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Moty knows how to pack a parcel (very) well, he sends stuff on time, makes sure his records are in good condition, is easy to communicate with - I really have nothing negative to say. Most recommended!

Agreed, the original one is the best. A bit sad that Dennis left this style so fast.

WORD, BROTHER! Took me bloody forever to get ahold of this on the original vinyl, and the track "Back To Blighty" on there is even better! But it has never been released on CD... One of my all-time favourite tracks is this very very unknown one: Underhead - "Orojuna", I also enjoy their first track, The 25th Code - very very cool track, especially for its age. and ofcourse Etnica - "Intense Visitation" =)

Hardly anything is released on vinyl anymore. TIP.World and Digital Structures are the only labels that spring to mind. I'd recommend hunting down older stuff instead - It's available on vinyl, and the music is better =)

You think all of us prefer kissing mars' ass over being honest about our musical taste? Come on man, you know thats bullshit. I'm not saying your personal taste in music is "wrong", but that kind of crap isn't needed. Like, what the hell would anyone gain from being pathetic enough to try and kiss fabiens ass by claiming to like a record he released on his label? Get real.

I used to be, being the only vote for 2001-3000, but now someone has voted 3001-infinity so the pole position has been taken over =)

Look, this has so much to do with association. I heard most of ths stuff at parties back when it was released. Some I bought back then, the rest I've bought now =) Alien Protein is one of the greatest records of all time for me, but thats not an objective review - I have so many great memories associated with that record that it's difficult for me not to be unbiased. However, even objectively, it DOES have Starship 101 and Party Droid, among others... As for koxbox, I think both albums deserve to be called classics (The Great Unknown was a Saikopod album, renamed by the label). The sound of Dragon Tales is a little too cheerful for me normally so it's not a personal favourite, but I can appreciate it on a more intellectual level. Forever After on the other hand, is the truly amazing one in my opinion, especially considering it's age. I can see why I.F.O. isn't the holy grail to everyone, but it's certainly a classic - the impact of that album upon release was really something. The same thing goes for X-Dream - "Radio" - if I.F.O. put an end tothe melodic era (well, to some extent), Radio started the "progressive" era. There are always exceptions to this - Planet B.E.N. released stuff in 94 that sounded like it could be from 2000 under the name Nordreform Sound System. And to deny his Trippy Future Garden it's place in the hall of fame? Man, I don't know how the heck you listen to records... but anyway, Radio was very very influential, and for good reasons. And sure you're entitled to an opinion Cinos, but I know that my opinions were much less well-founded (and different!) when my record collection was much smaller. Now everyone likes whatever they like, you included, but if we're going to make a neutral and unbiased analysis of the musical merits (and scene influence) of these albums, experience and knowledge is obviously crucial. think this is what Seraph and other were hinting at, and I would wager that people with huge collections and a 10+ year history in this scene can put more weight behind their words than someone who's not been around as long, personal attechment and memories aside.

Arvika is indeed your best chance - they have the biggest names for sure. But the best parties on the other hand, are usually of the underground variety...

Thanks, found it about 30 seconds after my post... d'oh!

I used to have some of these but they are long since lost in some harddrive disaster. I googled for the original netlabel site but I assume it's long gone... so where did you guys get the tracks now?

Indeed an excellent track! I have an extra copy of the original vinyl here, and I'm open for trades =)

I think they'll hear from coca colas lawyers soon enough. This is certainly not endorsed by the beverage company, they just found that freeware font thats floating around.

here is an early (1992) release linking trance music with Goa. I'm sure there are examples from 1991 as well.

I recognize those words... is it by any chance said in a voice similar to that in Darshan - "Windchime"? I'll have to poke around a bit to see if I can find this... I do think I have it somewhere.

True, that would be extremely hard to spot. But then there are similar errors on REAL CDs - this and this both exist with and without barcodes, and they're both legitimate. I've had both versions at once and compared, they were pressed at the same plant and everything. That Juno Reactor album is on a bigger label (novamute is huge compared to pretty much any "goa" label) and is a much bigger artist than most goa trance acts, so I can understand that someone made a bootleg of it - but pleiadians feels a bit less likely. Not impossibly, but just not likely.

This is true for larger artists - I have a very extensiev Björk collection and she's one of the more frequently bootlegged artists out there. So I've seen my fair share of fakes, and own a few as well. BUT - with CD-Rs, there is still (to my knowledge) no way of changing the inner ring design (catalogue number or whatever). So eevn if you have CDRs that look perfectly "silver" on the data surface, you need to print CDs the professional way in order to fool us die-hardcollectors. And that costs money. In fact, I would be very very surprised if anyone bothered bootlegging Psysex etc... Now I.F.O. could perhaps be worth the effort - BUT then you'd have like 500 or moer bootlegs floating around, and to sell those at a slow enough rate to avoid suspicion would take ages. And I can tell you with great certainty that there are no large numbers of these appearing anywhere. Also, as someone who's worked with print design and studied advertising etc, I look very very carefully at artwork. I can assure you that unless the bootlegger has access to the original artwork, I can tell the difference. And, as I said before, I have never come across a goa trance bootleg. I'm still not saying there aren't any in existence, I'm just saying it would be very unlikely that such a small genre as this would be targetted by bootleggers.

