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#1 Darkarbiter

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:10 AM

So I know this is the other electronic section, but if it has synths its electronic enough right? So anyway, I got into black metal recently, which is very atmospheric stuff, and a lot of the artists are quite melodic (without being cheesy like melodic death metal) and (long tracks too) ambient influenced. Also there's some great doom out there, and even some funeral doom that's half ambient really.

http://www.youtube.com/v/miDIlGrQPaU


http://www.youtube.com/v/luFCBdS5PAs

and a pure ambient/modern classical track from the former
"http://www.youtube.com/v/npJwCqShjbQ

There's some great folk metal and such as well

http://www.youtube.com/v/_sTIzYTe70w

Hmm was about to edit the title into metal and neofolk/moddern classical since they don't really fit into ambient but no, can't change topic titles on this forum.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 04:47 PM

So I know this is the other electronic section, but if it has synths its electronic enough right? So anyway, I got into black metal recently, which is very atmospheric stuff, and a lot of the artists are quite melodic (without being cheesy like melodic death metal) and (long tracks too) ambient influenced. Also there's some great doom out there, and even some funeral doom that's half ambient really.

http://www.youtube.com/v/miDIlGrQPaU


http://www.youtube.com/v/luFCBdS5PAs

and a pure ambient/modern classical track from the former
"http://www.youtube.com/v/npJwCqShjbQ

There's some great folk metal and such as well

http://www.youtube.com/v/_sTIzYTe70w

Hmm was about to edit the title into metal and neofolk/moddern classical since they don't really fit into ambient but no, can't change topic titles on this forum.

okay yes, a bit ambient, but it's i dont know, childsish? all this style is imo pretty much for little frustrated not really talented musician, if you know a bit guitar and some good orginal melodious guitar playing, you would laugh at those childish solos, i dont know, but im not a teenager anymore i guess, without jugement, but lets listen to chris whitley rather then does immature devil guys, there just ugly haha, and thats why they are frustrated

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:52 PM

Shape of Despair is absolutely beautiful indeed. Great music.

As for Burzum: This guy (Varg Vikernes or something) is an asshole. Fucking Nazi. These tendencies need to be eradicated.

Better listen to some Kampfar for proper Black Metal, made by sane people:

http://www.youtube.c...Q...=PL&index=4

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:25 AM

Shape of Despair is absolutely beautiful indeed. Great music.

As for Burzum: This guy (Varg Vikernes or something) is an asshole. Fucking Nazi. These tendencies need to be eradicated.

Better listen to some Kampfar for proper Black Metal, made by sane people:

http://www.youtube.c...Q...=PL&index=4


:lol: the albums he released from his cell in prison were much better than the ones he released before imprisonment!

I lost contact with black metal few years ago, but from those days i recommend: Summoning (if i remember correctly this album is pretty good). also Nocte Obducta (this was my favorite song of theirs. it continues in part 2 video).

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 11:19 PM

Shape of Despair is absolutely beautiful indeed. Great music.

As for Burzum: This guy (Varg Vikernes or something) is an asshole. Fucking Nazi. These tendencies need to be eradicated.

Better listen to some Kampfar for proper Black Metal, made by sane people:

http://www.youtube.c...Q...=PL&index=4

Kampfar is quite good thanks but varg isn't a nazi, he mentions he's strongly patriotic and he used to describe himself as a nazi, but that the term has a quite different meaning there and he isn't at all rascist/anti slavic/anti jewish like the problems associated with nazism.

What'd you think of agalloch though? I think I'm definitely going to have to look at the whole funeral doom/ambient crossover doom stuff a lot more.

also Nocte Obducta (this was my favorite song of theirs. it continues in part 2 video).

Very nice atmosphere on that one!

okay yes, a bit ambient, but it's i dont know, childsish? all this style is imo pretty much for little frustrated not really talented musician, if you know a bit guitar and some good orginal melodious guitar playing, you would laugh at those childish solos, i dont know, but im not a teenager anymore i guess, without jugement, but lets listen to chris whitley rather then does immature devil guys, there just ugly haha, and thats why they are frustrated

Come discuss doom metal then! All I know is, it's very atmospheric, and it generally doesn't feel immature, in some cases quite deep, and there's stuff that's definitely better than others, and its quite open ended. It's certainly a lot better than hardstyle or grindcore anyway.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 11:35 PM

in case of doom metal you may want to check out:
Katatonia, My Dying Bride, Type O Negative, Tiamat, Agathadaimon, Mortiis, etc.
again these are from 6-7 years ago :drama:

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 03:18 AM

Aren't agathadaimon symphonic black metal? Allready know them, they are quite good. My dying bride is awesome.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 07:39 AM

I don't know too many bands as I kinda just got into it a few months ago but....For sludge/doom: Katatonia, Acid Bath(well these guys r liked 5 or 6 types of metal vary original. too bad they only had 2 albums), Neurosis, Cult Of Luna, Mindrot, Eyes Of Fire, Sunn O))) <---these guys r drone doom, 2 guitars, no drums & half the tracks have no vocals.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:57 AM

Meshuggah!

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:05 PM

Mourning Beloveth.


No need to discuss Doom any further than that :D

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:13 PM

Meshuggah!



Agreed! Also check out Tool, Opeth....

