Aeros

It doesn't matter what kind of brush you use to make a painting.

+2-4bpm and the full on crowd will love it. I don't know if you know what i think of full on though, so i'll let other speak

Oops, told you i think you gotta do lower bpm in the other topic, but here is more like it Hey you gotta try some different kicks and more fresh percussions, swipe me a message if you think so too and i'll hook up some minimal techno samples. Think about starting to side-chain compress bass, and then doing things with its envelope (so its not just a flat swell which is as borring as anything) , super groovage if you do. You also don't need the stupid samples unless you want 16 year old fans. Weren't good in 98, still aren't good in 2010. Those are my thoughts on this work

ACID trance!!! This is fun stuff, huge fan of early-mid 90s acid trance. Think your bpm is a little too high, connects more with raveyness than true techno. I think that part of oldschool can get left behind...lower bpm = more room you can fill between beats, but then this is just what i think.

Ormion I second and third everything you pointed out, I share your thoughts completely, in a sense this is keeping me a little on the reserve with aerosis, while theres so many tracks and substantial music, there is a degree of musicianship and storytelling that can address what you pointed out, there become these issues with in order to do anything different, by virtue of that it is not the oldschool goa sound... since well, its different. But this is what it must be people can really do some wacky different things but then its in the realm of the new and the process of accepting it is more obscure since it can be skipped over for "not sounding like that classic etnica sound" or whatever arbitrary goal there is. I have a major issue with "old is golding" in the sense of reaching to new horizons of rythm and trance. So something like radical distortions album did not really hold out with me. Great music, even good on a dancefloor, but dwells mostly on MFG-esque melodies. but i heard those and MFG does them better than anyone that isn't MFG All music stands on its own though, what we are saying is that we just really are open to the wackyness, and i'm with you on that After 7 years of listening to trance music I am by now wholeheartedly interested in what else can be done, to where I appreciate aspects of minimal music, progressive, house, dark, most of the gamut out there. I think the biggest problem is everyone tries to make music so identifyable, easy to associate with the vibes we've felt before. We need to embrace music as a form of storytelling, in order to do this we have to admit it doesn't matter what it sounds like and what sounds you are using. These are just some musings that i haven't gotten rid of in the past half year... however I feel really good about things, and already there is music that is continueing, existing on its own terms, aspects of suntrip music really show this beyond what psytrance is willing to do in most cases. I feel a wall has been met with always putting in more energy, more crazy, more madness and going faster and faster with the music, i don't agree that brute force stimulation translates into a "more" transcendental peice of music. (but then again, maybe i just really hate full-on by now) The magic is in change and flow, progression and story. Self evident information, but since we've hit the topic on the head I have offered my input Biggest peeve. #3 - albums keep the same vibe and rythm the whole album. Do that for your live sets, but an album often just becomes a compilation of tracks when its like that, it makes me look for the best tracks but not want to listen to the album. For this reason I kinda enjoy suntrips compilations a little more than some of the albums, it covers alot of territory. The good news is that khetzal did this perfectly, and even filteria, and what sounds like e-mantra too, so its far from a complaint

Well I thought it was odd they have 3 million people following them with gangsta christian rap playing on their main page right now http://www.myspace.com/infectedmushroomcentral but wacha gonna do about it your move.

Wow! I am really digging this music, especially the last 2 tracks... there is a future for goa there! Goa sounds so fresh when its slowed down like that...like all the best parts of psychill minus all the borring, slow, and undynamic parts of it. Ninive Under The Stars.... Dansul Ielelor, utterly cosmic trance music I've been listening to tracks off this album every day, and i haven't been listening to music every day lately. Really love how the use of the snare drum is forgone entirely, with a delayed, echoing open hat instead... such a classic sound that literally hasn't been around since a decade. Truelly trance music

Beautiful! thank you so much for sharing real music, these are great!

Hey Tamlin is one of the coolest sounds in the last few years, you guys would do well to check into the music

When we're totally happy that its worth your ears In otherwords...sooner rather than later. We've got 3-4 parties to do before the year is over to test everything out, and will be making a second submission to suntrip by the end of this year...then likely to do some polish based on their feedback, they have really high standards, so they do their job very well! Its the home stretch =)

Talk to NHJO, he sells ideas like this on the grey market, he might have something for you.

Yeah so, avoid this label if you want to get payed for your music. I don't have a problem putting out something for free every now and then since that is practically what you are doing even if you get some kind of $, but its just not professional to say you will pay X amount, and then ignore any communication attempts from the artist once you try to bring it up. Kagdila is a business, it has other people compile the CDs and does not deal directly with the artists. Shu ki can be very transparent this way.

