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I second that. But I don't know many ambient labels besides it

... I don't even like that kind of psytrance so much ... rather prefer it not-so-weird to avoid brain salad ... but it depends... I agree that to get seriously into classic I should start carefully with soft and easy stuff. But then I don't see the point why I should buy CDs of stuff that I actually don't like at the moment just to get into it? The concert was a test. And well, it was even better than I thought it to be (I even liked a tiny bit of it ), but the length of the concert and my attention slipping away in the later part and the occasional for me mentally undigestable sound salads turned it into a fatiguing session. That's the point where I learned that I can not digest classic. And that's the point where I stopped dissing classic, but having respect for the music and its listeners for they can comprehend what I can not.

Great thread! For me: 1. CDs that spinned in your CD-player the most (artist albums). Setherian - Multiverse; Son Kite - Colours; Quantum State - Subatomic Travellers; Etnoscope - Drums From The Dawn Of Time; S-Range - Space 2. CDs that spinned in your CD-player the most (compilations). Goa-Head 19; Sun Tribe 3; Check.In; 3. Best label. - 4. Live acts that impressed you the most. Quantum State; Silent Sphere; Magnetrixx & Morganixx; SUN-Project 5. Live acts that disappointed you. Logic Bomb 6. DJs sets that rocked your dancefloor. Feuerhake's set!!! 7. DJs sets that made you leave the dancefloor. when he plays fullon, I'm off - unless it's before the liveact, then I go watch deko 8. Best party. "Zart Besaitet" --- SUN-Project & Quantum State live! 9. Best festival. - 10. Best deco. MAE & MOA rocked BIG time! But Calaquendi had some really beautiful backdrops too! It's really hard to decide between the two ... but I must say from the awesomeness point of view Calaquendi was maybe a little better. On the other hand I was standing in front of Mae & Moa's backdrops with open mouth for a long time too ... really hard to decide... 11. Best drink/beverage. CIDER! From Sweden! No doubt about that. The only question is: which taste? The answer is: all of them, haha 12. Best drug/trip. - 13. Best moment/experience. That must be the trip to Sweden/Norway! I guess that was the best. It was my peak experience this year... 14. Worst moment/experience. There are several ones One of them has been the Logic Bomb party. Yes, that was one of the worst ones. Also emotionally. You know, psy parties always used to cheer me up and I always went home with a smile when I was the night out on psy - but not this time ... bad music (only one half of Logic Bomb was there - almost only DJ set (although live was promised), bad people (thieves, strange folk, aggressive folk too!), bad air AND bad mood ... I went there to get cheered up, not to get dragged down. That was really a shock for me. For years only good experiences and now that? The problem is, since that experience psy parties aren't what they used to be anymore. I dunno why ... some kind of trauma maybe? I'm very sensitive in that case 15. Best non-psy. KORPIKLAANI HUMPPA METAL CONCERT! YAAAY! In a cellar of an old former monastery, 2 floors down under the houses of the city! Deafening sound, awesome freaky people, sweating, headbanging ... the whole cellar was shaking! Maaan, this was THE blast!

Respect to those who like classical music. I don't ... but actually not because I don't like it but rather because my mind can not digest it. It sounds funny, I know ... and concerning film music I find classical music very nice (LOTR for example), but listening to it at home, like I do listen to ambient or psy, is not possible with me. My mother once gave me a ticket for a classical concert (she was going on a voyage and the ticket was expensive so she wanted me to go because otherwise it would have been for nothing) and I really went there although I knew I didn't like classic, but I wanted to give it a last chance - I was about to see the Austrian Philharmonic Orchestra (like The Journey Man ). Well, it didn't work, I didn't like it. I liked the calm parts, where only one or two violins or just very few instruments playing, there I can identify melodies and layers, that is okay. But then when the whole orchestra is playing it's just a sound salad in my head. And this got on my nerves soon and I so did not enjoy anything at all in the later half, it was rather fatiguing for me and I went home very tired from listening...