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:02 AM

Meshuggah is not doom, though they do kick tremendish ass. Very good band.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:49 PM

In Flames :blink:
older material better

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 10:49 PM

here are some vids for you (no particular order or "best song of that band"):

Gorefest - Soul Survivor
http://www.youtube.c...feature=channel

Bolt Thrower - No guts no glory


Sentenced - Nepenthe


Anathema - A Dying Wish


Amorphis - Drowned Maid


Aardvarks - Homeless


Benediction - Nightfear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5PgfnUkKRg

Crowbar - The Only Factor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgoDA2nC5Z8

Down - Stone the Crow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLbrJxGtro

Entombed - Wolverine Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQve866m0g

Fear Factory - Replica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZtj-wN404A

In Flames - Only for the Weak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-744BG0kEI

Machine Head - Davidian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wm0TA5FJ3k

Pantera - Cemetery Gates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyczwqRD2NI

Soilwork - Nerve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-qa-e_SJk

Swallow the Sun - The Justice of Suffering
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Tiamat - Whatever That Hurts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB9YYC-8jwY

Tool - Sober
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglVqACd1C8

As I Lay Dying - Meaning in Tragedy
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

... and so on ;-)

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:54 PM

Nice to see you psyheads like doom :P
if you want good funeral doom, listen to:
skepticism
monolithe btw, its not depressing
ahab http://www.youtube.c...E...&playnext=1
and for some more psychedelic stuff: dolorian

oh btw you should also check avantgarde stuff like sleepytime gorilla museum, unexpect, arcturus and solefald.

also anything you find here that isnt goa or ambient is probably metal :P http://www.last.fm/user/d123km4_157312

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 12:51 AM

whoa, guys, respect ... I've never expected to have some of my favourite metal artists mentioned here!

i recommend: Summoning (if i remember correctly this album is pretty good)

Summoning, yes, that's a totally great band. My favourite when it comes to epic black metal. Absolutely love them, since they're fellas from Austria aswell :)
Dol Guldur is good, but I found Stronghold much better. Also Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame. Can't speak for the last one though, I'm keeping it for a special moment ... but this song should clear out all doubts, very good one: (singing in orc language :) ). Minas Morgul isn't that special IMO (except for the song Lugburz).
They've moved away from their black metal arrangements ... now it's trumpets, choir, marching drums and tuned down guitars. Actually brillant.

Mortiis

You know Mortiis?
POWNAGE!
Congratulations, you're the first person I ever met who uttered this name not on the official band forum.
What's your favourite album? Do you know all eras? The past? Sideprojects? Tell me, I wanna know!

Sunn O)))

yes, Sunn O))) is awesome ... very interesting sound, practically dark ambient made with guitars ... interesting
good, good...

I might add: HOLLENTHON.
Absolutely awesome music in the veins of a bit Summoning, but less solitude in the sound and more might and power.
Hollenthon's awesome.
check this out for his old stuff:
check this out for his new stuff: (rough, but gets brillant in the later part)

and apart from all the good and epic stuff I just gotta mention the finnish humppa metal crazyness I so love ... namely:
FINNTROLL:
KORPIKLAANI:
TROLLFEST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Puj0u8p5og

p0wnage forever! \m/

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 04:22 PM

Meshuggah is not doom, though they do kick tremendish ass. Very good band.


Their last album kicks so much ass, it's unbelievable. Seen them play live several times, severe eardrum destructution.

As for stoner/doom/sludge: Ufomammut, Morkobot, Electric wizard, Amenra, Down, are great

Highly recommended albums:

Between the buried and me - Colours (Prog/Death metal)

Gojira - From mars to sirius & The way of all flesh

Porcupine Tree - In Absentia, Deadwing & Fear of a blank planet (very good psychedelic prog rock/metal)

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:09 AM

I see fear factory mentioned... have to add the title track on Demanufacture



it has some electronic effects as well :P

ahh I totally forgot about this one

Fear Factory - Remanufacture Demanufacture

:lol: this is actuallly quite nice... getting some flash-backs!

actually it was FF and White Zombie that re-sparked my interest in electronica after a heavy melt-down in the early-mid nineties

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:26 AM

Summoning, yes, that's a totally great band. My favourite when it comes to epic black metal. Absolutely love them, since they're fellas from Austria aswell :)
Dol Guldur is good, but I found Stronghold much better. Also Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame. Can't speak for the last one though, I'm keeping it for a special moment ... but this song should clear out all doubts, very good one: (singing in orc language :) ). Minas Morgul isn't that special IMO (except for the song Lugburz).
They've moved away from their black metal arrangements ... now it's trumpets, choir, marching drums and tuned down guitars. Actually brillant.


You know Mortiis?
POWNAGE!
Congratulations, you're the first person I ever met who uttered this name not on the official band forum.
What's your favourite album? Do you know all eras? The past? Sideprojects? Tell me, I wanna know!


Mortiis was one of my favs. i liked the atmospheres they create, but like any other black metal band they are too much into making themselves like clowns. I like their side project Vond. it's been a looooooooong time since i listened to metal though so everything is blurred. i liked their dark ambient albums :) but i guess those can;t be considered metal! i also like their softer album The Smell Of Rain. even liked the synth pop vocals on Everyone Leaves. :rolleyes:

but i prefer Summoning. and yeah Lugburz is really good :)
back then Nocte Obducta was one of those bands that changed my taste from death metal to atmospheric black metal. the video i posted earlier in this thread is their best track IMO. if you take the harsh vocals out i would still love that song. in general, vocals in black metal bands is something i'm not fond of. it's too, emmm, childish! :unsure:

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:29 AM

Aren't agathadaimon symphonic black metal? Allready know them, they are quite good. My dying bride is awesome.


i think their earlier albums are more doom metal than symphonic black. did you check Katatonia? that's pure doom!




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