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I was so busy this year, I almost missed everything ... everything except the new Etnoscope - Way Over Deadline album. Interestingly it has ten tracks ... hehe ... so practically you could say it's my top ten 2010 ... but that would be a poor statement still, listen to this, pure awesomeness: http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtCN2-HSF3E

This is an interesting thread, because I can't think of any "IFO"'s of other genres. It could be that I just don't know enough about some of them, but all the other genres I have come across out there so far never had a single piece that was so much in focus as IFO is in goatrance. Sure, you have some of the usual group of bands and such to define a genre, but there never is a single piece that a whole genre can attach to. And even though some people dislike IFO, it still is the focus point in the goatrance scene. I'll keep an eye out for that from now on, I find it very interesting...

thanks for the warning, man Yeah, the cord is actually ridiculous. More fit of inears than real headphones... I will take care. People worried about the cord should get the standard edition in black, you trade fancy colors against a better cord. But since I found a cheap store where the LE were almost the same price as the regular, I decided for the fancy color...

GOD FRICKEN DAMN, I am the man! Some days ago I remembered the sound of this act and forgot the name. And it fricken annoyed the heck out of me. I searched EVERYWHERE! Tons of backcatalogues of all dark ambient labels I know. Until I remembered "maybe I posted it here". And so I began searching through the posts here. AND I FOUND IT! Thank you, RTP from fricken 2 years ago, you made my day. Today!

AKG K-518 LE In some reviews, people say their sound is too much focused on bass. I, however, love them. They needed a bit of playtime to get really good sound, at the beginning I got almost headaches, but after two weeks, that's completely gone. Now nothing beats listening to progressive on them. Bass output on some (Panzar Produktionz ) stuff is downright massive! I had Sony MDR-V150 before (still use them) ... they feel like a bee humming compared to a jet engine that the AKG are. Plus AKG is an austrian company Only the cabe is a bit too short, unfortunately. That's when you take the LE. Go for the regular model to have longer cable, but no fancy colors...

well, I was (kind of) unable to post the last days because I burnt my hands due to quite a stupid move I pulled ... but now I think having only followed the conversation a little time was good because well, you guys have probably had the best idea IMO ... and that would be me joining up with Insejn! Seriously, this is absolutely good. I will try to get a hold of him to discuss this.

well, I don't find the newer Gappeq stuff bad. Gappeq is dark for me. It's the alias of dark. If I went to see Gappeq, I'd want dark ... and I want it exactly this way ... just like the album stuff. With the harsh sound and the "dead landscape". The beginnings were different and the tracks you mentioned are good, but I don't have a problem with the newer sound.

I also thought that it was not DDOS. It was some hacks using weaknesses in the board software as far as I was aware of what happened ... I don't know though. It's not the point anyway. Somebody has been attacking the servers. Who it is is a good question. There are people who think it's still Bruce/Jacob ... and there are even more freaked out theories about who these person(s) are... Nevertheless, it seems to get attacked from time to time. And I think that also was a reason for Mars to close down the Offtopic (not the reason, but a reason ... as in: the drop that made the dam break). At least that's how I got it, correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, apparently there are quite some people up for something good. Sounds quite nice! How about if we throw ourselves together and clarify what we gonna do, who shall run the place (one vs. a group of people) and whatnot. I have reflected a bit myself and I think it would be too much for me to run the place. I mean, I might even be able to do it ... but in the long run you probably will not see the progress some of you (and even me) desire. At least if I keep my job... So what are we gonna do?

OK, I understand. Sounds doable actually. Do you currently have mods or do you do it all alone? Because especially for point 3 it would be very useful to have some help... The thing is this: I have a job where I cannot plan my workload well. So it can happen to me that I am at work all day and kind of dead when I come home. It will survive when I am not checking one day, won't it? Next thing is: what is when you are in holiday? Nevertheless you're right, it sounds very automatic. Thing is, I would embrace the chance to contribute to this, to make it better, different. A mere psy news portal is good, but as a whole it would be better if there was more... Ouroboros stated a valid point when he says that to build a community, a place is needed where you can discuss other things than just psy. There indeed are only so many times you can ask the question what goatrance to recommend. Over the years it feels like each of those question threads has practically become an "introduction" thread for each new member ... everybody asks the question once, some good sould provide suggestions and well, that's it But opening OT again is opening the door to a shitload of issues. What I prefer would be some modular structure of the whole psynews construct and not just one forum site. But I can't change the place alone. I only have a limited amount of time and energy I can provide.