CBL boring? Harsh words. But I agree, concerning Norwegian Mountain landscapes I'd like to listen to anything but organic ambient like CBL or whatever. In fact, I wouldn't listen to psy at all I think. Mountain Ambient... Well, this is hard for me, you know. In the Norwegian Mountains I'd probably put on some dark ambient ... well, rather depressive than dark. Something like Vinterriket. Yep. Norwegian mountains in snowy mist and cold = Vinterriket! But that is probably nothing for you, Cinos ... except if you like your musical meal served ice cold and depressive. Hmmm... Okay, but I really could have something for you, Cinos. Wongraven is the band's name, Tiden Er En Stenlagt Grav is the song. Wongraven make other good songs, but that is probably one of their nicest. What I like about them is that their sound is not cold, but rather warm. Ideal to go to sleep and dream a bit of nordic nature - which is what I am doing to this music

S-Range - Space Carbon Based Lifeforms - Hydroponic Garden Etnoscope - Drums From The Dawn Of Time that's it yes, three is not much ... but nothing comes close to those - in my opinion

I partly agree with Ale ... there are already a bit too many labels out there. I mean, I have nothing against many labels - where there are many labels there is much competition to bring out better releases and that is a good thing! But I think that meanwhile it's getting too much, you know. And meanwhile they are cutting themselves in their own flesh in a way too, because there are only many little ones that all have very few money on their own which in the future can result in poor artist payment/ripping off, poor advertising, bad quality and whatever things. Don't get me wrong, I prefer a big variety of labels, but come on, is it really necessary to have SO many? If some labels with similar style and who get along well with each other would join themselves to one greater "label group" or something like that they would be able to share their work, combine their experiences, organize things better, work more efficiently and they would also surely be able to raise more funds for better advertising, artist payment and quality. And if two or three labels would come for each "label group" I say we'd still have enough labels!

since I don't have a credit card (which would most likely be required to download the mp3s) and can not get one unless I get a job and have a secured income for me right now there are just 2 options: buying it at market price or pirating. I choose to pirate.

I think it's great The idea of putting Bush as leader and whatever shit (isn't one of the helmets a darth vader one?) on it and then calling the album "bloody reality" is really cool IMHO ... more intelligent than most common anti-bush shit out there...

It depends. I would put in a classical tune (don't laugh) for half a minute or so - the Donauwalzer for example ... this is played all over our country on new year's eve - I have once been on a techno party right at the nye moment and they really put this tune in! But you should interrupt the classic shit after thirty seconds with something cool. Maybe with the "Ich unterbreche ungern eure Freizeit, Jungs..."-sample of Zerotonine - Der Exot, but that's probably too little killargh for you. Or wait, I guess I'd pick Son Kite - The Stars Within Us ... and I'd tune in right at the "...... now real drums and now music!" sample... But if you want more killargh you could pick Man With No Name - The First Day (climax begins at 4:20) to interrupt the classical thingie .. or even without classical thingie, just as you like. Or Space Buddha - Acid Prophecy (super climax 5:40) for even more killarrrgh! I guess I'd pick Space Buddha! dRove me to exhaustion as I let it play during a running session...

guess what! S-RANGE!!!!!!!! come on, you asked for it other psy/ambient all-timers are: Etnoscope Carbon Based Lifeforms Makyo

absolutely seconded for Neuromotor

löl, fine I still had to search for it on p2p for a long time back then until I got it It's great stuff. Everybody that likes ambient and doesn't know CBL should give a listen to that... My favourite track is Or Plan B

all crap except Psytisfaction 3 ... the snake's mouth ... lol... and NT's parody goes without words, this is genious Psytisfaction 3 is actually pretty ... cool... IMHO

haha, no, the series isn't dead at all, it's alive and still kicking to open your ears for some nice tracks! (info check there: http://www.abella.de/4025905604227/Various...+Vol.21/CD/MUL/ ) I am really satisfied with goa-head, I buy the newest one each christmas and haven't been disappointed in any way. Goa-Head is the only popular compilation series available that did NOT go fullon! The first CD of the new one seriously can rock your livingroom if you're in the mood for it. And the second CD is for progressive likers a good pick. Never have been disappointed by any Goa-Head. Then again, I have only four of them. But I definitely want to get more. Especially the newer ones. This compilation rocks!

