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Fullon vs others and what subgenre is the face of psy
mars replied to Raferi's topic in General Psytrance
Well said Earwall and Acid Brain! Well, back in 2002, when FullOn surfaced, I was coming from the Goa times, where, indeed there were no rules and crazy buildups and melodies. I thought FullOn was way too empty.You know, that typical structure: boom boom 3minutes, uplifting break 1 minute, boom boom 3 minutes. No surpises, no dreams, only pure energy. It was sometimes pleasant for a short while at the end of a party of in a festival afternoon, but I went to some parties where it was 12 hours in a row in a crowded place! And it lasted until 2011 or so. Almost 10 years of FullOn, and it was only getting worse: ultrastereotyped stucture, the fattest kick+bass possible, and even some lyrics. Only a few artists managed, in my opinion, to tell a story in their tracks: Xerox & Illumination, Optokopler, The Misted Muppet, Silicon Sound, Sulima, and to some extent Chemical Drive and CPU... all the rest was the same receipe over and over again. Imo the worst was Eskimo, the Everest of what Acid Brain describes! Now I can understand that someone with a different music background may like it. -
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Feeling like filling a review ?
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Richpa, FB owes you an answer, so you have to insist. Play it straight: "ok something was maybe wrong, but i dont know what, so if you want me to avoid doing the same mistake again, please tell me exactly what content was wrong".
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I found a gmail address and LinkedIn connection so far.
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Hi It's very important: I'm looking for a way to contact the guys that used to run Saikosounds. Rob for example. I had the phone of their office but I doubt it still works since they're bankrupt. So I'd like a personal phone number or email. Anyone ? Thanks to PM me if you have such info.
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For you, for whatever reason. Whats the "national anthem" of Psytrance?
mars replied to psytones's topic in General Psytrance
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Ethereal - Anima Mundi http://www.discogs.com/Ethereal-Anima-Mundi/master/379937 It's one of the spaciest albums ever! Chi A.D music http://www.discogs.com/artist/12977-Chi-AD Khetzal - Corolle http://www.discogs.com/Khetzal-Corolle/master/231050
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I don't either, and I've been to countless parties in the past 20 years. It's no secret I tried hallucinogens back in 2002, and tried again in a festival in 2009. Had wonderful experiences that gave a lot of food for thought. But nothing since that, neither before nor inbetween, not even a joint. I have a kid, a serious work in which I need to be focussed, and If the music is good you've got to take off without any "help".
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In the beginning she says promoters work with dealers so the drugs are "distributes" at the right moment... pure nonsense (or if it happens it's in parties I don't go to, and I've been to many). Then she confesses of course that she took a lot of drugs including LSD and she experienced all sorts of trips. Then she shifts to elves and magicians and other lifeforms and and the way to understand things through vortexes and telepathy! And of course it ends with the famous segregation between "those who know" and "the others", that basically normal people are disconnected from "the truth", jailed in their ego, that we'll never know what is true or not, etc... Diagnosis: WAY too much LSD. Well, I experienced all she experienced, and asked myself countless questions in the end. But that was an experiment. In her case she takes acid every week-end apparently. So basically her brain is fried and she cannot tell apart anymore what's inside from what's outside the trip, it's a form of schizophrenia. She may tell anything about other forms of life, no problem for me; but the way she connects eveything with drugs and, the way she sees the scene is obnoxious and I totally disapprove. I'm happy I'm not paying taxes in France anymore, cause that way I won't pay for her probable invalidity and unemployment.
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Many believe FullOn was invented by Absolum and his "Colors" tracks (Indigo, Metalizer, Caramel, etc) back in 98. Many others believe GMS invented FullOn, and that would be in 99 with the album GMS vs Systembusters. Clearly back 2000-2001 in Paris, you could hear the sound "fullonizing" with, indeed, Talamasca, Nomad, Silicon Sound, Neuromotor, Psyside, etc. But the big wave came from Israel in 2002 with Alien Project (or whoever made his tracks), Atomic Pulse, Astrix, Safi Connection, plus others like GMS, Soundaholix, D-Tek, Polaris, Altöm, etc...
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Here: https://web.archive.org/web/20021209033140/http://goatrance.free.fr/index2.htm
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On January 11th 2000, exactly 14 years ago, a guy from Paris, "Children", started goatrance.free.fr as a replacement for the defunct TRiP UK site. It later became Psynews.org and is still alive today thanks to you The full story here.
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Hmmm I think Goa was already known to Electronic music freaks at least one year earlier, in 1994. There's Har El, Cosmic Baby, Moog releases and the VA Hypnotic Trance 1, Psy-Harmonics Vol.1, and the first Trust In Trance compilation in 1994. Then the more you go back in time, the least you can tell if it's Trance or Goatrance: Juno Reactor - Transmissions or the Dragonfly compilation Project II Trance are both from 1993. The first Infinity Project EP is from 1992. There's an Electrotete EP and The Overlords' Sundown (one of the very first Goa tracks ever) in 1991. You can find MWNN EPs in 1990 but they are clearly Trance, not Goatrance !!!
