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I don't get that

Have you checked Wirikuta? http://www.wirikuta.at

That explains a lot...

really cool ... have you been there? You know what's interesting? The combination, that once man becomes calm, relaxed and chilled to ambient music - or even without - the best stuff that fits visually is sights of masses and masses of stars, galaxies, the endless universe ... nothing terrestrial like a forest or such (I mean, that fits aswell, but not in that extent, you know - at least in my opinion) ... I guess it has something to do with where we came from and where we will return to ... in a way ... don't you think?

U want maximal? Check out da video that Mike A posted! Maxxxximal crowd r0x0r! *vomits violently on the floor* At the sight of such pathetic makes-me-wanna-hang-myself-psy-music (hey, a new genre!) it's a relief to see these Psyshop charts, really, come on, admit it!

Guys, look into the thread above, some nice person finally did what we were all waiting for Cheers

BIG THANKS TO YOU BROTHER!!! Also thank you for evaluating the chill releases! FINALLY! I don't care if this is uber official or sooo hardcore detailed or whatever, a tendency is all I wanted. THANK YOU! You are da man :posford: About the results ... well, it surprises me that EarthShine is on top, it wasn't that good to me ... and Matends on rank 35, it really could have done better, but well... Good result is Sync24 on rank 3 in chill. That's nice. Cheers, man, this is cool

Yep, I really really hope they are going to repeat that some time again ... they can even bring terrible Skazi music on the fullon floor, doesn't matter, I'll go there nevertheless just to chill in the planetarium Well, see, that's the problem ... the sky is almost never clear and even if it was then it's difficult to find a good spot ... and "out in the countryside" is easier said than done.

Erm ... no, it isn't ... I know what you mean, I became tired of waiting myself and got the same *cough* erm... forget it... ... but it isn't out. It probably leaked out, but it's not officially released yet Concerning the rest I also am with you, this album is nothing so special (sorry to shatter your hopes, folks ... I hope you'll find it better than me though). Maybe one great and 3 good tracks, the rest forgettable. Nothing compared to what I expected it to sound like (I expected a masterpiece). Not worth 15 Euros at all to be honest...

I don't get what's so bad about that chart... Audiomatic on 2nd place, yay! :posford: This, on the other hand, makes me chunder right onto the carpet floor ... Yet most likely just this is the stuff that gets these overmotivated and exaggerated reviews ... I can already picture one of 'em in my head ... "massive achievement" ... "gigantomanic live gig" ... "music from the heart" ... yuck, I guess I have to chunder again... But that's how it is, it's how it has to be. It was like this for years. "Never go buy one of those albums with these reviews that make it sound like the best of the best" ... it's a rule.

I'm sorry, no pics. I guess you know how a planetarium looks like ... and if not then it's time to go to one Besides you wouldn't have seen anything it that almost-darkness anyway ... and photos with flash would have been cruel to everybody in there. It was undoubtedly the best ambient experience I had so far apart from smoking Shisha to CBL's Hydroponic Garden. I now want to rent that planetarium just to put some of my Ultimae CDs in and listen to them ... I mean, this was so great... Are there other locations that great for ambient music? A real sky full of stars maybe, but you almost never have a view that good, besides you must be out of the city to have no light sources near that dim the star light... Gothic buildings such as churches must be awesome locations aswell ... in the french town Guebwiller there's such a location called "Les Dominicains de Haute-Alsace" ... and there they already had ambient concerts with Solar fields for example ( http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKOgYFMZo ) ... looks awesome, but I wasn't there. I'm even too stupid to attend these concerts around here. I missed Solar Fields as he was playing here ... and I also missed an ambient concert in a church once (that was Sunn O ... I could bite my ass for that )

I have the same syndrome lately... I almost got angry as I watched that bit of film now. Not a good sign

You guys, you guys... Last night I was on a party and experienced the best ambient/chill floor ever. And really, it probably was! This party was held in a planetarium and they opened the observatory dome for the guests (they normally never do this). And they played pure ambient there! It was sooo cool ... I assume you guys have been to planetaria already, you know, this biiig dome where they can project the star constellations on with a huge projector device. And they switched it on! It was like sitting on the starlight deck in a space station, to watch this big star dome that showed a big part of our milky way galaxy and so many stars, rotating with an endlessly slow speed ... some cool ambient visuals flowing in from the sides sometimes as they put up rotating projectors ... and all that to an ultimae-style panoramic sound ... comfy seats ... AWESOME I tell ya! AWESOME! The best ambient floor I have ever been to ... I mean, I haven't been to many yet, but I think it's not easy to top this, isn't it? Man... Unfortunately they closed it at 5 ... and I was really pissed off about that, because what are you supposed to do after such a massive panoramic chill session - go to the fullon floor? Ridiculous. But still ... I'm so happy I have been there ... it was sooo cool...

good guestion When I hear the term "Dark Goa", I'm thinking of something like Battle Of The Future Buddhas... When I hear the term "Dark Psy" I'm just thinking "not again... " Anyway, get Gappeq - Speaker Seeker.