OK, apparantly you need things explained a little extra before you get it, so I'll be a nice guy and go over this again for you. That is not the point. The point is that YOU came along with allegations that these were fakes, but with absolutely zero evidence to back this up. That was completely uncalled for. I haven't said that I guarantee these are real, because I don't know. Here's the key issue, the one you've completely failed to understand - if you have no evidence, DON'T JUDGE! You can think whatever you like about these records, thats fine, but don't slag him off publicly on the forum if you have absolutely nothing to back your words up with. And all those are for bootleg CDs, that the buyers were successfulled tricked into thinking were real releases? Yeah, very likely, whatever. Statements like "Feedback score suxx. Ebay suxx." really portrays you as a fair and balanced person who knows what he's talking about and is making an impartial, unbiased interpretation of the facts at hand. Oh shit wait, it's no longer april first, so I have to take that back! You're just proving that you've never bought much over ebay yourself and thus have no clue of what you're on about. Even with todays more pricey laser colour printers, the artwork would be quite obviously different. And I know, I have access to ultra high-end professional printers costing several tens of thousands of euro (I work in advertisement). Also, scanning the original artwork will lose some quality. I know that *I* won't be fooled by a bootleg, and yet with my hundreds of records bought on ebay, none have been bootlegs. So could you perhaps by any chance bring ANY evidence to the table? Anything at all that proves there are goa trance bootlegs about, anything that shows this particular seller is up to no good, anything that proves that making bootlegs of a quality indistinguishable from the original would be a cost-efficient endeavour? Even if we do assume that you can make CDR's that look exactly like a printed CD (which you can't), printing artwork etc would cost more than you'd earn from it. No I don't, please enlighten me! I'm sure you just can't wait to shower us in your overwhelming floods of evidence supporting your statements! Again, you have understood exactly nothing of why I'm discussing this with you. I am not the one making claims that they are false or authentic, YOU ARE. So that means YOU bring the evidence, YOU back up your statements, YOU justify your slanderous attack on this guy. If you can't prove anything or even bring us the slightest shred of evidence, YOU shut the fuck up. I never once said these were guaranteed to be real, I have only questioned YOUR statements that they are fake. Don't you get it? And apparantly you "know" that any rare CD sold there must be a bootleg. What rights do you have to try to discredit someone like this without evidence? What if I posted in all the threads of yours saying you rape kids? Maybe thats an EXPRESSION OF MY THOUGHTS based on what I know about Ukraine? See how fucked up your reasoning is? And if you're going to reply to this flaming me for comparing CD copying to child rape, please look up the word analogy in the dictionary first. So because I dislike unprovoked attacks, I must have had a difficult childhood? If you're a troll you're one of the best I've met during my 11+ years online. But truth is I think you're just immune to logic.

For fucks sake man, do you realize how many ultra-rare ORIGINALS are sold on ebay every day? If you have no evidence other than some ill-founded suspicion based on whatever light-shy business you happen work for, shut the f**k up, please. And don't YOU come whining about PLUR when YOU are the one who made an attack on someone that was completely uncalled for! I'll certainly be watching this guys listings, seems like he has some nice stuff.

What? "sells cds on ebay the same way as this guy" - whats that supposed to mean? If you're going to accuse someone of selling counterfeit / bootleg records, you'd better have more evidence than that statement. I see no reason to doubt the legitimacy of these auctions.

...which is exactly how I've been using it =) Afterwards people come up to me, shaking all over, stuttering "w-what the h-h-hell was THAT?"

aaaah, yes ofcourse! That settles my mind a bit, I was going crazy KNOWING that I have the track somewhere =)

Beware though that music this intense can be "above your head" if you're not in the mood. I would suggest building up to it by listening to some other very intense melodic stuff first. This is not music for right when you get out of bed =)

Indeed that track is fucking insane! I'd even go so far as to say it's the most intense trance track I've heard, ever! And the as of yet unreleased Live mix is right up there too =)

Damn I have number 1 somewhere... no bloody idea what track it is though. Probably some old vinyl I only played once and then forgot about, since I don't find it very good =) it could be this, although it's not very likely... but for some reason I must have sorted that record under the wrong letter, because it's not under X for XS and I can't find it. X-Scream was sort of right about track 6, it's Tim Schuldt bot not under his Talking Souls alias. The track is Return To The 2nd Earth, originally released here and it makes its only CD appearance here.

B & W makes some pretty shitty low-end speakers too (well maybe not for the price, but shitty for my standards), but I had the pleasure of listening to their 801 model once and after that, nothing is good enough =( Although I have yet to listen to the top-end Focal-JMLab speakers - in general I am more attracted to the JMLab sound that that of B&W, although they're both very neutral and precise brands. I have a pair of JMLab Cobalt 806 speakers on Atakama stands, driven by a NAD C370 amp (yeah, total overkill =) and currently an old Onkyo CD player that I hope to replace with a Pioneer DV-668 (for SACD and DVD-Audio support) soon-ish. I sometimes wish I had saved up for the Elektra 906 speakers instead, but I bought the amp and some DJ gear at the same time, so it was pricey enough anyway (spending 3500 euro in one go). Oh, and I use Linn signal cables (can't recall the model, but they were pricey =) and Supra Ply 3.4/S speaker cables. My DJ gear is one Technics 1210 and one shitty Reloop player, both with Ortofon Concorde Silver Pro cartridges. I use a Vestax PMC-270 mixer (later updated to PMC-275) and currently no DJ CD players. I can strongly recommend the JMLab speakers, from the Cobalt range and up. Lower models are less satisfactory in my opinion. And get good stands, it makes waaay more differance than you'd think. The NAD amp is nice but sometimes I wish it was even more neutral. Arcam has some nice stuff in this price range.