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What you say is right ... the same song also grew on me these days. Except that I had no disgust, found it quite okay from the first listen on. But now I find it totally awesome... It's pure bliss, these passages with the calm synth melody, they totally crack me up ... it's actually a very characteristic sound for Eat Static IMO, except the weird singing. A wonderful tune. But the rest I heard from the album didn't please my ears so much ... maybe Insejn is right (what I heard from Epoch Calypso sounds utterly horrible though, so probably he isn't)...

Well, basically I agree, but lately the chillout department got more stereotypical as well with all those generic indian samples... It all depends what sells though, that's right. If these samples sell, then more stuff with that gets produced. That's why I actually dislike this kind of "big wave" stuff ... everything where the masses are either is already bad or is getting bad. The key is to find stuff that is good and that nobody listens to ... because then the motives of the producers are different aswell - not money but good music.

What happened to this ? Is it out? It's unavailable on Psyshop and not even in the catalogue on Wirikuta (they don't even have it in the "coming soon" section...) ... and when I search it on Google I get pointed to more illegal sites than legal ones already on the first page. Discogs doesn't list the album either. What is this? Amazon says it already can be ordered as UK import, but Psyshop doesn't have it ... what happened?

ouch, the Dream Temple doesn't exist anymore AFAIK ... I read about that in the Mushroom mag already long ago

What? Didn't know that...

The best example for a track that grew on me is Matenda - Stormchaser. At first I hated it. Always skipped whenever possible. What a crap. I regretted putting it on that Minidisc ... but I always forgot to delete it. What a crap! Until this one day where I was running in the woods, thinking about something and forgetting to skip the track. And then suddenly I came to a different place in the wood - the trees there were older, higher and of a different kind, they almost formed a sort of dome with their twigs and leaves ... and that's where I interrupted my thoughts (this was obviously a special place) and became conscious what track was playing ... but just as I get there (I never was there before) there's that peculiar break in the track and I stop running and think "hey, this actually fits..." ... and then there's that part where the voice says: "does it have to be more special than that?". That was the moment I got it. This was awesome! And from that point on the track got better every time I listened to it ... it got so good I bought the Bakkelit compilation almost just because of it! It also kinda started my movement away from the fullon and all that... And it STILL grows! That's the best part

Ha, the Mauro Picotto mixes I used to listen to seven years ago were waaay better than that and I even say that now as I totally hate Schranz I was right to move out of that scene, that stuff has obviously gotten only worse. See? That's the best argument I delivered there that actually in ALL electronic music genres everything goes down the drain! So stop complaining! You are worse than Austrians...

Yes, yes, yes! You really should give this a try! It's totally awesome For sound samples look there: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display...ase.asp?id=3176

Right ... I also rather listen to the worst fullon crap release than to go to a club that plays commercial trance or Schranz techno. Or hardstyle or speedcore... But anyway. The actual core problem of our scene is that this cheap repetitive fullon stuff obviously sells! There are people who buy it - many people obviously, otherwise they wouldn't put so much effort and marketing into it and not everybody would start producing the same sound. The funny thing is, I have never encountered somebody who truely loves fullon. And on this board there are some people who like it, yeah, but not enough to reflect this big movement in our scene. If the same percentage of people who like fullon on this forum compared to the number of total members would be applied on the global psytrance scene we wouldn't have enough buyers so that this crap could become so big! So where are the masses of buyers actually hiding?

Ha, see, that's the reason why I can't complain like you! How many CDs did you buy in total? You listed 4 plus "the rest of Yabai records" plus "a few other CD's" ... well, let's say it was 10 CDs. Or was it more? Anyway. I recently bought 2 CDs, carefully selected ... they are both awesome releases and I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I don't have the money for more and will buy my next load in some months. But I will never complain. For I can only afford really good releases, I just practically can't buy one that I find bad since I select the candidates for a purchase long before I do buy it and I listen to samples, read reviews and so on. Bad releases - or, let's say "not absolutely good releases" - get filtered out long before they even reach my shopping cart... It's funny, because now it's apparently the case that the fact that I alway considered a bummer - that I can't afford most of the music - turns out to be an advantage in the end because it saves me from buying releases that are not good and thus saving me from becoming a complaining grumpy old man like most of you here "One day the last one will be the first one." ... oh yes. It feels really good to be the last one now But why do you have to buy so much music? Why can't you do it like me?

