Purple Sunray

no spotify-like streaming, but webradio: love http://www.psytube.at/ http://www.schizoid.in/ is also nice but way less channels and playlist doesn't change that often as on psytube

It's because of the nature of trance music, it's made to dance =) Every genre follows certain pattern and rules. Trance, or in general edm is design to be 'dancable'. I can't say much about rock music, but they for sure don't think a lot about how people will dance to this track while composing it. It's more about lyrics, melodies and accords, while a trance producer will be much more focused on rythms an athmosphere of a track. That also kind of explains already why some only hear BOM BOM when listening to trance, while others only hear ugly e-guitar noise when listening to rock. If you are used to pay to attention to lyrics and melody and you suddenly switch to a genre that has much less focus on it, you will find it boring. What you hear first is the most prominent part of the track.. the BOMBOM on trance. That's same the way arround. I don't listen to rock at all and never did. If there is some on the radio or so I just find it boring.. there are the same 4 instruments playing on every track, no driving rythms and I don't care about the lyrics. A verry good example is traditional chines music - if you'r a europian or american. They'r using different musical scales than your music does. If your are listening to such a track you only hear random bling bling that doesn't sound harmonic or melodic at all, while for chines ppl this is perfeclty harmonic - because they are used to. And about the first question.. what you need to do to be danceable/grovy. Listen to some of your trance tracks and find out on your own 1 kickdurm ever 1/4 bar, with 1 to 3 bass-notes in between, a closed hihhat playing on every kick, a snare drum on every second kick ... btw. you can even see this 'used to' effect inside that tiny psytrance community already. I can't have goa at all, because I never really listened to it. Coming from the oldshool trance/techno scene.. so I rather think.. go use that sound spectrum from 20Hz to 18kHz and impress me, not interested on your glitchy acid linies - while others hate this inflated fullon type of sounds.

so please tell where i can find it.. the start menu. That list of folders with company names, and applications, handbocks, uninstallers and that shit in it. On one screen, scrollable with my mounswheel and so on.. cant' find it

DP is speaking half the truth. This approach works verry good for IT and eletronic stuff or if you'r a sales/markting/travel guy. Go code some fancy cool new app-thing and put it online somehwere. Companies on the same business will come after you to ask you working for them without you networking at all. You don't even need to signup on LinkedIn... if you do so you get even more jobspam. But it doesn't work for 'normal'ppl. What kind of business network do you have if you'r selling burger or cleaning up the toilet? Yeah.. I'm sure the burger king general manager will message you immedialy if he sees that you quit on mc'dondals

wait for 8.1 (think will be released arround oct/nov this year). There the start button will be back because of all the ppl complaing about.. but still not the start-menu as known from win7... just the button Go get http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php as there seems to be no away arround this big-icon-touchscreen shit also if you'r on a desktop.. hugs to microsoft for this.. -.-

https://soundcloud.com/irrsin/item-nn don't even try to listen to it on headphones.. will get the dust out of your sub... ;D

omg isratrance.. with all the pros it's like posted above.. you will never get a wrestling superstars to post that's all fake and doesn't even hurt... in fear of nobody watching him anymore, better shitstrom the f*ck out of that ignoraums xD

Why? Entertainment. Like actors, playback artists, or wresting superstars. Some overdo it, like everywhere, but doesn't hurt me as I know that this is a fake liveshow anyhow. If some acid fraggles like to watch psykovskys show while dancing - great - just don't assume that anything he is doing there relates to the music played currently. But that's valid for almost all artists and actually it's fun to watch those guys if you are not there to listen to live-created music, but to listen to the music of a certain artist while watching his live-show. And about the $$$... Live-artists aren't more expensive than DJs because it's way more difficult to push "start" on Live than on Traktor... they cost more because they have spend way more time on it than a DJ beforehand. Releasing Psy MP3's is no goldmine at all, but creating professional sound is a fulltime job. So how should they make their living if they get the same fee for their liveact as the hobby-DJ from the neighbor-town, that has a nice job and spends 2h per week on making music, not 40h like the producer. Ofc it's disappointing to expect a psytrance live performance and than to find out that is a fake.. but hey man, that's nothing new, you just found out pretty late.

What does make the difference? To me it couldn't care less if he is opening the phaser on a pre-recorder transition, or if he is moving the fader at the same time. It's about what music comes out ofthe speakers.. hate hard-tek sound, but the good thing on such parties is that you usually don't see the DJ, just a big wall of speakers. Nobody cares about the DJ, but about what sound he is playing. I'm still interested to know if one is playing live or DJ'ing, but for me "live" doesn't mean that he is pushing a bass-knob about 600 times per second, while playing a synth-riff on the other hand. It simply means that he is playing self-created sound, while a DJ mixes tracks of others. I don't connect the term "live" with playing anything live, but more of... using Ableton "Live" *g* Good or a bad thing? ... no real option I would say. You can't play psytrance live, that just doesn't work. There needs to be something prepared beforehand. As a 'live' act ppl except you to play your sound, so you don't have the freedom of a DJ with 1k tracks on the HDD you can select from, unless you are a very very productive producer. So what's the point in mixing in 10 tracks in row every weekend? Go record it, do some fx on top and dance with your knobs if you like. Perfectly fine.. he spend a lot of the time already making that sound and mixing isn't really required as he has no real choice of what to play.

