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On 7/28/2020 at 11:25 AM, Padmapani said:

maybe it's going back into fashion soon. at least there's a recent remix of it that captures the essence of the track pretty well (even though it's from captain hook).

 

damn, that was nice!! he is really good at truly remixing an artists style I must say. He did very well with Hallucinogen too, even if that wasnt really a remix, it kinda was.

edit: except i didnt think the 303 fit at all. but other than that it is really good.

 

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3 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:

 Btw this got me curious, so on your DAW's mixer, do you have several channels for each note of the bassline? Or do you route them all to a group channel/bus? :) 

i have one channel per note of the bassline (sometimes plus extra-channels for notes overlapping with the kick) all routed to one bass bus, which is then routed to the knb bus.

1 hour ago, recursion loop said:

For these I somehow manage to get by with just one synth channel, using broadband cuts and boosts and trying to find a phase sweet spot so that the phase wouldn't be completely off at any of the notes. Filter keytracking also helps getting consistent sound across different  notes. 

i often do a boost at the second harmonic and a cut at the fifth on the bassline. if the notes change these eq bands are off and the sound isn't as clean. thanks for mentioning keytracking. i haven't really thought about that before for the bassline.

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1 hour ago, astralprojection said:

damn, that was nice!! he is really good at truly remixing an artists style I must say. He did very well with Hallucinogen too, even if that wasnt really a remix, it kinda was.

edit: except i didnt think the 303 fit at all. but other than that it is really good.

 

maybe that because he's he is good technically but usually just making boring empty track that don't have much style of their own, so the original style shines through in every remix. ;)

agreed. the acidline was better in the original.

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11 minutes ago, Padmapani said:

i have one channel per note of the bassline (sometimes plus extra-channels for notes overlapping with the kick) all routed to one bass bus, which is then routed to the knb bus.

I routinely do the same thing, also boosting/cutting harmonics in similar manner as you said - but that's for the bassline that doesn't envisage many key changes and especially if bpm is 140 or below. Multi-note basslines with octave jumps and key changes at faster tempos (like 145 bpm) don't really need that. 

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Just now, recursion loop said:

I routinely do the same thing, also boosting/cutting harmonics in similar manner as you said - but that's for the bassline that doesn't envisage many key changes and especially if bpm is 140 or below. Multi-note bassline with octave jumps and key changes at faster tempos (like 145 bpm).don't really need that. 

i still do it with basslines with octave jumps at 150 bpm :)

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AstralSphinx    109

This style of psy was really cool I think and this track and the compilation it was featured on impressed me back in the year 2000.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Lunar-Civilization/release/83307

Wizzy Noise - Shores Of Freedom

Is it prog or regular psy? Very nice groove to my ears, whatever it is. When I heard this and some of the contemporary stuff on Flying Rhino I think, I remember that it struck me that ooh all that old goa with indian themes and oriental melodies is a thing of the past now. :D Little did I know that goa would make a strong comeback a couple of years later.

There was of course some exceptiona to this and some now classic goa tunes were released around 2000. But it was kind of in the air, it was on it's way out.

 

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AstralSphinx    109

Also good, mid 2000's Iboga:

 

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53 minutes ago, technosomy said:

THIS

Air-Born was such a great VA. I Love Biological Manipulation, License to Slink, Slinky WizardThe Wizard (KoxBox Remix), and the rest as well. :) This compilation has a very distinct touch of the VA sound to me, it sounds like a lot of Nord Lead was used on some of the tracks.

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22 hours ago, Padmapani said:

 

agreed. the acidline was better in the original.

The first acid line just stuck out like a sore thumb, that one "off" note doesn't fit the groove to me. But the 7min acid was great and more fitting. And also close to the original. Great track tbh. 

 

So you process not different parts of the bassline, but different notes? That's probably why then, your basslines sound so freaking thick. I'm gonna try that next time.

@recursion loop

You also process each individual note? Damn, I guess that's the way to do it then :)

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