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tch tch tch...materialists Owning a CD is not owning the music, one can't own music. Just copies of it. I think digital release is a good idea. You can get only the tracks you want to get, you are able to support more artists, and more of your money goes to thank the artist for taking the time to make the music. However, like Anoebis said ,it needs to be centralized and it needs to be the real deal if its going to be successful. I can't arse myself ot make a new account for a dozen or two different sites out there that have the music. It all needs to come to one place, whether the artists or the labels manage that...this is what needs to happen. And why not both? What if we could DL the tracks after we purchase a CD, and get it in our mail? Some can chose to forgo shipping and just get the mp3s (or wavs), other can get the full deal. As it is right now, the majority of the money goes to the shipping companies and the printing companies, with small moocheries for the labels and even smaller ones for the artists that actually throw it together. Its a great thing to own a CD, but I'm not willing to spend $25 on every CD out there, for some I just want to grab a couple of tracks. I should be able to do that no? And if I really respect the vision a label and its artist's have, I'd like to buy the complete package, the whole CD when I can.

You can but it won't be fun, and you'll be missing out on 90% of the universe. But factually, you can, it doesn't matter what you use to make goa, I could do it with a sampler and a microphone even. Recommend you invest some time to read tutorials and help on good software, like logic, fl studio, cubase, reason, abletone, jeskola buzz, renoise, acid, the list goes on. FL Studio is probably the easiest on first timers, and learning the UI of your software until you are comfortable with it will actually be one of the hardest parts. If you do that, then just keep making music, the more you do the better you'll get - expect yourself to suck immensely for the first year or even two. But to answer your question, from my vaguest of vague knowledge garageband is more of an audio editor than a true sequencer, you will want sequencing software. There are no "kits" you can download, remove that notion immediatly. But if you mean a drum kit with percussion samples, those are plentiful and abundant. For your synths...there will be no "goa" synth patches (like there are psy synth patches you can DL for albino or vanguard, and is probably one reason why psy all sounds the same) goa never had it easy, ever, so even today its very difficult to skillfully make a track - you will have to make a great many of your sounds, by morphing them out of other presets or whatever way, not many leads in software synths will be suitable for goa since they are too over processed and don't have that classic sound, so you will have to sculpt your own and that takes you to learning how to create propper effects tracks on your sounds. So thats a totally brief introduction to what you can expect - if you think garageband can do that for you, you can use it. Other software comes more equiped though. And if this is daunting you - it shouldn't be, this is all a great deal of fun and is very very satisfying, the feeling you get when you finish a track is a really amazing feeling. I often wondered what it means, I imagine it as the appreciation and fun that the world will experience hearing your track all hits you at that moment when you finish the track and have the final copy that will be put out. Everyone who's made a peice of music they dig will know the feeling I'm talking about Artists who complete a painting get the same feeling.

Waiting for it :posford:

*ahem* Album?

I actually want more anoebis sets too

This mix will be played on DI.fm on monday march 24rth http://www.di.fm/calendar/event.php?event=8288

Goa trance certainly has become quite the party again Happy to hear that. @ Anoebis, how about a Ra interview? What've the guys been up to since the last album...what made them decide to do a new one today, and why this day and age? Its curious to me how so many people, without any kind of contact or discussion, all have converged on melodic psychedelic trance again - a large number of people producing since long long ago, have finally gotten good in the last few years - and it seems the old hands too still can bounce a track.

Trance parties > rubbish dumps

You know what would be an even cooler habit...if you also put a period at the end of each word, that way each one will be a new sentance! Like. This. It. Would. Be. Wild. !.

Hmm, mental maze is good but alot of the power in the bass on psyramid is gone, I will prefer the original in that case

Yes, this is the track I've waited years to hear - we've all been waiting years to hear! First 11/10 track for me since the days when I first got into the music.

I have an M-Audio axiom 49 for the purpose of doing live automation passes on anything I want in my tracks, it helps massively in alot of ways, major tool. Sure you don't need it, I think if you're a beginner you should focus on learning the basics first and then when you are ready for it get a controller to help you out and to take advantage of the software you've been learning.

