MattMan

You've narrowed down this group of people as they've got both a computer and internet. As a student, or a person with an internet bill, probably a job or a student loan. Where there's an income there are priorities. That's why buying CD's could be prioritized over something else. That's why I don't buy your argument.

Malevolent. I love your idea of duplicating other necessities for humans. I've dwelt in that theory myself, mainly because it *perfectly* illustrates the reality and problem with illegal downloading. Here goes. You've got a duplication machine in your pocket - you enter the grocery store, fill your bags with duplicated groceries and leave everything as it was in the store, but also leaving with full bags of groceries. The work put in producing the original groceries is unrewarded - and through the capitalist system, you have not deserved what you've left with. The grocery store has lost profit, but not *money*. This is a direct parallell to p2p - it circumvenes capitalism, and since that's the system that everything else is based on - whatever you may feel about capitalism - that's what we've got, and that's what we ultimately have to bend to. I'm a born realist, and a pragmatist. And if the goal is to change our capitalist ways, then you've got to do it from the ground up, not from the top. Hmm.. Evolution.. Science.. Communist utopia.. I'm not sure how they're *naturally* in harmony. Care to elaborate? (Here comes the pragmatist again): Sure, people may choose whatever lifestyle they like; and if they would want to completely get out of the capitalist society -fine, but don't expect me to pay for your unemployment, your hospital bill, your snowshoveling or anything else.. There should equally be a balance between those who contribute and not - of course with the exception of those who can't. Huh? Why doesn't it work? Be very careful when comparing the "money system" and the people using it... Capitalism in principle is great - it's people's greed that messes it up. That goes for many other things too. What gives you the right to pick and choose how and when to "help out" and "contribute"? Considering p2p downloading - that's an option you have because you *CAN* download music. If you *COULD* steal the orange juice in the grocery store, you could equally tell the clerk that - no, today I choose not to support and help you out, but tomorrow I might! Don't you see that downloading gives an artificial 'choice' that should never be there? p2p and corruption in capitalism is just the same - it's controlled by human greed, because there's an option to do so. Note: i use the "you" form as objective "you". (a person).

I'm reading through the latest posts and I see good argumentation and bad argumentation. There's a pretty twisted morality that says 'stealing from the rich is less immoral than stealing from the poor' - I remember discussing this with Ott on isratrance where he claimed downloading his album was morally worse than downloading Britney's latest. Another thing; the "oh so poor, romanticized music lover who just can't seem to scrape together money for *ANY* of the music they so happen to have to download illegally" is a farce at best. Give me a break. I can use myself as an example - downloading movies and apps - I couldn't care less. I can afford it, but I just couldn't care less to buy it. Now, for music - I could never ever download an album illegally,- I guess I'm emotionally attached, obliged, something. The compact stick could never beat the CD in popularity as it doesn't offer *anything* that the CD doesn't have - this is contrasted between LP's and CD's, and the difference between those. Legal downloading doesn't offer anything different either - except accessability. NEMO: By this you're saying that piracy DOES exist because *few/none* of the people in the world CAN afford the "crazy prices" for music. I think this is overtly naïve. Piracy exists because people's relationship with aquiring music is now through downloading. PAYING for music just doesn't enter the average person's mind nowadays. That's why we have piracy. I'd say 1-2% of people downloading do it because they really, really can't afford the music.

iTunes tells me i'm on my 8th run right now. Timeless music....

This is by far the most technically complex album by Solar Fields to date. It's the perfect mixture between his other ambient albums; I think he touches every one of them. Still he's heavily exploring an even more modern sound. It's his best album to date, and I can only hope 2009 brings us something even more exciting and awe-inspiring, although I doubt it with every bone in my body. This album demands active listening. This is truly a masterpiece. I feel really, really excited about this album. I feel really excited about Solar Fields and the direction and progression he has displayed even since Reflective Frequencies. I can't wait to hear this live. I can't wait to listen to this throughout the summer of 2009.

