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fully agree with all of this one ... except classical, but even that I've started to like more than before my music repertoire has changed a lot over the last years from a trance-only list (gosh, I was even more closeminded than Radi back then ) to a wide variety of genres and bands ... from psytrance and chill over dark ambient and industrial up to various forms of metal (including the famous crazy finnish humppa metal ), rock, jazz, electronic even up to hiphop (couldn't believe it, always hated that) and indescriptible genres (Attwenger!)... So you can't really fix intelligence to a music genre ... rather measure intelligence by seeing how openminded the persons listening to music are... oh and +1 to the friendly metal people aswell ... most of them are ... although fights can take place when they are drunk enough, but they're never aggressive, evil fights but rather a good old fun beating to spice up the evening... you know, on the few chav "rave" (schranz techno, commercial trance and hardstyle) events I have been to I sometimes felt this kind of agoraphobia coming up in me ... it's like I can smell the aggression in the air and when there's a fight somewhere it's never cool but always emotionally aggressive, evil, biting ... you can sense the unfriendliness and aggression there ... it's horrible ... I don't wanna be there ... on metal or psy festies I feel a kind of warmth, a kind of comfort even if there are mosh pits or crazy dancers ... it's a good kind of aggression and not the type of explosive unfriendly cold I experienced on those chav raves...

I'd not say that there's a rule that persons who listen to more complex music are more intelligent. You can't strip it down that way. However, I'd agree that it has to do with some sort of brainwave state that affects the music you hear, something that goes deeper than mere taste, you know. It's some kind of partnership, so to say ... your mind state influences your musical preference and the music you hear influences your mindstate. And this goes beyond the simple "today I'm tired, so I listen to chill"-rules...

guys, I know this is from Blade I don't even find that acid line good, seriously! The acid line is NOT what I find so good in that track. I like the other stuff around the acid line! Nice progression

hey! Sample of track 3 me likes! Not bad. But the rest is not good. First track maybe. Rest crap. And track 8 is absolute I'm just grinning because I saw this coming

yeah, funny, isn't it?

OMG, guys, I totally forgot 12 Moons! Solid State meets all my criteria. Almost everything perfect on that one!

hey, thanks, this is good! I dunno why, but I always thought XV Kilist was crap ... glad to finally see it's not

1. Morning/Dark balance morning 2. Maximal/Minimal balance 75% minimal, 25% maximal 3. Trance/Techno balance rather more trance elements, but not of the overplayed crappy emo kind ... I'd say 2/3 trance, 1/3 techno 4. Genre balance 70% progressive, 20% house, 10% psy 5. BPM around 140 6. Signature surprise me! or not. not important. 4/4 is okay 7. Length around 8 to 10 minutes 8. Melodies Yes, please - but simple ones! Not much complexity, rather play with hidden melodies or melodies inside melodies, I love that. They should be simple and minimalistically crafted though. Best if the melodies themselves actually are ambient melodies (also played by an ambient synth and pad effects), just underlined with the bassline and kick... 9. Bassline rather sharp and driving, please 10. Percussion Status no sharp kick, rather dampen the kick a little ... but not too much... not too much focus on hihats either 11. Intro/Outro Intro rather short. Ambient pads and synth usage in the outro please. Bassline can after-resonate aswell. Magnetrixx - Gluonball has a wonderful outro... 12. Layers less is more, although I'd beg for a few well hidden ones 13. Build Ups/Climaxes not needed and if there are then no big ones please, more smaller ones are okay, more variety... 14. Twists/Breaks/Turns/Changes not too much please, a little is okay, I also like developing tracks 15. Spoken samples/Singing/Real Organs No real organs. Singing mostly ruins the track aswell, only fits on rare occasions. Spoken samples are okay, especially in a sci-fi or philosophical way. No drug madness stupidity please. Perfect synaesthesia color: blue-purple-red Tracks that fit my description the best: S-Range - Larger Plan S-Range - Morning Star Matenda - Perspectives Matenda - Lipo Mare Matenda - No Return Noma - Soon Atmos - Fill The Hat Etnoscope - Cloud Surfing Son Kite - Aiwana ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ME? (don't say Human Blue now, I know that already )

sounds good I'm curious how you'll do it ... I have a bit of a plan in my head, wanna know if you follow it

really? cool! I'd have a mix list: Noma - Soon Magnetrixx - Tohuwabohu Prisoners Of The Sun - Polen Peitsche S-Range - Fire Wire Prex - S4 Matenda - Pusher Matenda - Novo Jutro Setherian - Trust Me Kaempfer & Dietze - Waiting For Solar Fields - Kick Back S-Range - 2001 (in order) like it?

