Dragonflier Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I think people are setting a pretty low standard for what's "unique" here, I mean there's no way Hallucinogen, Chi-Ad or Koxbox are unique in any way. They're good artists, but that doesn't make their music "unique". Lots of others have made music in the same vein. If I was to name a truly unique one, it would probably be Eat Static - Science Of The Gods. A unique Mix of experimental psy, jungle and DnB. Anything Eat Static have done is more or less unique really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) I think people are setting a pretty low standard for what's "unique" here, I mean there's no way Hallucinogen, Chi-Ad or Koxbox are unique in any way. They're good artists, but that doesn't make their music "unique". Lots of others have made music in the same vein. If I was to name a truly unique one, it would probably be Eat Static - Science Of The Gods. A unique Mix of experimental psy, jungle and DnB. Anything Eat Static have done is more or less unique really. 416325[/snapback] now that's as false statement as is to say it's low standard to say Eat Static is "unique". edit: uups! edit2: screw it. it's all mumbo jumbo. from now on only finnish. Edited January 15, 2006 by |o|o|p|i|u|m| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 now that's as false statement than to say it's low standard to say Eat Static is "unique". 416334[/snapback] w...t...f. Could you PLEASE make sense? I really have no idea of what you just said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 w...t...f. Could you PLEASE make sense? I really have no idea of what you just said. 416341[/snapback] What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 w...t...f. Could you PLEASE make sense? I really have no idea of what you just said. 416341[/snapback] oh I'm sorry, did I do some terrible grammar error there? I can't really spot the "hard to get"-ness of that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 oh I'm sorry, did I do some terrible grammar error there? I can't really spot the "hard to get"-ness of that one. 416347[/snapback] Maybe you should try to re-formulate your sentence, there's more than a "grammar error" there I'm afraid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Maybe you should try to re-formulate your sentence, there's more than a "grammar error" there I'm afraid.... 416356[/snapback] The sentence was grammatically poor but the message was clear enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 yeah, that damn "language barrier"... always there for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 The sentence was grammatically poor but the message was clear enough. 416357[/snapback] I understood he disagreed with what I said, but that was about it. My point is that "unique" means something really out of the ordinary, something that is unlike everything else stylewise. This definition fits way better on Eat Static than on, say Chi-Ad. But hey, feel free to disagree.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agia_igoumeni Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Texas Faggott - "texas faggott" Ulver - "Perdition City" F.S.O.L. - " ISDN" Aphex Twin - "S.a.w. 85-92" Logic Bomb - " Headware" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 oh I wish I had english skills of an englishman. but anyways yes I was disagreeing. To compare koxbox and eat static: eat static is techno, drum'n'bass, trance, psy. koxbox is psychedelic trance. (some techy stuff nowadays eh? but I'm talking more of the mid 90s here.) what's common factor with these acts? the common factor is that they've appreciated and known in the psytrance scene. and what do one knows, we're on a psyforum! what I'm trying to get here is that the people who talk about these projects come from psy-community. so, as I've heard a fair amount of psy, I can easily say there's nothing close to that mad sound of ol' koxbox. but to say eat static is unique? From what I've heard, they are. But then again think of the scale of styles is in their sound! Do you view yourself as an expert in the field of d'n'b, techno, breaks, salsa, etc? I'm guessing not? well, not in all those areas are you? so, to draw a conclusion, how could one know is eat static unique, as their sound is so broad, and you basicly should through-outly know most genres of electronic music that you could really say "yes, there's nothing alike." as for koxbox-sound being merely psy, you can quite easily make such statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Some twisted releases have a sound world of their own. Not completely unique since some came after them but for example Uns 1 was very different sounding to everything else when it came out. But along came Twisted Sessions 1 and then YBs a Flock of Bleeps.. umm yeah what is this hspongle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 PLANET B.E.N. - TRIPPY FUTURE GARDEN BATTLE OF THE FUTURE BUDDHAS - TWIN SHARKFINS BLUE PLANET CORPORATION - BLUE PLANET SHAOLIN WOODEN MEN - SUPERMINDWAY UX - ULTIMATE EXPERIENCE MFG - PROJECT GENESIS TOI DOI - TECHNOLOGIC SLIDE - UNSTABLE X-DREAM - RADIO SHPONGLE - ARE YOU SHPONGLED ? FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - DEAD CITIES THE ORB - ORBUS TERRARUM FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - LIFEFORMS SYNAESTHESIA - DESIDERATUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tox Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Element: Full Moon A real 3-piece bànd playing progressive trance WITH vocals, unprecedented at that time & still my benchmark for anything that includes voices. SBK: Treibstoff Clean, synthetic, minimal progressive: not too dry, too hard, too boring, just great stuff. Ticon: Aero First album that fuses rasta-vocals with proggy-trance. They also use a lot of slower break-beats here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 so, to draw a conclusion, how could one know is eat static unique, as their sound is so broad, and you basicly should through-outly know most genres of electronic music that you could really say "yes, there's nothing alike." as for koxbox-sound being merely psy, you can quite easily make such statement. 416389[/snapback] What I'm saying is that nobody makes music the way Eat Static do, with mixing of different styles. I think that's a pretty safe statement to make. About Koxbox, you may have a point that their music is somewhat unique based on the level of psychedelism. However, I don't think their stuff released under the Saiko-pod alias is anywhere near unique, and the same goes with many other names mentioned in this thread, which really was my point to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I have yet to hear an artist in anything related to psytrance or trance music in general, that has more of an own style than Juno Reactor. Of course I recognize individual styles of other artists, but they're just not as original and unimitated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 What I'm saying is that nobody makes music the way Eat Static do, with mixing of different styles. I think that's a pretty safe statement to make. About Koxbox, you may have a point that their music is somewhat unique based on the level of psychedelism. However, I don't think their stuff released under the Saiko-pod alias is anywhere near unique, and the same goes with many other names mentioned in this thread, which really was my point to begin with. 417150[/snapback] I agree. But I was more pointing my criticism to your statements about hallucinogen and koxbox, which aren't highly appreciated for nothing. I wasn't talking about koxbox' sideprojects at all. (haven't even much heard saiko-pod to be honest.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I wasn't talking about koxbox' sideprojects at all. (haven't even much heard saiko-pod to be honest.) 417180[/snapback] Yeah I know, I was referring to another reply in this thread, in which Saiko-pod's album was mentioned. But what the hell - "unique" means different things to different people I guess. I have yet to hear an artist in anything related to psytrance or trance music in general, that has more of an own style than Juno Reactor. Of course I recognize individual styles of other artists, but they're just not as original and unimitated. 417175[/snapback] Agreed, Juno Reactor is a very good example of something really unique IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Ulver - "Perdition City" 416382[/snapback] Seconded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Shaolin Wooden Men - Supermindway Which is just fucking Nuts Infected Mushroom's - I'm the supervisor sounds like dark 80's funk mixed with trance, not heard that anywhere else. The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation I know its not psy but it is so famous and no one has even maneged to successfully copy liam's style that I think it should be here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Non Trance albums: FSOL - Dead Cities Hardfloor - Respect Speedy J - Ginger Equinox - Holon Noise Unit - Voyeur Plastikman - Music Roni Size - New Forms Daft Punk - Homework Biosphere - Microgravity Delerium - Spheres 1 & 2 The Orb - Orbus Terrarum Pro-Tech - Orbiting Cathedrals Earth Nation - Terra Incognita Spicelab - A Day On Our Planet LSG - Rendez-vous In Outer Space Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole Underworld - Second Toughest In The Infants Front Line Assembly - Total Terror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insejn Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Ulver - "Perdition City" 416382[/snapback] Thirded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukiro Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Thirded 419783[/snapback] I bought this in like June and haven't even listened to it yet. I suck. I also buy too many records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insejn Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I bought this in like June and haven't even listened to it yet. I suck. I also buy too many records. 419794[/snapback] But most of it, you suck I suggest you put that on top of your pile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Truly original? Ubar Tmar Schlab early LOTS of stuff (Astral, Pleiadians, Juno, Infected, GMS, Sandman, Koxbox, etc.) The Delta (and the X-Dream/Spirallianz/Midimiliz crew) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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