OK, I am only posting now because I spared this thread until I have some time to properly "digest" the news It's quite sad that Mars is retiring. I'd like to use this opportunity to say a big, big thank you. Without you, Mars, I'd eventually sit at quite a different point of life, music-wise. So, thanks a huge lot for keeping it up all the time. As for the retirement and take-over of the boards, I'm really kind of excited now because I'd actually be in the position to say yes. I have a job and have not much time because of it, but a recent makeover shows that I do have a bit of time and I can use it for something productive. And it's even better when it is plannable (to a certain extent) like this forum activity because I like when the process is more regular. In fact, I am confident that I could do it. And I like the board. I also like how it is now, without Offtopic, focused on information and news about the scene. I think this is quite important. Offtopic can be discussed on so many other places, I'd prefer if this place here stayed like this now. Lots of scene people coming here, posting news, reviews and discussing releases. It's perfect. I also have technical knowledge. I'm a graduated student of IT. And it would even be good for me if I can use/learn more skills because in the current job I have I feel I don't fully use them. I have often wanted to contribute to the scene, to give something back for the good things I received. I tried to make music, write reviews and such, but the music attempt failed terribly and of the reviews I don't really write many. So? Maybe this is the chance I should take? An additional benefit might be the relative distance I have to personal issues of members, fights and such... Hehe, I feel like writing an application letter ... yet this is voluntary work, lol. But I do not want to say a yes yet. Mars, can you describe a typical day's work on the forums? What do you do when you come home from your job (at what time you come home)? What is to do?

haha, with that comment I actually meant that I am so musically naked that I did not understand the terminology you used so I can't even say whether the description is well or not

hey man, thanks for answering I was just surprised that it has nothing to do with psytrance, you know. When I read the thread title, I thought AvB would play Psytrance now because he plays your (psy) tracks... And I now understand that you don't wanna ditch all what you have done before by changing your alias. That would actually not be very wise. cheers

great video! It's great to see how it was 14 years ago ... you can feel a sort of vibe in there that is not here today (and it's not just the music). But I was 12 at that time ... oh my gosh... Could say now that I wished to have been into psy back then already, but it wouldn't be just I guess. I have made my experiences the way I did and am satisfied with them, wouldn't want to change anything. Still, cool for the people having been there...

Etnoscope - King Size Rizzla from Drums From The Dawn Of Time it's so great, I love that track

this is really awesome! I like the energy that comes across... On the other hand it might lose a little bit of the intimate warmth that a Didgeridoo and this whole live band setting ususally provides in music as it's kind of overpowered by the effects from other instruments. Great though nevertheless. If they came here, I'd totally go see them! An austrian band called RhythMen does music that is in that vein actually, but they have a higher "warmth" factor so to say. I couldn't find a good video from them though, only have dug up ones that show them only playing acoustic ... so it's somehow like the following, think a little electronic besides it

It's time for good news! PANZAR PRODUKTIONZ, "newskool Progressive" label of the first hour, has released another compilation of crunchy, biting true-to-the-core progressive trance! And it's freely available again! Nine new tunes from their roster, a variety of styles! It ranges from colorful dance pieces (such as the tune from Pusherstreet & Etnoscope) over more "massively" arranged tracks up to characteristic progressive stompers made in the style of former Panzar Produktionz releases. Those who knew their first promo compilation, Progressive Bunker, will love it instantly. I'd say it's even better than Progressive Bunker as the artists and the sound has developed further, making it sound even more progressively wonderfully awesome, you really can hear it in the tunes! It is so good to see the Panzar Produktionz project develop further and see that they really mean it, stay true to their principles (releasing kickass progressive trance) and improve their quality on top of that; in my opinion this deserves full support. Get this if you don't want to miss out on a great new progressive trance release with a bit of the vibe from the sound from the old days, sound that comes from the heart and not from the cash machine! V/A - Tank Fuel can be downloaded freely from http://www.panzarproduktionz.com/Download.html All progheads, show your support and get it

yeah, the evil of the samples ... more songs with same sample and you get a salad when the only thing that you remember is the sample ... but frankly, it almost always is... oh and by the way ... I'd never ever would have recognized any song by the description in the first post. never ever. does that speak for anybody else? I don't wanna feel musically naked...

Ahem ... can anybody enlight me what "Alien Jesus" has to do with Protoculture & Armin Van Buuren? Other than nothing that is... Apart from that: I have dug up that Protoculture track "Early Bird" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEbMwlv26fE) because Lemmi's video is down. But what I hear is actually quite awful to me, I must say. My opinion. What is this? This has nothing to do with Psytrance at all. Actually it wouldn't even belong on this forum if Protoculture had not made it... "The new low" ... well, if it's PSYtrance you wanna talk about here, then that would fit, however, that is not PSYtrance... Hey, Protoculture (when you're reading this), can I ask why you didn't choose another alias? Would have been way more logical. This way it's just confusing. In both ways, to and fro. What's with the people that like the one style and not the other, vice versa?

was going to recommend that aswell cheers

Don't forget: Unreal (Tournament) is reality

A phantastically great album! Thanks for this wonderful release to all people involved. I have written a review for it: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?/topic/60049-etnoscope-way-over-deadline/ Support this and get this!

