Seems "psytrance" is now quite fashionable (if the uploaders/channels did not abuse the terms for whatever reason?). Luckily for me neither IM nor above is competition for my music project - but it is just to much music in general nowadays out there, one goes under in the mass anyways.

More "expanded"... I do not listen so much to eg. 80ties wave/pop anymore cause it gets boring over time, same with Metallica/Slayer or "Gothic" or "EBM" (I still like this style very much tho but there is not much new stuff worthy to listen I only noted the last F.L.A. for being cool) ......like years ago..also really true oldschool goa (I mean the minimal 303ish stuff) not much anymore I added more "progressive" styles in Trance and TripHop ala Massive Attack... plus some modern pop like Lorde or Lana Del Ray aahh and esp. M.I.A. (the one from Ceylon?) Also more black metal then 10 years ago

My bad, but....no......... and WHO the F is Dana International ? OK.....(not the best voice even Britney sounds better on her early trve stuff LOL)

Haha, the 2 x CD History Of Trance Part3 was also my 1st (Original) psy/goa release I bought... I had heard before stuff from party goers which I knew back then, I got tapes from them with Prana, E.Universe, Juno Reactor etc.

Ok here one that might be a bit OT it has not much psytrance and is with female vocals. But still very cool... but seems cure fans do not appreciate the change.. as it is the only one I have with more thumbs down. If you like and have a YT please thumbs up. THANKS!! The 2nd oldest piece from 12-13 yrs ago or so... Btw. will make an album timed for late Sept. / Oct 2020.. I am sure fans of (older) psytrance with many other elements as techno, industrial, electro, ambient.. should like this. So I would be very thankful if you like the stuff, spread the word / sub / like / subscribe Ah and this will be of course my own material these covers are more or less for fun projects but might serve as free bonus tracks.

Hi folks, I am back after long time, I also restarted some "music making" now with more psy/goa elements my earliert ones were more dark ambient/industrial/electro... I selected 4 x 80ties songs that in original are not 100% electronic, but my covers are. Will post each one in this thread every week and then show my own creations too So here the earliest one: Taken from "Songs From Fans With Devotion" (Lim CD issue 500 copies) - Note, "Barrel Of A Gun" under the name "Split Effect", but it should be "Alpha Quadrant" this was my 1st "solo" track but had no new bandname.

Sounds more like Electro than HipHop ? I do not like hip hop so why would Ilike MIA if it were HIP HOP `?? eg M.I.A. - "Bad Girls" (Official Video) M.I.A. PAPER PLANES official video Also looks like the track might have references to 9/11 (it were paper planes kind of right?), also of you look closely she seems to wear a Metallica shirt in 2 sequences (ride the lighning)? Seems to support that this is not run-of the mill stuff also from the content not only musically...

I really do not like House (maybe except some very early stuff), the term electro was as I said for electro-indus or ebm like 242 and FLA etc. Ya know the a bit "goth like" people, even if the music was quite different from the 2 scenes. As I said house was for sure not that I would refer as electro LOL (But I am spitting hairs I know excpecting a younger than 35 or so aged girl to like such music was a bit blue eyed, so it turned out their "electro" was some indi style with perhaps a few keys (why they called that electro no idea, seems more like emo-rock LOL)

Anyone went to Die Grube back in the days ? There I heard first "progressive" it was announced as goa. I did not like it first - but later discovered some stuff is good...

Kraftwerk (and perhaps DAF):

German girls might be the worst choice to speak about music and styles.... I tried to but they name styles totally different and do not know bands. Remember the dark clothed one ca. 25 in a clinic I said I listen "Electro" (as EBM,Indus was among my faves along with psy and metal). We tended to say Electro for EBM all the way in the scene. Do you like Front242 ? Never heard of that. But they are one of the Top 3 famous bands. Turned out with "electro" she meant some lame indie-emo shit

Tbh I like Lady Gagas early Piano music more than this

BTW: Pretty good, interesting interview with Bill

First of, I feel with you. Also with the animals in this thread. I also had 2-3 experiences in this regard... Can you perhaps tell me what band it was and in which city ?