Well for one of his first tracks, and given that he was 15 or 16, its really really good. Tempestuous G is Jeremy Green, today he is 1/2 of Aerosis You can check out his old stuff here http://www.psytranceworld.com/player.php?tid=828 or http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=363519&t=7529 super classic style

I'm really really sorry if you think this is spam, but I found it too funny to see a slight breach in our psytrance bubble by the mainstream... I love how they describe us as 40 year old hippies on acid since the late 80s. Embeded in the article is a slinky wizard track too. http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/sie...999/page-2.html

Dave has hundreds of tracks, I've been following him since atleast 2003. He isn't released much but he DOMINATED mp3.com and other sites like this...like hundreds of thousands of downloads. He runs beatbiz.net, and doesn't need people to release him and his music is awesome, varied, funky, and something I look up to for years. Thats still Dave, he has some buddies (ephexis) who make freeform hardcore and are with nu nrg records in the UK.

read carefully: Eat Static ....every psy genre start (or end) there.

actually, minesotta and iowa throw down the midwest psy scene. They kinda rock, i've been there :clapping: chillumafia know where its at. hint: its not indoors.

All I can say to that is check out this awesome music video for becoming insane: Good stuff ormion. Das Muv Yer Arsch is an awesome club name.

To start some interesting side discussion, I want to mention a very insightful observation a friend of mine who puts parties together told me about.. A party, and therefore a scene and its popularity is all based on what music the cute girls will dance to. You can throw a raging trance party but it'll be lined all the way back up with israelis and pretty much just dudes. So techno is all wild because all the girls dance to it instead of trance. You can prove this affect by observing a vacant dancefloor. At a certain point 3-5 hippie girls will move in and spin poi or something, then within the next 2 tracks theres suddenly 30 people going at it. What do you guys think of the validity of this rule? How true is this according to what you can observe in the scene. cuz... if you look close its so true its funny....

overhyped already sry it is only 3 days old, and halfway done, and thats a live take on it, still being refined I guess I should say But I find it wild, impossible to put it down. bet you can't put your fingers on how it wobbles around between 146 and 148 bpm in tempo Still, you all are right that certain layers of expression are missing, or not yet worked in thanks for open discussion.

Just curious, what do you guys think of the following track?

Yes ofcourse, awesome response

A friendly reminder that we are almost in 2010. and still listen to goa That said, I want to share a concept track in its entirety. Nothing's gotten me this excited in a while Check this out, heres an mp3 in exchange for comments or critique: --> http://www.thekandieman.com/bobby/aerosis%...%2010%20(4).mp3 tell me what that does for you its only about halfway done and still very live, but thats where the magic is at.

Has anyone noticed that after this extensive feedback, the results are a bell curve ? means they are right

Yes but in the end, good music is good music, and there are those who simply like good music and hate defining things into a genre. I smell a psytrance elitistism topic about to spur on . I dunno, full on is mostly god awfully terrible and lazy, but there are so many people who swear by certain really good melodic full on tracks, but we just can't get over that borring monotone rubber bass. so same thing there. But on the other hand I agree with you, music should not be dismissed. I have tried many expiraments too but have had good luck, simply tell them the kick is not what you're supposed to be listening to. If all else fails recommend them some headphones and to listen to really good trance with eyes closed, and after about 15 minutes of just nestling into the music, to attempt to recognize what part of the track you are hearing (within the same track) .. is it beginning middle or end, you won't be able to tell....So break them into what trance music basically is, and then all thats left is for them to find that certain sound that sets them off, everyone has their first favorite that makes you a fan of the style. For me I have always preferred rythmic, lyricless music because lyrics in most music distract me from the vibe of the music, they put a definition to it when I would rather preffer the much more open interpretation of melodies and composition, which should achieve the same thing when done right. Also when I first heard goa and psytrance I didn't think human beings could possibly have made it :posford: and thats the wave most of us here are on. But following that grove, I deeply enjoy ambient music, even certain phases of classical, jam sessions, progressive rock or anything that can claim to be progressive...(jazz) and spontaneous. Lyrics can do this too on rare occasions, but that depends on the singer using their voice spontaneously and progressively. But what do you mean, it really is just doof doof doof and glitched out robot noises, or from 2003-2007, stupid alien farts. At best it sounds like flying saucers shooting lassers creating fractal crop circles, but thats just because we're dorks. For israeli full on nagas, it sounds like a 1 foot long line of coke. For suomi gnomes, rolling around in the dirt while drunk. Its best to be humble on this matter and just smile at what you have discovered, where everyone else can't see it even though its under their nose. But its really they need to understand trance first to get over the kick. For us its like not even there, for them its a traumatic pounding noise going twice per second. You found this remember, not the other way around. But to get to the point, good music is good music and thats just what everyone likes. They have similar emotional attatchments and mostly similar vibes overall to what they discover as good music. This can be proven from a sociological point of view by over dubbing a raging music party over another raging music party, like so: