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A nice techno-techhouseishy-ness netlabel Ive found (thru link followings via Ektoplazm) is AntiRitmo. After hearing Hiroshi Oki's Digital Diamonds release I scoured the DD site and found the link; www.antiritmo.com (as of this post its down, but I recommend patience). More Oki is only one of the good things about antiritmo, other artists whose stuff Ive dug are Roger M, Dessben, and Kuniaki Takenaga. Im sure there are more, I havent been able to visit again and download unfortunately... But Im patient. Gonna have to check out minimalnet.org now

Jilted. I think it was even my first electronic album purchase, on cassette no less . Sadly its been lost in time...

Hey man good to see you on here (its Mudpeople )! Bumpalumphagus for this release, I think some people on here will really dig it if they give it a chance! GIVE IT A CHANCE PEOPLE.

Psytones is right actually, acid helps (just not during the actual production ). heh. But other than having talent, years of experience, and a will to experiment and ignore the 'its just noises' people... Actually I think they make a special Psykovsky VST that makes all those crazy sounds automatically. Furious uses it too. Thats their secret. Press one button, and PRESTO! Mindfuckery.

I used to be the same way, getting so caught up trying to make everything sound clean right off the bat that I would forget to make a track, basically. Ive deleted gigs of these files with a single 32 beat pattern that went nowhere, but sounded clean... I always thought of it as practice but I look back now and see how much it actually hindered my learning... Now I try to get the whole track out ASAP. Try to get the whole idea out before its lost or I get too preoccupied cleaning sounds. Ive found that with this approach I get much more cohesive work, quicker, and a much clearer idea of where I want to go with it and what I want it to sound like in the end (even though it usually never ends up exactly like I imagine, but thats ok its sorta like a sculpture). Once the idea is out there, its really a lot easier to chip away at the sharp edges. IMO, start with whatever you feel like starting with. Usually, I start with the bass and percussion, just because, thats usually where the ideas start, but sometimes I'll have an idea for a melody or something and will start with that. I try to go with the moment and where it takes me. My main "Eureka!" moment came when I realized how much I was stubbornly sticking to techniques that really weren't all that effective and decided to try something new. One should never stick to ANYTHING rigidly. What is good for one track, is in my experience rarely good for any other. They each evolve on their own.

Best advice is to just work on making your stuff clean and dynamic. EQ everything just right, its time consuming but it makes a world of difference. Trust your ears before you trust a bouncing green-yellow-red bar. (It should never be anything but green, though) Keep everything from clipping, but try to get everything as loud and dynamic as you can. If something starts clipping and you need it to be louder to match the rest of the track, instead of raising it and clipping it, lower everything else to fit it. Try to compress as little as possible and only if absolutely necessary (a lot of things can be solved with EQ rather than a compressor). Compress only individual tracks if possible, rather than the master track. Good tracks get ruined by master track compression all the time... (Highko Im looking at your Noise Brothers album ) DON'T get discouraged if it doesn't sound as full and spatial as pro mastered stuff. Pro stuff is usually mastered with high end equipment often including hardware that gives it a really warm sound. Its very not cheap to buy your own gear for mastering (but a nice cheaper software mastering suite is Izotope Ozone, runs about 250 USD and in my experience can give your stuff a bit more of a polish). Its also not always the best idea to master your own stuff. As an artist you have biased ears from listening to the song so many times, and this means you can miss some very blatant things (I know I have...) that a fresh pair of ears would get right away. Thats not to say there aren't artists who can master their own work, its just easier to let someone else do it. But above all try to get it clean and mixed down first and foremost.

I used to have Eat Static-Abduction (93 right?) but it was eaten by time unfortunately. Right now the oldest I got is California Sunshine-Nasha.

Harder stuff to me is like Propaganda, Black Sun Empire, Noisia, as 5meohd mentioned Counterstrike and Evol Intent. Stuff thats got a heavy bass and ripping percussion... Umm, yeah...

Not bad, I kinda prefer the harder side of dnb than Neurotransmitterz seems to be. I can totally hear who made it, its got that hint of Ocelot... ('Its got bits of real panther in it')

I dug the InDepth track on Faerie Dragon's Squeech, a great mix of breaks turning to sorta-Suomi style trance then sorta being both at the same time. Ive always wondered if there was more than the very few psy-breaks producers out there (I guess any breaks producer whose work is trippy could be called 'psy-')

Great tracks, good to see experimentation going on. Some of the tracks remind me of Cybernetika's earlier stuff that wasn't quite so full power but still damn good. I love long tracks, why don't more people do long works?

I use Audacity for recording stuff, it works well and is free and open source (I try to use as much open source softs as possible), but Ableton also works well. I just use the mic input on the laptop, its all I got for now, and for what I use it for it works fine, but Im sure a real audio interface will sound better.

As the title says this track is a sort of experiment in minimal psytech... http://www.sendspace.com/file/q0kgba Not my usual style but I think its enjoyable.

Loved Science of Sleep. Michel Gondry also has another decent film, 'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly' (based on a true story I think). More dreamlike films... I'd definitely say a lot of David Lynch is really dreamlike, though they tend to be a bit darker dreams than Science of Sleep... I recommend Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire.

Album contains music!??! ZOMG! >9000/10

Precisely, Basilisk. Ed Rush and Optical are kinda the lighter end, hehe... Gridlok falls in that category too. Some that Ive found particularly enjoyable; Aikon Spor Black Sun Empire Break Evol Intent Concord Dawn Dieselboy Noisia (I highly recommend these guys) Cause 4 Concern Skynet Ram Trilogy Cooh Im still a noob when it comes to dnb but these artists are ones that Ive really enjoyed. Theres a lot of cheese dnb out there... (WTF vocal dnb?) Im rediscovering my first love, which was drum & bass. And discovering that some of the artists that I thought were decent (Aphrodite, Roni Size) are pretty mainstream and, especially in recent years, stale.

COmpressed to .rar, the files are a little over 30mb. Ill just give you all the Ableton file and its samples and you can either use that as a base for more work, or export individual tracks for yourself at whatever quality. (The final mixdown was 280mb at 32bit float/96khz for those who were wondering) Here's the .rar, contains the Ableton file and all referenced samples (I think? Let me know and kick me if I forgot any): http://www.sendspace.com/file/n03m1r Ableton probably wont know where the samples are, youll just have to tell it where to look. (Usually a red bar pops up in the lower left corner, click that, then set the folder to be searched as the folder where the samps are)

Im on a wireless connection so it may take a while to upload full tracks... But, I did the final arranging and mixing in Ableton with just usual 32 beat loops. Maybe I can just give you the Ableton file (am I right, thinking you have Ableton?) and the samples for it. That would probably be easiest. That way you can crank the speed. I was kinda thinking the same thing, that it would sound nice faster. Glad you're enjoying it! I am too, its quite different than my usual style, its good to branch out and try new things, keeps the creative juices flowing. Veracohr: I could upload tracks at lower rates for you, or I could just give you the Ableton file and you can take it from there perhaps? The samples referenced are something like 30mb at full quality so it will be drastically smaller than raw Ableton track output. edit: Scratch that, about 50mb, but still waaay smaller.

12 Moons-Solid State Just an all around really good album in a unique style.

The Psynews Track. Or at least the latest version... (check the music making section for the thread and a link)

The neurofunk subgenre, I discovered, is the name for the style Ive always found most enjoyable. Seems a lot more thought out than the more rave-y jungle-y stuff, deeper and often darker, and usually with different percussion patterns than the average dnb. A lot of it I would even go as far to say could be called 'psy-dnb' if anyone actually cared enough to try and differentiate.

You know it could be... Its a sample, and I dont know the original note. Actually if its a half tone lower than I thought, thats good to know for future reference... Edit; Took a listen to your new version, f0rce, sounds great! And, I kinda got carried away and sorta turned it into a full track... (Uploading soon) Edit2: Now I kinda have a problem... The full quality .wav of just the final mixdown is something like 280 mb, so each individual track will be around that, and theres 7 of em... Not quite sure how we want to go about sharing that much data... Reducing the bitrate to 48khz would probably reduce the size quite a bit without all that much quality loss. I guess I'll share what Ive done so far and see where to go from there? Edit: So here's an mp3 of what Ive done; http://www.sendspace.com/file/rtr68d . I guess, take a listen and let me know what to share and what not to? Or something like that?

Using too many stereo expanders on the synth tracks... Sometimes it can add the fatness the track is lacking, but some other times it muffles and distorts the dynamics a bit... Cranking the low-low end of the bass, making it 'woofy'. Sometimes Ive managed to make really nice sounding deep-end basses, but most of the time it ends up woofing. A lot of times my percussion fills end up sounding the same, too...

Thats just one idea of many that I had, feel free to take the track in other directions if you like! Also feel free to use Veracohr's original file instead of my remixed one if you think it would work better.

Annarchy, Dickster and Barker-Eargate (Iboga) Cubica-Red Out (Iboga) Liftshift feat DJ Ozean-Window to the World (Flow) Antix-The Inkling (Iboga) POTS-Dandy Division (Tribal Vision) Cafu-TP Groove (Plusquam) Ticon-Poem for Granny (Digital Structures) Fitalic-Atomic Atmosphere (Tribal Vision) Son Kite-Gazing at the Sun (Parham and Plaza rmx) (Moonflower) Phony Orphants-Got What it Takes (Iboga) Eegor-Prime Groover (marathon mix) (Open) Sensient-Simple Sex (Zenon) http://www.sendspace.com/file/h3ikaj Very clean recording, made sure to avoid clipping anything as much as possible. And a nice flow too! Let me know what you think. I sorta intended this one to be an evening/twilight type proggy mix, but really, you can listen to it whenever and it works just as well.