You mean Audiomatrixx - Variations ... a really good album btw Well, judging from the list of tracks that you say you like you are somewhat on my line anyway ... Auricular, Shiva Chandra, Magnetrixx ... that's what I like and would have recommended. You should get their albums though. And since your nickname suggests that you know about the label Acid Casualties it's pointless to recommend this one aswell...

this part caught my attention... I'm always interested in music for such situations. Unfortunately I don't think I can help you as I can't really get how you mean the melody ... what's this C,D and F and what are the dots and spaces and how is the time pattern to be interpreted? Was the song just the bassline and nothing else or were there effects? Plus when I have smoked a lot of weed (so that I get close to panic), noises distort so that I never can say that what I hear is really the noise that is there, you know ... could well be that you heard something else But actually I don't have a clue myself I'd direct you to early Carbon Based Lifeforms stuff, that's what I'd listen to if I was close to panick on weed ... and most of their stuff has these calm basslines and a warm sound That aforementioned Biosphere song would probably scare me away completely though

What you say is right ... the same song also grew on me these days. Except that I had no disgust, found it quite okay from the first listen on. But now I find it totally awesome... It's pure bliss, these passages with the calm synth melody, they totally crack me up ... it's actually a very characteristic sound for Eat Static IMO, except the weird singing. A wonderful tune. But the rest I heard from the album didn't please my ears so much ... maybe Insejn is right (what I heard from Epoch Calypso sounds utterly horrible though, so probably he isn't)...

Well, basically I agree, but lately the chillout department got more stereotypical as well with all those generic indian samples... It all depends what sells though, that's right. If these samples sell, then more stuff with that gets produced. That's why I actually dislike this kind of "big wave" stuff ... everything where the masses are either is already bad or is getting bad. The key is to find stuff that is good and that nobody listens to ... because then the motives of the producers are different aswell - not money but good music.

What happened to this ? Is it out? It's unavailable on Psyshop and not even in the catalogue on Wirikuta (they don't even have it in the "coming soon" section...) ... and when I search it on Google I get pointed to more illegal sites than legal ones already on the first page. Discogs doesn't list the album either. What is this? Amazon says it already can be ordered as UK import, but Psyshop doesn't have it ... what happened?

ouch, the Dream Temple doesn't exist anymore AFAIK ... I read about that in the Mushroom mag already long ago

What? Didn't know that...

The best example for a track that grew on me is Matenda - Stormchaser. At first I hated it. Always skipped whenever possible. What a crap. I regretted putting it on that Minidisc ... but I always forgot to delete it. What a crap! Until this one day where I was running in the woods, thinking about something and forgetting to skip the track. And then suddenly I came to a different place in the wood - the trees there were older, higher and of a different kind, they almost formed a sort of dome with their twigs and leaves ... and that's where I interrupted my thoughts (this was obviously a special place) and became conscious what track was playing ... but just as I get there (I never was there before) there's that peculiar break in the track and I stop running and think "hey, this actually fits..." ... and then there's that part where the voice says: "does it have to be more special than that?". That was the moment I got it. This was awesome! And from that point on the track got better every time I listened to it ... it got so good I bought the Bakkelit compilation almost just because of it! It also kinda started my movement away from the fullon and all that... And it STILL grows! That's the best part

Ha, the Mauro Picotto mixes I used to listen to seven years ago were waaay better than that and I even say that now as I totally hate Schranz I was right to move out of that scene, that stuff has obviously gotten only worse. See? That's the best argument I delivered there that actually in ALL electronic music genres everything goes down the drain! So stop complaining! You are worse than Austrians...

Yes, yes, yes! You really should give this a try! It's totally awesome For sound samples look there: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display...ase.asp?id=3176

Right ... I also rather listen to the worst fullon crap release than to go to a club that plays commercial trance or Schranz techno. Or hardstyle or speedcore... But anyway. The actual core problem of our scene is that this cheap repetitive fullon stuff obviously sells! There are people who buy it - many people obviously, otherwise they wouldn't put so much effort and marketing into it and not everybody would start producing the same sound. The funny thing is, I have never encountered somebody who truely loves fullon. And on this board there are some people who like it, yeah, but not enough to reflect this big movement in our scene. If the same percentage of people who like fullon on this forum compared to the number of total members would be applied on the global psytrance scene we wouldn't have enough buyers so that this crap could become so big! So where are the masses of buyers actually hiding?