I don't know why you obviously just now had a sudden wakeup, Mars. The thing with the overexaggerated promo texts is going on like this for years already, no, it already has become an integrated pillar of our scene! I have been growing up with it, so to say - well, at least since I stopped downloading and really buy CDs I see texts like this almost everywhere. I don't really know other promo texts than these ones and I can't remember having read anything not exaggerated. I'm already expecting this kind of promo text so to say... What really can the text say? If it was objective, like "another fullon release of known producer Skazi with the same formula as his previous works, go buy it" then nobody would feel like to check out the release. A text has to be positive, it has to encourage people to check out the music and the artist and that's exactly what the exaggerated texts do! What's so bad about them? Everybody knows that all what matters in the end is the music and people who buy albums only because of promo texts deserve to spend their money on crap anyway. And it's likely that the texts (at least not the engrish ones ) are written by people who are trained and know how to write these types of texts. In a professional label it's common that somebody visited a crash course in this.

Dedicating compilations to the compiler? What an idiotic crap! This has nothing to do with the DISCOGraphieS of artists! Except if the compiler produced all tracks on the compilation by himself. Which makes the compilation an album

So many horrible ones: Bitkit Tube Central Processing Unit Vaishiyas Freq Lish Ott Prex I Awake Jaia Pixel Rocky Phanatic Perplex Delysid Slider True Lies Ski Fi Jey & Ex Nizzel Ix-Lam-At Trancemission Klopfgeister Day Din V-Tunes Brisker & Magitman Nok Krama ... So many more... But the music is not necessarily bad. Klopfgeister for example - I like the Klopfies! But the name is horrible. To an english speaking person it might not sound like that, but to me it does. If I imagine Klopfgeister to be an english word though, with no meaning, then I actually find it cool...

Check his EarthShine album then, I'm sure you'll like

Oh man, I can't order there, the COD fees are insane They want 14 Euros COD fee PLUS shiping costs extra! That's more than a complete CD! This is why I didn't order there. I'd like the shirt, but beh, COD And now I got my stuff already elsewhere anyway and have no money anymore

OH MAN, I finally, finally, FINALLY have this one! It was about damn time. I loved Audiomatrixx from the first minute I heard Stefan play a track of the new project live already years ago, so I'm damn happy I finally got my copy of this album It was a long road till I got the money ... First it went for an Ipod, then for a Shisha and for other stuff. But now I finally had it and ordered it - actually I ordered it thursday and it already arrived, so cool, seems like the album couldn't wait to finally get to me The music is fantastic! I had kinda known this before, since I practically ate the clips on myspace, but boy, this is awesome. This is how music must be - fresh, happy, dynamic, innovative, groovy and positive all over! Very good And you know what's funny? The CD text on the disc in Winamp says "Magnetrixx" ... seriously, just put it in your PC! It's funny because obviously that piece is indeed the long awaited next chapter in the Magnetrixx book (I always thought Audiomatrixx should be looked at seperately) and thus can be regarded as the real successor to Wired (at least for me)... Great, great, great! We need more like this

Oh gosh, how could I forget that! Makyo is brilliant! Sheesh... Although if I really think about it ... maybe Makyo is not that suitable for Morrowind. I mean, the music is absolutely breathtaking, but I'd get mad if some Dremora asshole or whoever (those goddamn huge birds for example, them I hate the most!) would come and attack me in the middle of Vismaya or just before this wonderful peaceful climax of Suzhou River comes in ... argh, no, that would really ruin the atmosphere. Then again, I wouldn't listen to CBL's The Path anywhere in Vvardenfell either, so well, maybe the Chillseeker will enjoy it nevertheless. Don't go into dangerous areas when listening to long songs though...

That's my opinion aswell. The sound of The Path is warmer and actually more psychedelic as the rest of their works. Really good stuff! You should still get Hydroponic Garden though, it's a masterpiece aswell. For me The Path and Hydroponic Garden come before World of Sleepers...