Man, this looks absolutely awesome. I like it MUCH better than the first Filteria album cover. And also MUCH better than the one that DP says it refers to. Maan ... I thought I'd not buy another Filteria, as this style is too strong for me, but now I heard that the new album will have a different type of sound and then this cover ... maybe maybe And, mister Lawrance ... according to your arrogant posts concerning this and the other cover topic I assume you must know many many "better" covers than the ones posted here? I'd be curious to actually see some of those...

Goa-Head 21 my own christmas present

dude ... this cannot be ... I saw Goa Head 20 in SATURN here! SATURN, THE most commercial store in our country! Where you can find Bravo Hits and Super Dance and whatever shit, there you can find it! Meanwhile Goa Head 21 is out and they got like 10 copies of it in the shelves...

Björn Lynne is one of my favourite artists he has something for everyone from fantasy music over ambient over space music up to psychedelic and he also composed the music to the Worms game series it's good that people on here know him, I didn't expect that

okay, I could be wrong on this, but I think that "feat." means that one famous seperate artist is part of another less recognized project - like CON-Sequencer feat. Milque -> Milque is in Con-Sequencer! And not only for one track but for all the time (meanwhile they killed the "feat. Milque" out of their name because he's a full time member of the project). And the term "vs." means that two equally famous artists got together to do just one track or two - like S-Range vs. Selective Memory ... they only did one track together: "Tricky". On the other hand there's this S-Range feat. Z-Man thing and they also have done just one track Arrrgh, I don't know ... but I think the "feat."-thingy marks, that a famous artist joined a not-so-famous project or somewhat. And maybe it's reverse, that the more famous artist is stated at the beginning and after the feat. there's the less recognized one? And in "vs." they're both equally famous whatever...

guilty pleasures ... yeah, I have some Now it's Carlos Peron - Der Komtur (Kreuzritter I/II) ... anybody remembers as this has been in the charts? Lol, I never listened to it back then but just a week ago I began to totally dig it as I rediscovered it ... that dude that speaks the german vocals has such an AWESOME voice, killarrrgh!!! This summer one has been Papi Sanchez - Enamorame ... I mean, I hate the dude rapping, but I like the chorus. Seriously. I liked that song because of the chick singing the chorus - just from the point of singing, you know, I don't even know how she looks like. The only point is, that it became overplayed by me and now I don't like it so much anymore... Another one is NOFX - Bob ... I hate punk rock or whatever Nofx are, but this song is great: "It's been 15 years gettin' loaded, 15 years until his liver exploded - now what's Bob gonna do now that he can't drink?" ... come on, a song that begins so funny can't be bad can it? Guano Apes I like too ... but only the Don't Give Me Names album ... the reason why is that as I was in Scotland with class they often put this CD in in the bus because we didn't have many other good ones and now when I hear it I get reminded of Scotland... And I like ALL retro stuff, no matter how cheesy it is - but keep in mind: MY retro is NOT what is officially labeled as "retro" ... with retro I mean the music I was into as I have been pre-teen to teen-age and that ranges from Wes - Alane over Vertigo and DJ Quicksilver up to Paul Van Dyk and DJ Tiesto and Mauro Picotto and whatever (yes, you know I have been into that stuff) ... all before the psy era is already retro in a way to me because my mind has developed into another state where this music is not the right one anymore, it's just a reflection of the past. And I like Metal. And a bit of gothic. And a bit of industrial. And medieval ambient. But I would not refer to any of these as "guilty pleasure"...

Alex, you work too much you should chill and I will check out that track...

pffft... I never heard of Psynina and I don't give a flat f*ck about if she exists or not ... but if you ask for an opinion then I'd say that maybe the threadstarter is the guy behind the project and put up some pics of his ex girlfriend and now wants to make publicity... And btw, I don't think that an artist who is obviously not well known (since apparently very few people have heard of her) can get such super deals for playing at parties with hotel for free and such... I smell a huge load of bs here ... phewww, actually maybe elephant-shit would match better...

Congratulations, Nemo! Best wishes to you and your family

YAY, I have been to the record fair! And thanks to the infos I got here I have found some Tangerine Dream stuff and a KITARO double vinyl ! I guess I'd not have taken the stuff if I didn't have gotten the recommendations YAY, YAY, YAY! Thanks again