Aeros

I was wondering about that Colin, I really thought it was a new Oood track too

Some advice to those who choose to do the critical work of labels in the scene.... everyone starts out somewhere, it is the same in the artist world. The only way to be successful is to forget about it and just do it out of love and because it is fun for you, then simply by virtue of time you will be out there. Suntrip has its reputation for a reason, for being fans since the very beginning and for themselves putting 5 years work into it thus far, and probably giving you the idea to try a label as well. At the same time there are people (many) who are extremely happy with the releases. Its great to hear goa other than the suntrip records flavor, by all means keep releasing music I really wish this was possible for all music, its the digital age... I guess from a DJ perspective i end up ripping wav and burning onto new CDs anyway, would be great to just get the .wav of the tracks I want for $1 a track instead of 12+ 7for shipping +euro to dollar conversion BS = $24 and 3 weeks before I get a CD Huge difference between mp3 (even 320 vbr) and wav for a DJ, so these will be sought after, suntrip If you play mp3s the hi-end is in low resolution and is very bad for people's ears, you've all heard it, feels like its scratching your brain. wave and lossless quality does not do this and instead just sounds epic.

This is analytical overload. By far the best advice is to just start a new track my honest opinion is that this one is nothing special and is extremely repetitive. Tracks do not respond well to over-revision since you lose the flow and the original vibes. When in doubt, new track. But atleast try and pick up older tracks, I know too many people with 100 1 minute tracks who think they can make music. Don't get stuck in that phase too. Besides technical wizardry you are also a composer and orchestrator of a story.

I don't understand, hmm.... you don't make music, music makes you. friendly reminder. . you'll be at it again, just quit thinking about music so much and let it just happen and go wherever. Clearly you have an audience. I play you're tracks at parties, particularly the ones on cronomi. Theres this topic and lots of people into your tracks, theres more than can be said for a lot of other people putting out music. But anyway I think we are all speculating since no one really knows whats up but is appreciative anyway. But you can PM me or something with your ponderings, i'll lend an ear (two), exterior persperctive always helps any situation

I submit to you my best, most definitive "this is goa trance" goa trance mix No old is golding here, my focus was not on any kind of oldschool goa sound, but rather the new! Excited to hear goa make it to the next decade, I wonder what it would sound like! Here goes! ---------------Little Golden Ball Summer Solstice 2009 goa mix ----------2:06:12 136-150bpm http://www.sendspace.com/file/0lfnz5 Streamed on DI.fm june 21st as part of their solstice event with 36 hours of all new mixes from DJs all around, with about half of it being some rocking propper goa trance. Something is in the air I tell you Filteria, Goasia, and Jikooha played sets, as well as lots of new goa djs.

Here is a link to mine in 320 vbr studio quality ---------------Little Golden Ball Summer Solstice 2009 goa mix ----------2:06:12 136-150bpm http://www.sendspace.com/file/0lfnz5 Very different kind of goa set, top of the cake stuff.

Highly awesome music all day long, I've been ripping it My special summer solstice aerosis mix starts in about an hour, its the best one. :posford:

Plugging this since its too cool for any of you to miss it. Tune in Its like a festival on the psy/goa channel! http://www.di.fm/calendar/event.php?event=14528 http://www.di.fm/mp3/goapsy.pls

Ormion is right, no matter how happy you are with your track, do not render it and listen to an mp3. Do not listen to it unless in the studio environment. The reason is you'll begin memorizing how it all sounds and will instantly forget where you wanted it to to go, or otherwise color the original session you started with. When composing, you should be looping sections of your track, every 8 or 16 bars or 32 bars or so, and filling in a new layer from beginning to end, then continueing with another loop section but changing or adding elements. Soon you'll logically end up with 2 or 3 breakdowns, and then its time for the outtro. the key word is: creative destruction Theres your whole shiva mentality. If you are stuck and don't know what to do, thats what you do. Advice about your track: Yes just start a new one, bearing in mind what you did (or didn't do) to make this current track repetitive, and attempting to not do that again, or to try something different. Your latest track is always better in some way from your previous compositions. Your track is repetitive because your percussion is repetitive. You are having trouble composing new melodies because your bass is repetitive and rigid, due to the percussions also being rigid and minimally designed. THe change in key around the middle of the track was cool and cool how you keep it up, but after 6 minutes of listening to the same melody and rythm, most people listening to this will be burned out. Your melody composition is good, melodically you can tell stories. Now you just have to do that with the bass, fx, fx processing, automation, percussion, and everything else. Synthwork - needs some help but its okay i know you are learning still. But play with some better vsti's, they'll inspire you. - hope some of that can help very honest advice.

is it way oldschool? look for a rom + emulator combo you could just mine it yourself if no one has. Other then arduous searchers, theres nothing i know to recommend to you . Post your results though

If it helps, it helps to know that you can't force music to happen, you'll ruin your tracks. Music is just a fealing, and its about capturing it via total openness. Theres no greater form of channeling than the state of mind of a musician. Openness. = solved your motivation problems. Also its cool to not make music for like a month and just live, then you always rebound into it. You'll be able to tell, you won't be able to resist just jamming and laying out sounds. Also, hang out with music people. Veracor put up your track, I want to hear and could tell you how done you are or not. Seriously 90% of people are way too modest and perfectionist about sharing their music. It is a pity we have lost them forever to time, and they didn't get to share their creations.