I'm really glad that the new Etnoscope album is out now - finally. Now it's time to post that review for it that I had on my hands for some time already. It's an absolutely great album. A big thanks to the guys and all people involved in making this release possible and freely available for the public! ::: ETNOSCOPE - WAY OVER DEADLINE The news about the release of a new album by Etnoscope might be coming quite out of the blue. But indeed, there is a new album out by Etnoscope, the same band that brought out a truly great work of tribal psytrance music with their widely acclaimed album "Drums From The Dawn Of Time" in 2003. Now, seven years after their first album, the band is back to make the dancefloors shake again. Many people thought that this never would become reality, that the band was dead and the sound was gone. This release is to prove them otherwise! Etnoscope was in fact actually never really dead, the project just took a long sleep. Details about the full story might be explained somewhere else though as here I'd like to concentrate on the presentation of this new piece. The first thing the listener will recognize is a slight difference in the sound. Even though it is not easy to pinpoint as the songs are actually pretty different from each other and you are also getting some that are still somewhat in the style of the first album, it can generally be said that the overall level of rhythm and sound has become lighter and more technologically refined. The characteristic tribal elements that Etnoscope have become known for are still present at many places, yet I would say that the sound has developed more warmth and less bite. This is a good thing in my opinion though. And in addition to that, this slightly altered approach to sound has left room for more creativity to create unique pieces of musical craftsmanship. Because of this, the tracks themselves are offering plenty of differences compared to another. So let me take you through the tracks: The album starts off with "Odins Kraft". Now, Kraft in german means power and Odin should not need an explanation anyway, thus I thought this to be a mighty and massive track, but I got very surprised with this one - in a very positive way! First of all, it's no monstrous track. It comes on quite calm and balanced, even peaceful in a way. And then it took me completely by surprise that the main element in this song are not sky-enlighting synth melodies (as I kind of expected), but a woman's singing. This is very interesting. I do not know what she sings, but it's obviously a north-european language. The song has a very beautiful atmosphere altogether. I don't know how to exactly describe it, but it has a warm, yet powerful feel to it that has something of ancient times where people gathered around a fire under the stars and were singing and also dancing in rituals for their gods. And that is why the track is so good even though it does not even contain that much power seen from the drums, melodies and all that point of view. But all in all it is as if the whole piece focuses on a deep ancient power that is rooted deeply within earth and the universe... I have heard of people not liking this track too much, but I find it one of the best and most interesting pieces on the album. After this relatively gentle beginning, it's time to get going with a "Guitar Session". Now, the terms "guitar" and "trance" I always have associated with commercial (kinda), but don't expect a cheesy touch now, there is none. This is one of the few guitar tracks that are actually good (in my opinion). That's probably because I can't hear very much characteristical guitar in it anyway, just a bit here and there. But maybe it has been used for a lot more effects (some of which sound interesting) and I just don't know. Nice rhythm, I like the bassline; nice tribal drums too. All in all a solid second track. The next song, "Twilight", is quite different to the first two. It has got a lot more progression compared to the sort of relaxed "floatiness" present in the previous songs and I would say that the bass and rhythm in this one, paired with raw synth effects, is more in the vein of the older stuff from the band. A sample of this song has been online on the Etnoscope site since quite some time and I have played it countless times and annoyed the neighbours with it because I found it so awesome, so I'm very happy to see this song finally released. The main synth that starts in the middle is absolutely addictive for me, I love how it blends into the song and forms a melody-rhythm hybrid. It makes the track actually quite massive. And all in all it is quite entrancing to me, but in a sort of deeper and more down to earth way than most other trance music. Then there comes "Kajiko", a tune fitted with characteristic elements Etnoscope has been using often, such as female singing and tribal drums. But even though these characteristic elements are present, the atmosphere is a bit different, sounding more modern compared to the kind of heavier sound of the previous album. A little bit of melancholy I can sense in the atmosphere as well. The synth melody tempts me to picture an old space station that is finally rediscovered after drifting through time for aeons ... it would be a fitting image, as Etnoscope themselves have sort of been drifting through time for the last few years - and with this track they are finally delivering a piece that has a bit of the atmosphere from the previous album. It's a good song and it sets the mood right for more things to come. Just the right timing, because there are indeed more things to come! After that track there comes a piece called "Sunset", which is obvisouly intentionally named as the counterpart to the magnificent song "Sunrise" on the first album. Again the song contains female singing and also tribal drums. The sound has a more floaty and faster feeling to it than expected, but I was probably thinking too much in the veins of the old sound. I think it should actually not be the intention of a listener to compare everything to the old stuff; Etnoscope have developed further and so has their sound. And "Sunset" is a great song with a very nice melody that indeed gives back a bit of the feeling of the past again... After those two tracks, which were connected to the past to me, I was in the mood for a stomper. And here it comes: it's time for "Might And Magic"! Whoa, what a track. You recognize from the start that there is something big to come - massive synth effects, a distant tribal voice ... and then it starts off! It's fast. It's monstrous. Thunderous. Tribal drums fill the air. And I already get sweaty from listening! This is an intense and altogether happy track where the speed of tribal drums paired with the masterful crafting of massive synth effects even gives you a special tingly feeling overall. It's nicely building up in intensity and holding the high level until the end - absolutely perfect! I was not running to it yet, but I certainly will. This is a real pusher that can make you dance and feel good! Then, after that storm (so to say), it's time for a bit less intensity. And for this purpose, the next track "JävlaSladdar" suits perfectly. The tempo is reduced and the listener gets a break from the intensity of the last track. This one has a clear atmosphere with moderate progression. I like the melody bits being nice and catchy and the whole song being a little easy going, with a bit of guitar adding to the groove. This track is not a particular highlight, but still a really good song. And now here is another one of those moments we have all been waiting for: the track "Medieval". Maybe you haven't been waiting for it if you didn't know it before, but once you listened to it, I bet you'll love it. This song is genious. Think psytrance mixed with medieval party atmosphere - pipers and dancers round the fire, jugglers, alchimists, ... it really is that good! Everything is perfect here: the beat signature is kind of interesting, the flute melody is plain awesome and the atmosphere is really bringing together darkness and joy just the same way as you'd expect from the medieval age. This is truly wonderful. I have not yet witnessed any other artist doing this in even remotely the same great way. With so much energy in the air, a listener needs a nice and gentle comedown. And he needs to be brought back to the future - or whatever time we have now. That's what the track "Freedom" will do for you. It's a nice track with a very relaxed atmosphere, while still being not downtempo. I like the sound of a choir that is in there. An uncomplicated and nice slower piece. Perfectly suitable for bringing your heartbeat back to normal rate after a workout or an intense party without letting you sleep off... The last track, "Wierdo Swingo" is a piece of downtempo. And it is actually very welcome, because I would not be ready to be lead out into the outside world just yet, I still want to rest a little while in warmth and comfort. And this piece is perfect for it ... the sound chills the listener in an harmonic and nice way, with a very gentle rhythm. The song feels like a cosy cave, lit with candles and full of warmth. Very nice to end this wonderful album and this wonderful travel through all kinds of different settings and sound structrures. So the journey has come to an end. As a summary I would say that this is one of the most interesting works released lately. There is something on there for everybody - playful upbeat tunes, powerful progressive tracks, floaty passages, deep and powerful songs, massive stompers, gentle swingers ... and even a perfect chill track. And even when going through so many dfferent styles, the album fees as a whole and no tune is out of place. Gently yet powerful, with a lot of "warmth", that is how I would describe the sound of Etnoscope. And this is a perfect piece to showcase every aspect of it! Interestingly, a pre-release version of the album had a different tracklist where especially the track "Odins Kraft" was placed not as the first one, but later on the tracklist. Instead of it, "Kajiko" was the first one. I kind of liked this arrangement a little better than the current one ... but that does of course not diminish the quality and goodness in any way. After all, everybody can arrange their own playlist. And actually, each of the tracks is such a solid and good work of musical art that each of them can well stand alone - they don't need a peculiar order or a playlist to sound good. Finally, I'd like to add that the mastering of the album is actually excellent, with a clear and crisp sound that feels very comfortable on the ears. And at last, I'd like to say a big "thank you" to everybody involved in the creation of this album for bringing this awesome piece of sound to the public! Favourite tracks: 1 (!!), 2, 3 (!), 5, 6 (!), 8 (!!) Get the free release from Ektoplazm: http://www.ektoplazm.com/2010/etnoscope-way-over-deadline RTP 2010

really nice track I like it ... and what appears to be the B-side of that record (M.S.B.O.Y.) is great too... I never pictured Eric Prydz to be an interesting artist, I hate Call On Me

do you mean Kode IV - Silicon Civilisation? that one actually didn't knock me off the chair...

Yes, people, don't miss this! Drums From The Dawn Of Time is among the best albums in psytrance history for me and it's an absolutely awesome thing that they release it for free now. And another new Etnoscope album "Way Over Deadline" is coming aswell!