Well, the good thing about is that google is verry pro-active on this. The GPU rendering / overflow flaw I know about was found during a hacking contest. The hacker got 50k$ from google for finding it and they fixed it immediately before any malware coder was able to abuse it Quite a difference to Adobe, Microsoft & co usually trying to keep security issues secret (what doesn't work btw.. ;D )

I use chrome inside sandboxie Yes, chrome already has a sandbox, but some freaks already managed to break out, so it's kind of an additional safety net. Use it as it is very convenient during daily work, you don't really notice sandboxie other then yellow frame, so why not.. better than filling the HDD with malware over time IMHO browsing with a non-sandboxed browser is like PC suicide.. it's not only about files that are stored in the cache or cookie folder, but also about the malware using bugs on plugins or the browser itself. Buffer overflows, unsafe APIs, whatever.. there was a demo some time ago, showing how you can run own code by loading a modified/corrupted png on the internet explorer... doesn't need any user download, just load a page with that pic (hello facebook & co). If you wanna get 100% safe though you need to get rid of windows. Know some ppl running Ubuntu Linux as host OS that auto-starts VMware with windows inside. So if any malware like a keyloger finds it way onto windows, the host is still safe - it won't log anything if you enter your credit card on the Ubuntu browser or a clean windows VM. But that's too much paranoia to me.. there is just no way I gonna fiddle around with all my sound, development, games, .... tools inside a virtual machine^^ it's slow enough running natively already..

no specific order: Looney Moon Records Bom Shanka Music Nano Records Hadra Records Sangoma Records Osom Music Noise Pioson Records

hate this bullshit.... Lifestylekiddy: "oh.. you are producing electronic music? cool, what kind?" Me: "psytrance" Lifestylekiddy: "nice, it's that gangnam thing isn't it?" -.-

In theory yes - in practice nobody really knows.. Bad/Unreadable sectors are not that uncommon on hardware level. Means the laser tries to read a sector on the disc and delivers some data, the firmware compares it with the CRC (checksum) and detects that the data just read is not correct. So the firmware will move the laser to same sector as before and try to read again. The number of how often the drive will try to re-read is more or less left to the manufacturer and that's the important point C2 kicks in as soon as the laser gives up. So drive A might do 100 tries on failed reads and does C2 afterwards. Your CD is pretty bad and so it needs 24h to rip as it need reads every sector 99 times (but at the end the result is correct). Now let's switch from geek to to the marketing guru role.. "Gogo!! buy that new drive B!! It's incredible fast! Does your 24h rips in less than 1h!!".. that's the marketing slogan. "Go do C2 right after first failed read and don't lose time with re-reads! C2 interpolated WAV's are way enough for Justin bieber" is the development task ;D (hope you get what i mean *g*)

No. ECC relies on additional information to restore lost data, C2 does a guess what lost data could be. Not going into mathematics here, so very simple example: you have 3 signal values: 10,20 and 30. Value 2 can't be read anymore from the CD as it is broken. With ECC there are some more bits on the disc than just this 3 values - using this bits and some doing some math on with will allow you to find out that value 2 was 20. If it was possible to run this math, the result will be correct. C2 works without this additional information. It looks at 10 and 30 and does a guess what that value in between could be. It will most likely report 20 too, so both were able to correct the error, but if the second value was 29 instead of 20, C2 will most likely present you a wrong value compare to the original. That's the reason why you turn off C2 when using EAC - you can't say for sure if this value is correct or not -- while you don't care much about ECC or other correction algorithms that are able to correctly restore your data (as you know that is correct )

probably going to get some flames for not having any goa on the lineup.. but anyhow.. 12:00-16:00 - Stomping melodic psy-prog (day.din style) 16:00-22:00 - Slow and deep psytrance (mental braodcast style) 22:00 - 02:00 - Full-on - as much bumping as ever possbile 02:00 - 04:00 - Night Psy - getting twisted 04:00 - 06:00 - High-Tech.. the ev0l stuff arround 180 06:00 - 10:00 - Morning fullon 10:00 - 12:00 - Chillout if it ends, otherwise some psy-dub, psyrock / livestuff

great work all.. love it =)

> Good to hear it coming from someone who worked for a company for recording cd/dvd software Ey man.. i coded that shit for years.. still having nightmares if I hear about C2 n'stuff

As said.. more expensive doesn't always mean better quality, worst case you get the exactly same hardware again, but more expensive because re-labled by a more popular brand^^ but can't really give you a tip, I'm out of that business since quite some time But you only need a better drive if either EAC reports read errors, or you don't have the time to wait for hours because EAC needs to read every sector 100 times until it succeeded^^

EAC is exact audio copy, or? If so, you should know why you need to turn C2 off if I tell you that C2 is the "fancy interpolation" mentioned above On ripping there are 3 parts involved: the CD, the drive and the software. On the CD there is your audio data and stuff like CRC checksums to verify if read data is correct and there might ECC to restore lost data. The drive reads the disc. Good drives might just be able to correctly read everything and EAC makes an exact 1:1 copy of what's on your CD. But there might be also stuff on the disc that can't be read correctly by the drive. In this case there are a couple of things going to still get this data. First the drive will try to read sector again, and again and again (what slows down ripping of such CDs too) until it decides to give up. Next is to try to restore the data using ECC, if any. If this was not possible, there is no more way to restore the data and EAC will tell you if it found such samples and where. At least it did in the past. C2 now comes on top of that (runs on the drive). It looks at samples before and after the missing one and interpolates. It make a guess what this value could be and reports it up to the ripping application. That's also why you need to turn it off when using EAC. If it would be enabled, EAC would have no chance in detecting corrupt data, the drive will just do C2 and report some interpolated values instead of the real one. So no, with EAC you should have no quality loss, as it either reads what's on the disc, or doesn't - as you wrote, C2 is off, so no guessing about what it could be. Instead it will try to read the sector multiple times, what makes ripping slow, but if one of those read operations was successful you have the original data.

oh.. erm.. can some admin move this to the music production section pls? selected wrong forum <.<

Hey all. Inspired out of an other thread, I'm starting this one - it's about playing DJ-sets in the same way most Live acts perform. First to give an overview about what it actually is: It's basically using the Ableton Live Clip-mode to play DJ sets. You can think of it like being a big sampler you pre-load with tracks, cuts or even midi to control a synth. During performing you start those clips, mix it, overlay it or simply use to skip or re-order pieces of a track. Just to give an example - typical psytrance track has an intro, 1# buildup, #1 clipmax, break, 2# buildup, #2 clipmax, outro. You import and wrap this track on Ableton Live, cut it in pieces that match the pattern above and create single clips out of it. So if you are going to play that track you can decide how you want to play it, you can control the order and number of clips played. E.g. you feel like that break shouldn't play now, but you want to continue with #2 buildup right after the #1 clipmax. Doing so is possible, you just need to trigger the #2 buildup clip as the #1 climax ends, instead of the break clip. That's the basic setup, ofc possibilities are endless as you are within a DAW, so doing custom edits of the tracks, overlay it with own synths, fx or whatever is pretty straight forward if you have some idea about audio production already. I will post a video guide on how to do that in detail for ppl interested as soon as I get my mic working with the screen capturing software... <.< (any recommendations? freeware pls.. ) For now I would be just curios to hear your opinion about this kind of DJ'ing. I personally must say that I really started to love it. A DJ interacts with the crowd by selecting the right tracks, although with this method you can also decide about story of the track itself. Often had the problem with traditional DJ tools that there is a track I want to mix - transition fits perfectly mixing during first buildup, but the climax that comes after just doesn't really fit the "flow" of the previous sound, too dark, melodic, glitchy, whatever, but the second climax would fit perfectly. On normal tools you have to play that piece if you didn't prepared a DJ-edit beforehand or move the cue the second buildup. With the Live method you can change it as you want. I know there are mixed feelings about.. ranging from "wtf.. why the hell are you cutting around in some other artists work??? keep the tracks like they are and just mix it ffs, they are not yours!" up to "really like that kind of setup, just has a more consistent flow / you notice kind of the same style/pattern from beginning to the end, also if the sound itself completely differs" So.. what's your opinion?

It does. Worked for company doing CD/DVD recording software for some years and had todo with a lot of different drive manufactures, and it's like everywhere... You can't expect a drive, where the pickup hardware costs 0.2$ to work same like the one with the 5$ laser. There must be something why one is soo cheap and the other isn't.. not saying that the quality of the hardware has anything to do with price you pay for it on the store. "Losing quality" however is not really possible. Either the drive can read the bits, can't but is able restore it via ECC, or it can't. The restore via ECC (error correction code) is lossless, if it was successful you get original value, no down-sampled or whatever modified version of the sample, so there is no quality loss, just needs more time during ripping. If you don't get any data, the problem solving is up the ripping software and most just stop the ripping, as you can't really restore the missing pieces. You could do any kind of fancy interpolation stuff if there are only some single samples missing, but usually it has just no sense to continue if you run into reading a corrupted block unless you just skip it (than you rip will sound like playing a CD on the old car-cd-player without anti-shock while driving offroad =) )

Interesting^^ that microfilm thing actually makes a lot of sense