Ah, thanks for that remark. It's important to consider, even though this is no Ultimae release, but it's in that style... I guess I could live without flow, since there are breaks. Thanks. I'll think about it, at the moment I'm a bit short on cash anyway...

I do feel the same at least to an extent. I mean, I don't listen to that much goa (for these reasons), but still. It doesn't matter that much though because the market hasn't been flooded with the stuff as it is the case with full on music now. And I even like the "this sounds similar in a way"-syndrome, at least when it's not overused...

I downloaded, but I don't really get the video...

All S-Range, definitely All Etnoscope aswell. But I generally have the (to many people strange seeming) policy to NOT listen to the stuff a lot that I like When I really love some music I hardly ever listen to it because I find no situation worthy enough of such greatness! Carbon Based Lifeforms is the best example. I am a huge, an enormous fan, yet I listened to Hydroponic Garden (the best ambient album ever) maybe only fifteen times as of now. Funny, isn't it? But I have the fear that I might spoil a perfect piece of music through only the slightest different influence. In this context I'm beyond obsessive-compulsive! Only moderately good music gets played really often

Matenda. Definitively. I mean, on the other hand it's not even so bad he's underrated, this way he'll remain a kind of secret tip...

Now THAT is a genious one! Cheers for that link, I only knew the short video version...

hey, I feel exactly the same!

I don't like the song pseudo-emo trance (what's with all that pseudo-emo lately, seems like trancers lost their balls) with a try to "hip" it up with the minimalistic approach ... not for me please old Armin Van Buuren was better

different strokes for different folks, eh? I guess I'll have to see for myself, but I won't rush to buy it right now. Will approach with care. Just one question: is it mixed? Or are there breaks between the tracks?

Marketing won't make psy music that much more popular. People can't digest that, they stick to easy listening pop or - if anything electronic - cheap commercial trance. Think for a second. The average society individual out there who works 8 hours a day and comes home late in the afternoon has neither the time nor the nerve to check out underground music releases! Psychedelic music is mostly not digestive for these kinds of people. You'd just fuel the fire for all the cheap full-on and house-proggie to gain ground, but not the "real" psycedelic trance. I mean, I'd like the house-proggie to gain ground, but still, I wouldn't appreciate big marketing campaigns... yes.

whoops, wrong reasoning I think I know it now though *cough*

Aha! Much clearer now So the hack wasn't the reason, it was just a trigger. And now I actually think I understand the reasoning behind it - member X got banned (I think I know who it is) and is therefore suspected to have caused the attack and since member X was already an ex-member prior to that and has been suspected for these kinds of attacks already some times before the resulting conclusion was that this circle - ex member coming back, behaving badly (even if there's no reference to his prior identity), getting banned, being pissed off and attacking - will continue forever if nothing's changed. And now OT is closed and a rigid policy is established to let only trance talk take place on the forum and thus to prevent ex members causing havoc. Is that the reasoning (kinda)?

NOOO! A world falls apart for me! This was the ambient release I anticipated the most this year, would have ordered it right away if I had the money and now I hear it's not that good? Do you own Ease Division 1 or 2?

Ah, nice, so I finally found the thread where people discuss this ... I already thought about starting a new one What I find funny is, that just when I'm away for a few days or decrease activity, then something happens here. This is getting suspicious I mean, I still don't get what an attack has to do with closing the Offtopic (as far as I read up it has), but anyway...

Neil Gibson's works are indeed the best ones I know. I haven't seen them hanging on parties yet, I bet I'd freak out :posford: Gret respect to this man. Shocking that one of them got stolen The best deco team (IMO) that we have around here is Calaquendi, from the austrian countryside. Check out their backdrops: http://www.calaquendiart.com/paintings.htm Some of their "Atlantis Renaissance" theme (the first two) were hanging at an S-Range gig I remember