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Yeah I have the other one too (BUG12 001), also by Alien, but I haven't submitted it yet. It has the same artwork style.

Yeah I have catalogue numbers and artists for all of them, it's jsut track names and names of the mixes that are tricky. I can probably work it out if I just put some effort into it, but I barely even have time to listen to everything I buy, so I've been laying low with the Discogs submissions lately. I occasionally post an update here and there from work when I'm doing some leisure surfin', but I should really start submitting all my weird records...

I paid 6 euro, but I bought it before there was this craze about it. As soon as I heard about its existence I started searching and found several copies online (3 or 4 I think). So I bought the cheapest one. I would guess at least 500 were made, but that it had weird distribution and never got any serious attention from the trance scene, which would explain why not a single place I saw it was a techno or trance store. I bought it from a generic second hand store. It's a pretty crappy album IMHO, so it flew under the radar for a very very long time. During this time the existing copies probably ended up in all sorts of basement second hand stores and bargain bins.

I don't recall this myself, but if I remember (not likely), I'll check when I get home tonight. I don't have a rip of the CD though so I can't compare, but the track ends abruptly you say? In a way that would be obvious even to someone who haven't heard the CD version?

Very true, BUT - they're whitelabel test pressings with no tracklists! Even if I know the track names, they're sometimes in different versions that the ones that ended up getting released, so I need to figure out what the mixes are called, etc... and I have maybe 100 records to submit in total, and these blue room rarities are in the middle of the pile. Yeah that rules! Me, my girlfriend, Stormbringer and his girlfriend get together every once in a while and take turns playing one track each - the rule is that you need to match the previous track somehow - it can be by style or track name or whatever. We all bring 30 records each and in ANY style. Nothing is too extreme! You get to hear sooo mych cool music during these nights, stuff you'd never hear otherwise. Some pictures from one of these events (in my & my girlfriends appartment): August 13th, 2005 To avoid total threadjack: One very very rare CD is this. Mine has a scratch in the last track though =(

For the stuff listed on Discogs, I'm missing 28 items (remember that I'm going for EVERYTHING, both vinyl & CD). So it's certainly within reach! I know of 2 more that I don't have that aren't listed, and I have a few I need to submit. Out of the ones listed on Discogs I have 126, plus two that are exclusive to Blue Room Americas, and then these ones I still have to submit (3 or 4 I think).

Haha =) It sold for 83 pounds, I think? I felt it was worth it - I very very rarely pay that much for anything, so doing it just this once felt totally OK. I submitted it to Discogs November 8th, 2004.

Whaaaaat?! Someone found 1000 copies? Is there a joke in here I'm not getting? With 30 seconds left I thought "naah, better up it by another 7 euro just to be sure", and OF COURSE ebay doesn't load fast enough! It's bloody always fast, except this time. Very frustrating... That IS one of the more hard-to-find Trans'Pact vinyls. I was amazed at how "low" Transwave ended though, I wouldn't have been surprised by 50+ pounds (or whatever the currency was).

I wantlisted some of their output a while back, and that label is one I will be checking out this spring... But I haven't heard anything, so I have no idea what it's like. I'll probably just grab one or two 12" to start with and see if it's something I'm willing to research further. But as always, money is the issue - I could probably spend $1000 a day!

When I finally decided to start DJ'ing, some of the people I got to know at parties were starting to arrange parties of their own. Since they knew me as a person and since I offered to play for free I got my first bookings. After each of the first 3 or 4 gigs there were huge threads on some swedish forums with praise, which got other organisers interested in me. I haven't worked on markening myself much at all, and now I just play 5-8 parties every year. Once I raised my fee beyong 50 euro the mails stopped coming, so many organisers are very reluctant to pay for the performers... which I find weird, as the music should be the most important thing. Instead they let their often untalanted and newbie friends play, and as a result the parties suck. But since I was also a "free friend DJ" once, maybe I shouldn't be the one complaining... =) But at least I had started organising parties 6 years before I started DJ'ing, so I had some experience. A lot of DJs today were never normal partygoers, they went straight to DJ'ing and have no understanding for the dancefloor experience.

Well, some of us collect BOTH cd and vinyl... =) There's been an avalanche of new CD collectors on ebay recently, but it's calming down again now it seems. But while this has been going on, I've skipped the bidding wars and tried to complete vinyl stuff instead - no point in fighting over a CD that shows up once a month - I'm sure patience will pay off. Anything commercially released will come up again some day. One label I've been working on somewhat is Trans'Pact, where only 7 vinyls remain now, and several of them are easy to find so I guess it's just a matter of time. I already have the trickiest ones. I think I will have it completed (vinyl-wise) during 2006. On it's sub-label Subliminal I'm missing 2 vinyls (S.04 and S.10). I think Doss-House was also a sublabel of Trans'Pact, but that one is complete now. Other complete labels are Celtic, Inter 1 (HAH! I have 009!!!), and Helix Records (well, won the final CD last night so it's not here yet). And several "mini-labels" of course. Nearly complete is Alien Reign (fairly unknown and VERY underrated label), Aquatec (missing the last compilation on vinyl), 21-3, and High Society (missing 7 CDs but I have all the vinyls). I'd love to complete a label like Matsuri, and I only need a few more of the vinyls, but the CDs... damn! So mych of the later stuff is musically uninteresting that I'm reluctant to spend the money there yet. I'll rather go for the stuff that is both collectable and musically rewarding. On TIP I'm getting very close to 100% completion now, but sadly the hugely over-priced beyond colour CD is still missing from my collection (and a few others). The price on that one has to go down soon... I'm also hoping to get the worlds only 100% complete Blue Room Released collection, but it's practically impossible - there are several 6-copies-only items (test pressing vinyls that were cancelled) still not on Discogs, of which I'm missing 2 or so. I have some to submit. Dragonfly and Transient won't be complete for a LONG time since their 21st century CD output is uninteresting to me. But I'm very close to having all their 1990's vinyl at least. My current collection projects are for unknown labels that were never really known in the goa scene, but that have a goa sound. Some of them are very very expensive though, and I'm trying to cut back on the collector expenses in favour of other types of music (and an upcoming more to a new appartment).