Got links to some of that? Haven't heard any before

Ah true, overlooked indeed - thanks agneton Quick promotional: I think it'd be a good idea to assemble a list of good mixes of this music. I'll start with this one http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=51181 Sorry that I've not yet edited the main body to update it with the material we've gathered, will do it soon, i promise!

So...technicall Cubase, realistically, they'll give you the same results

Eh old, tracks, actually I had this happen recently, but since long ago I've learned to save every save in a new file, so my projects end up in draft number names followed by edits, for example [track name] 5-3 for draft 5 and the 3rd time I've saved in that draft's session. Each time I save its a new file. This is fun too since you can go back to older versions of the song and hear how you built it up, or perhaps you might want to go back since an older direction was better than last night's session, stuff like that. If you still don't save often enough some technical or hardware disaster could sneak up on you though and you still end up losing hours of work. Ofcourse when you go back you're not gonna be arsed to redo it, and even if you were it can never sound the same..often worse. If you have been saving each draft of your work you'd be able to go back and somehow get that automation back in, or at the very least render it out and put it in as a wav and continue from there. We all end up having to do this hardway when stuff like this happens...don't put too much faith in your hardware or software, its bound to fuck up when you most need it to work. So you have to just take a few deep breaths, go outside and walk around to cool off abit, and vow that next time you'll just do even better than the work you did that you lost. This is what you should do

Thats up to the audio engineer isn't it? Since FL7 they've updated their audio engine completely and IMO the differences are non existant. Cubase however, is more efficient for it manages audio completely differently, instead of constantly processing it...(hard to explain this), so in the end you will be able to stack more processing on sound in cubase than in FL, but this is only relevent if your PC is 5 years old and doesn't have the CPU headroom.

Thread is still open for business Will trade FL Studio 7 answers for Ableton Live answers

It could've been worse, the save could've been corrupted and you could've lost everything. I've lost 3 tracks that way

yes, the full moon is vital... I've done similar things... /unhijacks thread

Trohr how do you play Spaceman?

So do we agree that suntrip's compilation cover art is the best cover art there is? I do

Would like to say that I think this list so far is complete with most of the prominent names (I mean everything everyone has added) - from here if we find anything they will be projects hiding on myspace, acidplanet, beatbiz, basically mp3 sites for amateurs to upload. Actually, I know personally about 5-6 artists who have releases today, including myself, who first appeared on download sites with their first productions years ago, those names just never stopped growing... I've unfortunately stopped looking as much but I know that the future artists are all in sites like those - its just alot of work to sift through the bad and generic sounds and to find the new ones, especially since there are so many upload sites.

What should the name for newschool goa trance be? It is ofcourse Goa, and before that its Psychedelic Trance, but we have to refer to new stuff compared to the old stuff as "newschool" goa...which I don't really like since in the end its the same style. Some have suggested all sorts of names, neu goa, nuskool goa...really unnatractive pompous names like that. Why not call it Melodic Goa Trance, or Melodic Psychedelic Trance (to be broader). This is most acurate to me since unanimously all these artists are indeed very big on the melodies and have adopted the melodic style of older goa trance (continueing it, as I say). This style of goa that has survived today is melodic as opposed to some of the more minimal or techy styles of goa (even full on goa) that went on the path thats become what psytrance is today. Well, I'm calling "newschool" as melodic goa trance from now on, and I will include in it all the melodic peices that defined goa for us back 10 years ago, as the modern sound we hear today really are just continueing to explore that story. I'm abit busy with some other things in the musical world, but when I find a chunk of time durring a borring night when I'm not mixing or producing I'll get back to organizing this list! Should be soon. Until then, continue adding every promising goa artist you see to this list.

Good tracks, the atmospheres and clever percussion makes it stand out Good melodies too considering you're making today's psytrance, other producers often forget completely to write a melody. Got any up for download? Stareye is a great track.