Procyon

I am very sad today. My boyfriend travelled three weeks south to see his family and returned transformed, he announced to everyone he would break up with me upon his returning to our place, and did so. And I thought I would get old by his side. That I had found company for life. I am not depressed, just very sad. But I know the sun will appear after this. It always does.

Hope you are OK.

My hidden pleasure: I loved this boyband group (in truth, all successfull boybands, N'Sync, TakeThat, and others, are a copy of Menudo, the first one with coreography and multiple vocals). If you can understand Spanish, you will see the beauty that 'Claridad' is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3We6cNH2jyk Here they're again, with a hit in US in the 1980s:

That's undeniable. The question, though, is quite different: why other people don't like goa/psy? You deviated from the initial question.

No. But me, you and Goa travelller had a talk like this: -me: 2+2: 4 -you and goa: no! 4: 2+2

I threw parties dedicated solely to Goa...

I guess you haven't read that I threw (and stubbornly does every now and then) Goa parties, with deco fluo, invited DJs, massive e-flyers, and whatsnot...to have 5 people coming. I also had events with 100+ people, but they didn't return to our Goa parties. So, I think I have some experience on this. Our next electronic event, this Thursday, I won't play goa/psy. Besides empyting the dancefloor, it's the only time customers come to the counter asking "can you please play something else?"

Oh dear, he's coming back

I have thinking about that too. In short, what I think is that psytrance "combo" of high bpms and noisy noises in multiple layers of highs and mids just send a mixed signal to the brain (which is supposed to induce a trance), making it perceive the salad of layers of sound as way too overloadedl all the time. Which on its turn is very tiresome, to the brain and to the body. I also think there's a limit between speeds that tires the brain and speeds that makes it more relaxed: it's somewhere around 138 bpm. Most modern tech/house productions are made near this number. I think it's no surprise that clubs have long abandoned trance in favor of house. Elaborating a little more, house relaxes and keeps one turned on in the right balance, while psytrance causes a subtle short-circuit that people make just leave the dancefloor almost instantly. Of course this is not applied to every work out there, but I would say that 9 out of 10 modern goa/psy can be put under this umbrella. Another aspect I think we're observing from the wrong point of view is that young cluubers tend to like everything electronica: house/techno/electro/dub/dnb but they're not ready to appreciate goa/psy properly, mainly in multiple genres events. It is not the crowd that is not ready, it's that just goa/psy stands out in the middle of other genres. If funky techno is played after a house set and after that electro, people tend to stay on the dancefloor, and vice-versa. But if you play goa/psy in the middle (as I have done) it makes people "alert" unconsciously, and as I have said above, people get these mixed sounds, get tired of them in the first 5 minutes and their brain makes the decision the leave the "confusion" area. What causes it? I think it's the reasons I explained above: fast speed and uncomfortable sounds. Unfortunately I have observed that my goa/psy events are the least attended ones, even people who like it are not coming anymore. I also caught myself feeling tranced to house and techno that were played by other DJs while I realised that my own set was quite tiresome. A fix? Perhaps a change the way psychedelic music is being written. My 2 cents. edit: typing errors. edit #2: just for the sake of argument, I don't play electro and dubstep at all in our events. It's the only two genres I prohibit. Because they're too poor in quality and they're freaking annoying. I don't know the details of electro/dubstep production because I don't listen to them,, but they're the worst kind of electronic music ever.

If you have the benefit of retirement working part-time, so why not? IMO, it all boils down to if you are saving money for rainy days, not how you get it or how many hour you need to get it. I have worked part-time, it's good.

I have, and it was elating.

Interesting. I was just had a conversation with a friend about this last week, after our last electronic music night: people didn't react well to psytrance/goa when we played it for its alocated one-hour slot. The dancefloor not only got empty, but people got out of range of the music - most went outside to smoke, chat, or in his case, just to get away from the music. Two words can summarize our conversation: fast, frenzy. Psychedelic is too fast currently, not only the bpm, but FXes too - which gives an atmosphere of "frenzy" to psy/goa. Problem is: unless the brain is focused on listening to psy, it sounds as annoyingly noisy, just a bunch of FXex spread under 140/145 bpm - which on its turn is not the best speed for relaxing and dancing. I have more ideas about this - such as brain frequency - but I am not ready to elaborate them right now. Instead, I will share two tracks I played in our last event. A psy one, which scared people away from the dancefloor and a tribal-house one, 138 bpm, that had people dancing happily. Pixel & Cyclic - Nuclear Device M.in - When I Rock (Piemont Remix) edit: forgot the links

A virus?

Your link has tens of "unknown" tracks and mixes...it doesn't help the confusion in the SC page.

KURO played a retro-Goa set two weeks ago at Nagisa Festival in Tokyo. Here's the link, from KURO himself: http://www.mixcloud.com/kuro303/2013-06-29-nagisa-retro-goa-set/

Yes, this is a big problem. Some very good parties are made known in Japanese only. There are some forums dedicated to psy and goa in Japan that are entirely in Japanese. Or the other way around: they print flyers in Japanese and in English, but keep it very low profile, you can find them in only one CD store. This is one of the reasons the scene in Japan is still underground somehow: you learn about that wonderful party AFTER. If you are in Japan, I can tell you some spots where you can get better informed on local parties.

Thing is that he reminds a lot a legendary member (for being nonsense ad infinitum) of Isratrance who some thought initially he was funny, but he wasn't and I personally think he was one of the main reasons IR lost its importance. Some think he was a genius there, too.

Don't want to sound too curious...but as some of you have been in Psynews longer than me and have known Radi as well, tell us: is Radi a real person, or a character? I don't have any clues about that. edit: "haven't any clue" vs "don't have any clues"...need to polishi my English

Great!!! I definetely am listening to more and more Psy-H Project and other artists that favor this raw/melodic style.

This happens to me a lot in these circumstances: 1) when the text is uninteresting to me, but I have to read it anyway. 2) when I already have an idea of what's written. But when the text is of my interest, I can read it full-attention. Also, I read very fast unintentionally, I think this plays a major role in my ''lack of attention disorder" applied to texts. But it also happens during conversations.

Make the effort of going to at least one psy party while in Japan, it's unique. Avoid Zepp club, my advice.

Gaahhh . How many thousands of dollars have they spent in this stage alone? Have a nice party, tell us after how was it.

I don't know it this should be taken as good. But each to his own. It seems that we can survive without Radi. Though I believe he's actively participating in this forum, under a disguise and a more "normal" attitude.

Listening to this. To many, many people it's the best electronic music ever made. I am one who will always love it, for the memories of good times it brings, for the emotional undertone, for the perfection that is the synth riffs at 2:25 and 4:19. New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle (Substance 1987) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmazuzCXCg

The best one, with a great scene, fans and buckets of money: the Japanese one. I am sure you're aware JR last two works were made by Japanese labels.