astralprojection

that is one excellent and refreshing comment. the first music i ever made was with ReBirth. what does it mean though? Does hardware/software have nothing to do with what is new and old school ? im enclined to believe, no. but certainly its part of it. software then wasnt nearly as good as software now. and software now is what make artists like nova fractal, and artifact303 so damn good. but artifact303, im not even sure if that is all software........ nova fractal i do know, and to me that is some of the best Goa Trance that exists today. i dont care the slightest if it sounds software..and its damn near the definition of new school to me... while artifact303 is somehow borderline to the old school ? i dont know, im not making any sense. nova fractal - common cold for example. thats one of the tracks id put as top 3 neogoa of all time... and it sounds software as hell and nowhere near the quality of artifact303 - feelings - yet i still rank it as top 3 with that one. its a strange thing - music.

sorry to necro this old thread but the medal was never made and id like to refund everyone (well, it was not many people but still :P) their money. if youd email me (u can use the email under my avatar) or send me a pm here i will gladly accomodate. i have everything on my paypal but honestly do not know what is what there. i am very sorry. real life got in the way and 2016-2018 was not good years for me. not going to go into details. i am not making any excuses, i simply want to make good to those who did in fact donate. and to draeke, im very sorry i couldnt deliver. i feel really really shitty about this.

you sir, are incorrect although i will concede that ODB is a legend.

okay, very interesting, im dying to know =) and yes dammit, music is fun and everything technical about music wether it be genre definitions or what have u, is very fun. Specially because eveyrone has their own opinion and noone is wrong. That is the main fun part about it. And the concurrent disagreement that ensues by the opinions. ;D

wu tang is for another thread and did you mofos ignore the best hip hop song in history i posted . edit: no but for real, what the heck

speaking of crazy beats this qualifys because it was produced by our very own KEN RING and RUNE POTTER probably the best song in the history of hip hop. Sean Price......

if 25 euro is too steep i can let it go for 15 to someone here <3 also, if youd like a pic of the disc i can send that too.

have you ever seen Imba and Nhjo Hyenro online at the same time??? exactly! at this point it doesnt even matter if its a bit or if he was honest all along. in fact at this time, id prefer it to be the latter, id go see him live just to cheer the guy.

^ bra skit mannen men colgate white och long distance runner, seriöst dom beatsen ..... other than that, great stuff <3 sedlighetsroteln and organism 12 was party music for the longest of times. (at parties where trance music was considered "gay" :/ ) and timbuktu was god in 99-04 as far as swedish hip hop.... hey, remember fronda and ebola - efterblivna knarkare? legend-ARY (not that the rap skills are that great, still made legendary status in most of underground sweden) for the non swedes, it raps about doing massive amounts of drugs, getting severe brain damage, and doing voilent crimes. (it is satire) (deja vu, did i post this before somewhere on here in the past)

Swedish hip hop at its finest. Although this specific track was done in English and produced by a guy from Poland iirc. Mix and Master is absolutely flawless. sadly the rap itself is not one of his better. Another superb one, Swedish production too, his rap here is about 100x better. If I had to chose, this one wins, easily.

yeah, but quazar to me (and a few others here) seem to be the one. i completely agree that RA isnt new school (although i do see the merit in him being so) and ethereal is borderline at best

we did find that point though, and its 2001 and SynSUN -Quazar. unless you got a better once in mind Ethereal - all systems are go and RA - To sirius were also great suggestions.

all you said is pretty much spot on, and also what i feel the differences are except this little line here. I think no newschool track- ever- can compete with the heart racing moments some of the old school can. I can make a list of at least 10 tracks - that in my mind cannot be topped (or at least, have not been topped yet) (for example AP stuff from dancing galaxy, hallucinogen stuff from lone deranger, etc etc. not to mention one-hit wonders like juan,domi,jorg - spiritual healing remix, pigs in space - solar, and the absolute stormer that is p.cok - double doper) artifact303, e-mantra and filteria in all glory - they just dont outdo those old school classics. (my humble opinion, by no means facts) with that said i also still enjoy new school more now, than i ever did

why so grumpy paul this is all a friendly discussion about music and genre definitions

this was such an honor and treat to have worked with such a great track =) and the best of luck to you in your endeavours.

me too

yeah i think synsun - quazar is the clear winner. and as for what constitues new school - for me im convinced that the main characteristic is a very clean sound, that the artist worked very very hard on to perfect. as in the old days, these guys were actual musicians, they played actual music, and the music was always in the forefront. the technical aspect of sound design was limited to the gear they had. some gear sounds amazing just from the get go which is why the old school has that sweet analog warm cozy sound quality. but; it happened automatically. now with new school, most producers (certainly not all) use software. with that comes an advantage - they have averything imaginable avaliable to them to truly perfect the mix. it will still not sound as warm and analog as it did in the old school. there, that is what i have learned and concluded, from this thread what the difference are =)

couldnt find a topic.. is anyone going? i was actually contemplating on going..

comon now its just getting crazy in here

satori razor is incredible, in fact the compilation Trancentral 4 which it was on, is a must have (ps. i thought the track was called Sirius - Satori Razor)

for old school i think im still gonna say Mindfield - Lets get stoned and watch the freaks. its as goa it can get, to me. for new school its always been artifact303 - feelings.

maybe i was a bit harsh to this reply, because i do agree with you in philosophy. but , from a nerds perspective i do want to get to the bottom of this thing

whaaaat ? what is new school about tetrahedron exactly in your mind? im very interested and i certainly will keep an open mind to what you say

really good quailty on the disc, nearly no scratches at all. case is normal wear and tear. https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/954154424

Meh. Old school and new school is a thing and we certainly didn't invent it in this thread. We are simply trying to figure out what exactly new and old school means