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Lusine ICL

you could also consider getting Fractal Cowboys out.. their live stuff is completely off the wall insane, very creative and different, some of the tracks are Psy-IDM almost. oodles and oodles of fun.

the trouble is, most of these artists aren't very consistent - they'll put out an awesome track, but the next one will be so-so, and another one sub-par, then they'll come out with something completely mindblowing again.. It also happens with the artist albums - flashes of brilliance, but diluted by too much mediocrity. One of these days I'd like to hear a consistently high-quality album, with no more than 1 or 2 weak tracks, and each track having its own character - no more using the same presets for every track, please. The only artists who (in my opinion) achieved that recently are Talpa and Penta.. though I may be forgetting some.

Double Dragon Quirk Doda almost anything on 21-3 Weirdo Beardo older BLT stuff

Error Corrective can be good. Rastaliens haven't been all that exciting lately, though still better than the 'average' fullon. Random can also be pretty good, his stuff varies from track to track, some are pretty average, some are very nice. You could also check out Wild Things records acts like EVP.. ..and Onnomon - I hear his more recent stuff is more uptempo than it used to be. also check Shotu - I think he's from Mexico, nice tweaky full-onish stuff. Tron also from Mexico.. Barak is quality full-on, though too much on the melodic side for me. Wizack Twizack, Psyboriginal, Nystagmus (from Vancouver!!), Talpa, Nomad are a bit darker, but still very accessible and danceable, and of course, psychedelic. if you catch me on MSN, i could recommend you some tracks to sample..

The sound is supposed to be a lot better, according to Pioneer.

Cosmo - Xxxperimental is one of the best tracks written in that style, imo. Really good.

they're new, DJM-400 and DJM-800

just wait till that post-apocalyptic party in 2013.

I'm just not a big fan of Pioneer mixers in general - the sound quality isn't as good as in other mixers in that price range, and the EQs don't leave room for finesse, imo. They may have fixed that in the new line, don't know yet - they just came out. The good thing is, the Pioneers are the industry standard, easy to use workhorses, and should last for many years.

hehe antiquated, rather. remember, we didn't have no bpm counters back in the day.. we just used to put them black slabs of hardened goop on the wheels and work the pedals underneath to make them spin.

right, the % decreases as the bpm goes up, i had it backwards..

Pioneer just came out with a new mixer line that supposedly fixed the sound quality problems they had with the original DJM line. I'd go for the DJM-400 over the 300, if you must get Pioneer.. there are other good mixers on the market in that price range, like Ecler for example.

I'm a combo architect/inventor http://keirsey.com/personality/ntip.html http://keirsey.com/personality/ntep.html i think it makes more sense with my approach..

...and it begins again...

i think that quote was taken slightly out of context.. i don't advocate fade-mixing, just saying that fader tricks aren't quite as useful with psytrance as with other genres. i personally think most dance music should be beat-matched, see comments above. with ambient and chill, you can get rather creative with the mixes, no need to beatmatch when there's no beat, hehe.

yeah, the 0.7% for 1bpm change only works perfectly around 140bpm. it's 7.5% at 150bpm and 6.5% at 130 bpm. but in between it's never quite perfect and you'll always have to slightly nudge the jog wheel unless you have CDJs that can do, say, 0.72-0.74-0.76% like those new Pioneers. i'd also recommend putting tape over the bpm % thingie and beatmatching by ear for a while, to get the hang of it. once you can do that, you can start using the % counter to help you. try mixing more minimal stuff to start off, you can get the hang of beatmatching easier. play with the levels and the fader, try cutting out the bass and jacking up the mids for fun, do 3 counts on one track - flip to the other for 1 count, and back, etc. try mixing two tracks together for 3-4 minutes and play with the EQs to get the most harmonious sound. get some breakbeats and learn to mix them together, get some DnB and mix that also. put together some longer mixes, record them, listen to them to see what sounds good and what doesn't, which tracks go well together and which don't. fix the mistakes, record again, and listen. it's the best way to learn, imo. after you get the technical stuff down, find some house parties that are willing to let you play, play to your friends and gauge their reactions, that's where the real experience comes from. play on the radio if you can, it teaches you more freeform approach since you don't have to worry about the dancing crowd but you still get live feedback from listeners. with that, maybe in 2 years' time you'll get good enough to play the opening slot at a real party. Then play build-up early slots for a while to learn how to get everyone dancing and not wear them out - good flow is important.. eventually you'll get to play at peak time and then the grrlz will be all over you.

SA=South African - not USA (yet) SF=San Francisco=USA psy

I like Lone Deranger better..

Onnomon

What exactly is "dark psy" ?? the boundaries of the genre are so extremely vague..

yeah, slowed-down full-on, they call it progressive, they can't handle the tempo, what a bunch of pussies.

..man does not live by bread alone..

music is pretty necessary for my survival, don't know about you. maybe you should go without listening to any music for a year or two, see how you feel..

eh, not always.. there's often only a couple of good tracks, the rest are crap. objectively, crap. to remedy the situation, the artists should be paid MORE, not less, so that they have time to work on all of the tracks an equal amount of time, not just one or two.