Drosophilia, freaking awesome links!! Drum and Bass dub over was epic stuff

To catch up with you on that, no not at all really. Well, I guess I would say the finesse is in how you adapt and flow the bassline in your track. I for example can make basslines, so midi would infact take longer for me to do. But these things are wonderful for transfering and translating work, the first step in a propper remix or collaboration really. Just I guess not any real use to anyone who can make music. Just promise you guys will make cool basslines out of them and not use the same one for 9 minutes and think you can get away with being minimal. kbbb kbbb kbbb kbbb. No more Theres like a 18 page topic at isratrance titled "kill full-on forever" so lets get on that. If however, you're screwing around and just want to learn this stuff, by all means grab as much midi data as you can, this won't be bad advice

you can import them into your sequencer of choice as notes, this is how scores are exchanged

Secret to any kick is pitchbending to highlight the right frequency or envelope, and then EQing... subtractive vs additive (take away freqs you don't want highlighted THEN raise overall volume) Besides that, find the right sample. Some of the oldest goa kicks, the super pew pew pew ones were 808 samples heavily tweaked. You can do that yourself or just find samples by which enough now exist, and then tweak it to your liking to give it personality and make it sit better in your track. You want the dominant frequency (loudest) in the kick to reflect the dominant frequency in your bassline.

Nice time paradox catch, penzoline I know its old but this quote: I could not disagree more, this is one of the few tracks I would give an A+ for totally hands down balls to the wall original style. The track is about freaking UFOs burning fractal crop circles in fields. It almost sounds like dubstep, but you realize its not even close to that either. Just had to mention it is atleast one of my favorite tracks, if not top few that always work on me. Such a cool bass set to landscapes of some of the best Fx processing....from 1997/1998. A total story of a track without getting lazy into just a whirlwind of melodies. Very funky track. Crop Circles - Cerealogy love how it just dives into itself

Total Eclipse! What the hell why is no one talking about this, this is seriously the best goa trance ever, and made before there was any other goa trance... Delta Aquarids 1995 Violent Relaxation 1996

and here is a better website for you to upload your music to www.beatbiz.net

+ Ra uses FL as a rewire setup on protools Theres plenty more, I just haven't asked them personally. So chill out about all that. Its really cool too because it means we can remix and collaborate with eachother with ease! Its the funnest...

We're young yes, we also have this impossible standard of being compared to all the best music from 10 years ago...so i'm with you on that This is why I'm always more interested in people just flowing and making music they like rather than old is golding. Having been doing this for a while now, I really don't think any hardware or software has anything to do with someone's skill as a producer, I'm not sure why people love to discuss this so much. The whole FL stigma has to do that its the cheapest DAW out there, very quick to learn, and most people start off learning it. Cubase, Logic etc can be so overwhelming that these newbies never even get around to finishing a track, so as a result you get more newbie things produced with FL out there. Sound quality is a decent blend of how much you know what you're doing, coupled with how high quality the sound system you working with... the clearer you can hear things the finer you can tune them, since if you can't hear right how can you mix down right? The number one thing that will make you sound better is not what software you use but what you are using to playback your work. Worse sound quality comming from FL vs Cubase? Another stupid arguement. Hardware better than software? +1...has anyone dealt with a real studio full of wires, interference, and an inescapable -30db buzz/hum from all the lines... You spend more time loosing your patches on the synths and not knowing what fucked up than you do working on a track. Why do I stick with FL? The interface is very comfortable and very quick for tweaking large amounts of notes and automation which is so intensive in goa. Why do people who don't deal with this stuff feel like they have such strong opinions about it, get over it, its 2009, we've got really really cool software and people are gonna use it because it doesn't cost $1500 like a virus TI or something bwhale...your track is pretty epic, but NHJO uses cubase, and about 70 hard synths, so imo...YOU SUCK :wank:

This rocks! Can I get a high quality mp3 for DJ sets? PM or email me Full on energy but goa vibe. Advice: Send to cronomi records, mike might dig this. and keep making tracks.

I'm split between sky input and daze of our lives Equally innovative albums. Which would I prefer on a dancefloor? half sky input half daze.

We're taking the time to make the album really stand out, to the point of redoing maybe half of it or more... suntrip has put out so much good music lately that this is just too good of an opportunity to make something very special. eitherway we want to have it done by the time we play at Touch Samadhi... which is the other bit of news, Aerosis live and DJ set at Touch Samadhi, 18-20 september, in asheville north carolina. http://www.touchsamadhi.com/events/equinox Let me know if any of you will make it out We can say hi and stuff...

hi nhjo how much GB is your studio?

Shit. this is my technique too Only twist is I have those super fat mediteranean hummus fingers so I can't press keys right, always hit E minor instead of E and stuff. Also Theres been a few tracks where keyboard cat came in to play me off. Went alot