Pls. start. I think its a hoax... alien propaganda... like UFOs etc.

Neither Meshuggah nor COB are my cup of tea... both sound to "plastic" to me. However 3-4 MH albums are really cool. The Blackening + Burn My Eyes come to mind first.

We can make a case in regards to psy with all its symbolism. This case however would be only a strong one, if many more artists would make it "big": Almost no one know psy or goa anyway. It was shocking to see that so many ppl. think this pathetic band "eagles of death metal" would ply death metal. They do not even play metal. That shows even a style pretty popular (DM) is not recognized by most "normal" people. How would it be psy ? We can only look in the most famous band(s) if they have satanic/illuminati symbolism. Cause only these would make an impact. And it must be signed by a big label. Most popular would be Infected, right ? So one could examine them. BTW: Their (eodm) popularity and sales rose like a rocket after the Paris event - which was most likely another "false flag"

FLA have some instrumentals, even techno + goa mixes... Ah and check PRO TECH, which is basically another sideproject from Bill I believe but pretty unknown. It has simmilar sounds to FLA but more techy and no vox.... I probably can find 10 more tracks, which would fit. But not complete band names tbh. I mean complete albums eg. of this style are quite rare. You can find however albums with instrumental EBM/Indus tracks but they do not have the FLA touch of course. If ur looking for the FLA sound. Also I would like that you give FEEDBACK on the suggestions given. I am always at a loss when ppl. ask for music, ppl. provide it but they dissapear without saying what & why they liked or hated the suggestions

Thanks for "7" Ollie, I also rate your track a 7. First off I heard several Darshan, but somehow their style could not convince me like some others. Also I am a bit tired of 303 meanwhile. Even if is is not used so blatantly than others here @ Manuser: For you track almost the same goes like said above. However I also would say its a bit too long for my taste (for this style).. I give it a 6.5 therefore Next one:

LOL I checked some stuff from the 90ties out, ans seems I missed 3 or 4 releases, among them Sandman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySPrgigICg This sounds like instrumental EBM

Of course cool track, 8/10 I think 3 or 4 are even better. Soemthing which should fit the more darker mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8-cr9-gLIM

Even bands/labels post their their stuff to YT, so it seems quite a legitimate source nowadays. And most of the YT stuff has copyright, but it seems labels/artists are actually (in most cases) fine that their stuff is on there. Otherwise most of it would be taken down long ago. This is because YT/Google has a kind of monopoly in this market. But this is not only the case here, in any music forum YT links are number 1, with almost nothing coming in the 2nd place. I am fine with that eg. Soundcloud links sometimes will not play and some other issus (they seem to use more pc resouces than YT for some reason): But I agree a page with lots of YT videos may be annoying. The solution is easy tho, disable flash and/or java (cant remember which one maybe both) Their are browser plugs which can do this eg.

This was my impression too.... I would like to make a compilation from them. We can find some good tracks on their other albums too. But sadly they have not the consistent (musical) quality like Genesis has. However the mastering of Genesis will not fit in with the other tracks. If I had the raw audio tracks without any master applied I could master it myself and get a better result (I did this already with an old EBM track and it worked it sounds much better than the original imo).. some of noise, mud... could be filtered I guess. However it would lose some information in these frequency ranges.

Yes, me too. There is a fine live however when I would call it overproduced (the word here is loudnss race).... In case of certain metal, rock productions a "muddy" production may contribute to the athmosphere (mostly death,black or psychedelic rock). However when I compare eg. Mayhems early "productions" (and also 1 or 2 of the later ones which have also bad production maybe because they want to sound" trve" than I prefer still the better production of "DMDS" or "Wolfs Lair Abyss".....and in electronic this would be more so the case. As long it isnt too "loud" and clips.

Butttttt.........if it is "TRUE" live than the mastering on the CD has no impact ? Or are you saying they play the CDs on their live sets? LOL