I'm not a big fan of Penta, but this isn't even so bad. If he dropped the Penta twists - they fit better in his dark project - and would make the thing a bit more structured with a little more house in it I'd even like it

Oh yes, man, you got the spirit The good thing about Morrowind was that its in-game music was in mp3 format and you could put all of your own mp3 files in the game music folders, even synced to exproring pace or battle pace! That was the BEST ever! I doubt I'd have played it so much if there were only these five songs that ship with the game - they are nice, but after 50 hours they get boring. Oblivion I'm now playing on PS3, so there's no mp3 folder anymore ... well, fortunately I got an ipod so I can still listen to my own music The only thing is, I don't listen to that much psychill when playing. I've got a master mixture of psychill, new age, medieval ambient and lotr soundtrack pieces. My own secret Morrowind recipe so to say However, there's one song I must recommend: Shiva Chandra - Chilli Out ... it's beatless, but sooo good! It feels like it's made for these Telvanni towers on the northeastern coast of Morrowind. I remember having put the song into the music folder and then I was in Tel Branora and this piece kicked in for the first time. Nothing better than that! I levitated up to the tower to fly around it just because the music was so great I bet you'll like that one as well.

interesting suggestion, thanks

That's what I heard aswell. I also heard H.U.V.A. Network will get a reprint aswell. But I'd like to know two things. First, when will these babies be released? And second, will the covers look different to the first print? Anybody knows anything?

The site is great! It really kinda represents some of the glitchy sound visually. Cool...

If I ever went alone to a party? Man, I almost always go alone! Yes, that's right ... I'm there almost always alone. If I can recommend it? Well, yes of course, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this for six years now Why I'm almost always going alone? Well, at the beginning nobody wanted to come with me (I ain't got any friends who are into this stuff). But I was curious still, wanted to see the artists and such and I can take care of myself, so I went anyway. And that's just how it was. Prior to a party I asked if anybody would want to come with me and many people said no and those who didn't say no didn't want to pay so much entry fee for a music they don't know. And well, that's how it went at the beginning. And after some time I didn't even ask people anymore, I was just going. Why I don't have friends in the scene that go with me? Well, I don't talk to many people at parties because first it's too loud and second I'm not that social and third I'm not keen on making friends with many of them anyway. "Peace, bro, but leave me in peace" so to say. I really don't care that much. My motives why I am there are probably different. They just want to have fun, I see it totally different, kinda. I'm there because of the music and only because of the music. I don't take any psychedelic substances either. And over the last six years my habits shifted altogether. I don't "party" anymore, I come to see "live" sets. I check the timetables. I meet with friends, then when the liveact is scheduled to play I leave them and go to the party. It varies, but the general setting of my psy party life is like that meanwhile. And soon after the act I wanted to see has played I mostly leave, because I'm not interested in the generic fullon the DJs play today ... except if the DJ was good, then I stay longer, but that's the case not so often. Overall I can say I go when I want to go and see what I want to see. Quick and efficient. The social factor gets ranked down anyway if you see it from that point. Of course I already took some people with me and it even was fun (though I feel like a complete idiot when I'm there with somebody who doesn't know the scene and I gotta explain things and get surprised looks, it feels alien). But they are of the kind that goes to small parties with little entry with DJs playing and such, they'd never spend much money on it, they aren't interested in the stuff so to say! And I'm not doing this kind of stuff anymore, I went to these kinds of little parties three years ago. I'm not doing this to "party" anymore, I have the parties elsewhere with friends, I'm just in it for the live sets and personal appearances of artists nowadays. I do my thing. And since I'm a horribly egocentric person it only is better that I do this alone, this way I just get the most out of it! And Ormion, just do it, man You can do it if you are nice to people, don't take any drugs and don't drink too much. At least that's how I do it. And tell somebody where you are going ... really, do it, last time I was at a location in some dark and really spooky park area near the river, doubt anybody would have found my corpse within a week if anybody would have thrown me into the water ... I'll never forget that. I'll always tell where I'm going from now on. That festival, I'm sure it will be nice. Have a nice time there

I never thought that this was Glitch. I thought Glitch was a very incoherent, deranged and unstructured style - a style with "glitches" so to say. It's fun that I actually already like it despite not knowing what it is, haha... I checked that Frame song out ... and well, it sounds not bad. I'd have classified that as ordinary ambient though if I didn't knew now that it was Glitch... I'll use this term with a total different perspective to it in the future