Yesterday night I came to the conclusion that Movements is the perfect combination of Reflective Frequencies, Blue Moon Station, Leaving Home and Extended. Just even more 'modern', and rhytmic. Granted, I was in a.. psychedelic mindset. "The Stones are not too busy" seemed like an extremely insightful title at the time. I'm happy to say it's his best album yet.

This is probably within top 5 albums ever.

Received it in the mail today. I've listened through now.. First time listen.. And I must say this is, beyond any doubt, one of the most fantastic pieces of music I have ever listened to. This calls for a global celebration.

I remember reading "what is Goa Trance", surfing the various pages back in those days. Great memories. Goa Gil! :posford:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Tantrance-2...e/release/28456 http://www.discogs.com/Various-Tantrance-3...e/release/89110 http://www.discogs.com/Various-Tantrance-5.../release/135616 http://www.discogs.com/Juno-Reactor-Shango/release/72683 http://www.discogs.com/Eat-Static-Abduction/release/27168 VA - Earth Trance http://www.discogs.com/Various-Earth-Trance/release/89025

I've placed my order for the Apsara/Mandala print one - looks sweet!

I also have bad feedback for this Istvan character. Overpriced, and the condition was NOT as he had claimed. Took forever to receive the package (1.5 months).. Steer clear, people!!

Not bad!! But I suspect that Simon character to have tampered with almost every track on that compilation.

Enjoy your harddrive mailfunction and cat-pee all over your backup storage.

I'm travelling to Vancouver this summer - and I'll be sure to be there.

Heheh, you're right. But plastic is the name, and consumption's the game. Fun fact - I work in the Rainforest Foundation - so I scream environment loudest!! People scream environment, and they want people to walk to work rather than driving there. Little did they know that the food production needed to sustain the loss of calories from walking pollutes WAY more than the car pollutes driving the same distance... Think about it!! I propose - digipaks. Paper - cellulose from sustainable deforestation with government subsidies purchasing co2 quotas in line with the pollution from production. That should only set us back, what, €45 per album?

Well, I'm sure a collection of key-chain looking memory sticks would look like rubbish - but just because the medium itself has to change doesn't mean they can't place them in jewel-cases just like CD's, see post #1. I wouldnt mind that - if the compact stick really was the future. The estethics are thus preserved. :posford:

Google "*instrument* frequency spectrum" or the likes. Very easy to find. I must say I'm emotionally attached to the "CD" for what it's worth. That's why I've got difficulties with downloading (buying) albums and new things such as the stick. The minidisc was terrible and I've never been into LP's. For me though, it's all about the speakers / headphones for the final touch of the sound, once everything else is in order. Source quality, digital-to-analouge conversion, cables, amplification etc.

Yes, quality matters, I'll be the first to say it. I'm probably one of the biggest Hi-Fi maniacs I know of, and I've built my home entertainment system with as few bottlenecks as possible. Yet, doing a proper ABX blind-test, I concluded that I couldn't hear a difference between 320kpbs MP3 | 320kpbs WAW | FLAC | CD. I'm tempted to suggest that normal venue PA systems' speakers and amps is a far greater bottleneck in terms of sound quality from source to ear than a 256kpbs MP3 file ever could be compared to FLAC or 320. You're right though, there's no need to compromise quality if you don't have to. You're right, loudness is a recurring factor in many pop/rock albums. ( ) However, I think the quality of the recording of any album matters equally. Ordinairy musical instruments are very dynamic.. It's not hard to understand that some people can hear differences in recordings, and I am taking this seriously... erm.

Ultimae's shop has it too.

Where'd you get this file? 320kbps too... I've pre-ordered the album now.. Looking for the download, of course.

Why isn't this one available on psyshop?

Ding ding ding Pre-orders starting now http://www.ultimae.com/

This is a step back if anything. The CD offers artwork and the possibility for FLAC. If I were to be unable to get the CD, A quick and cheap download would be the next best thing. A flashdrive is rather silly. Anyway - is anyone here capable of hearing the difference between FLAC and 256kpbs MP3? I challenge you.