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This question has been asked before but it would be interesting to know from new members. For me it was the track "Hallucinogen - LSD" and the album "Hallucinogen - Twisted". I litterally fell on my knees and listened to it in a loop for months! It still blows my mind now. My testimony: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php/topic/30650-10-years-ago/ Damn that was 18 years ago, I didn't even have a degree, and now I have a kid that keeps saying "stop that music!" ahahah
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Shift albums (almost all of them but especially "Excession" and "Byte Me") Twisted System albums (especially "The Dealers") Pitch Hikers albums (especially "Sting") Deliriant's first album The Midnight Storm series (3 and 4 are just brillant) They are not from ZA, but the style is similar, please also check: Wizack Twizack "Space No More" and "Dead End" Art of Existence EP Scorb "Ipso Fvcto" Trold "Time for..." albums Derango
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Trold - Time for Solution Filteria - Lost in the Wild
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Filteria - Lost in the Wild Cosmic Dimension - In a Special Kind of Space Nebula Meltdown - Stardust Chronicles Ovnimoon - Trancemutation of the Mind VA - The Call of Goa Mindwave - Insight Trinodia - Astral Clouds Lyctum - Vibrations of Life Loopstep - Coded Patterns Shpongle - Museum of Consciousness Akshan - The Rise of Atlantis Miktek - Elsewhere Static Movement - Circle of Life Trold - Time for Solution Crop Circles - Full Mental Jackpot CDS Crop Circles - Lunar Civilzation CDS Dimension 5 - Trans Addendum Dimension 5 - Trans Stellar
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Big mistake from me, sorry. Actually I thought some recent TIPWorld EPs were on Vinyl, given the look of the covers http://www.tiprecords.com/promo/feeling_weird/ http://www.tiprecords.com/promo/1200mics/ http://www.tiprecords.com/promo/ooze/ but they were only digital, as Discogs says. My mistake.
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Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_culture There is a § dedicated to the 21st century rise of audio K7. Theres is indeed some kind of hype related to amateur production, self distribution, as well as ultra creative sleeve design. @Padmapani: I can't split easily between genres, most is tagged "psychedelic" no matter whetehr it is prog or dark...I'm not feeling like flash-listening to 2185 releases today to count myself
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I will try to get subgenres %, but it might take a while to compute. Yeah FullOn has faded already a couple of years ago. Seriously there are lots of tape releases. Audio-cassettes! For real. They've returned in force in the past 3 years! http://www.discogs.com/search/?type=release&title=&credit=&artist=&genre=Electronic&label=&style=Ambient&track=&country=&catno=&year=2013&barcode=&submitter=&anv=&contributor=&format=Cassette
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Like last year a few stats over the Psytrance production. The only way to get these stats is to either rely on discogs, or count pirate mp3 groups pre's and add free netreleases (Ektoplazm, etc). Probably some are missing as (for example), I don't count applicable SoundShiva.net releases... Don't shoot me, that's only for informational purposes, I was doing it 12 years ago already, when the production was 10% of what it is today, and counting these nowadays is really hard. We could go much further, by splitting by genre etc, but unless you ask for it, let's keep it simple. Reminder: in 2012 there were: - 1095 albums/compilations in CD, LP, Tape and digital format - 908 EPs (99.8% of which were digital) = 2003 releases in total. Now, in 2013, so far we saw: - 979 albums/compilations in CD, LP, Tape and digital format - 1206 EPs (only 2 or 3 uptempo ones were actual vinyls...hi TIP World!) = 2185 releases in total. That is 15374 tracks, 255 GB of hi-quality mp3s, or 80 days of continuous music !!!! So we can see (similarly as between 2011 and 2012), a decrease in the number of full length albums/compils and an increase of EPs (1 to 6 tracks, less than 1 hour long), and an overall increase in the number of releases. Amongst the trends, I noticed: A major part of the releases are either Progressive or Darkpsy, the latter decreasing fast now. A LOT of the Progressive ones sound all the same, like Neelix (offbeat, etc), especially as this is the speciality of several very productive labels such as Spintwist, or "compilation-recyclers" such as YSE or Geomagnetic. (Neo)Goa, FullOn and Minimal remain marginal. Ambient/Drone/IDM/Darkambient account for a significant part of the releases, and they come from a huge nebula of very small labels or self-releases. BTW 100% of Tape releases are Ambient ones. If you have questions or require details over some styles or formats, just ask.
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better not... Pretty rare comp btw.
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Check these two: Optokoppler - Bugfix: http://www.discogs.com/Optokoppler-Bugfix/release/727770 The Misted Muppet - From The Legend: http://www.discogs.com/Misted-Muppet-From-The-Legend/release/292330 I don't think it has a specific name, we could say it's "melodic psytrance". If you like craziness, you can get the latest Filteria album too: Lost in the Wild: http://www.discogs.com/Filteria-Lost-In-The-Wild/release/5044853
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Salut, I agree, they were good. I prefer the album to the LIVE, but the latter is very strong too! What happened? I'm not sure. Life probably: kids, work, etc... Though, one of them, Henrik Munch, seemed to be active until 2010 in more experimental genres: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Henrik+Munch#p=3&t=Credits_All