This reply is not a smart move from me since Lazar runs a club and it might be a good idea to maintain a friendship with him if I want to get more gigs here in Sweden, I just have to say this: Yes, that album is 100% horrendous. I was sadly "forced" to do the design for it, and I actually managed to listen to it once. But I will never ever do it again. He's a nice guy and all, but the music... it has even less to do with trance and psychedelia than full-on does, which is quite something. It boggles my mind how anyone could sit down and actually produce that stuff, and then release it. I know he appreciates some oldschool stuff, which makes me even more confused... It was released in 2004 though =)

Seeing as David works as a teacher and the spring term has begun now, I would expect that he's back in Uppsala. For what it's worth, I have occasionally had touble with e-mail replies from him/them, but I've never had a record delayed more than a day or three. They're not scamming anyone.

See, Jellyfish ARE the next big thing =) This one, my new Filteria design, and this...

Can't remember, sadly. Give google a go and I'm sure it'll turn up eventually.

I know at least one person who owns El Pistolero, and when I first heard about it I did some searching, and was able to find it quite easily. Never ordered it, though. I have a CD copy (which proves nothing, I know) but some day I'll track down a proper one.

Sorry to be a nitpick, but Alien Protein came out in 1996... And my memory tells me Phosphorescent didn't hit store shelves until 1997, even though it's often referred to as a 1996 album. I could be wrong there though - anyone have a press release for it? It should make the list regardless of year though. I'd like to remove Bible of Dreams from the list and instead add Beyond The Infinite (1996) and Transmissions (1993), as already mentioned by several people. Also, for 1994 the first Order Odonata must be included! The importance of this compilation is immense. I think Prana - Cyclone deserves a mention as well, even though it was a bit of a compilation album like TIP's Feeling Weird. Prana were big and important enough to warrant a mention. The israeli scene gets very little mention in the early years, but perhaps the Indoor album is worth listing? Poor distribution outside of Israel deterred from it's impact, but it's still a huge album.

I'm quite sure it's real. EMI licensed a bunch of JR tracks and made some sort of weird greatest hits album, possibly for Nice Price or something similar. But Discogs DOES list bootlegs, too - check this.

With all due respect, I think you're way off here. I have a fair amount of israeli stuff from the 95-98 era, and the truly psychedelic elements evident in this track are nowhere to be found in those records. In terms of sounds and production it might be Israeli, but the composition is way more Australian, French, or even Swedish. MFG had plenty of unique trademark sounds and arrangement quirks in 96-98, and I can't hear those in this. But perhaps there was an underground Israeli scene with this sort of stuff that never got released? Seeing as how pretty much every single crap track from that country got pressed to CD I kinda doubt it, though.

Sorry for replying to this thread so late, but I've been travelling... Several people PM'ed me asking for help with this one, but sadly I don't think this is a released track. At least I've never heard it before. But I can only agree - this is AMAZING! It's not Etnica/Pleiadians I'm quite sure, but I'm guessing it might actually be australian - I have another unreleased track from about 1997 that is in this style, and it's from australia. But I don't know who made that one either...

So you're saying that the context in which you get exposed to music cannot/will not affect your relation to said music? That context can't add to the experience in a way that will shed new light on the music afterwards? Fantastic.

Did I claim to be elite? Oh please. However, to totally dismiss the effect partying has on the way you percieve this type of music without having been to a single psy-trance party, is very narrow-minded and foolish.

Well, the only thing resembling a fractal here is perhaps some small "vortices" (thats plural of vortex), but they're barely visible at all on the front. And yes, they're made from photos. The oak-style patterns on the first album is actually flowers though. I chose to use "real" stuff as basic material for both album designs since this is music made with analogue synthesizers - for all-digital/software music you may be better off with 3D or photoshop-filter generated graphics, but doing it that way looks too sterile for this music IMHO.

Yeah you would know.

Again, it's not fractals. Do people even know what fractals are? I'm sorry to hear you dislike this so much, but I was personally not very excited about the Khetzal design, so tastes differ. Although I doubt you'll change your opinion completely, I think this needs to be seen in a bit higher resolution to be judged fairly.