Dolmot

I try my luck with MFG - New Kind of World, because the 2LP is currently frontmost in a stack of loose records right behind me.

Here's a quick one. Remember to post something in return...

It kind of reminds me of Silicon Trip but not quite...

KLF - What Time Is Love 1988 or so. Quite a classic for sure.

Well, yes and no...there have always been workhorse orchestras/bands playing cover tunes as cheaply as possible. They didn't have to be brilliant, only good enough to bring some audience in. They didn't have to be creative. The same jazz and swing arrangements were played everywhere. If that's not purely commercial performing then what is? Similarly the rock era saw endless "The Whatevers" groups - essentially cloned boy bands of those days. You may have heard of the famous Beatles audition, where Decca stated that "guitar groups are on the way out". That's how generic the concept was already back then. They played mostly cover songs in that session, by the way. It's really nothing new that managers, promoters, record companies etc. try to make a quick buck wherever they can. The big audience is rarely looking for the best talent. Some simple entertainment will go a long way if marketed properly. That's how it's always been. Millions of teens want - and try - to be rock stars just for the money and fame, regardless of their true talent. Of course, nowadays we have autotune and playback tapes so you can occasionally get away with precisely zero talent. Also, in these internet and software days it no longer takes a full studio session to produce something for wide distribution, so more and more people have a chance to try their luck. There's not even the lowest kind of record label filtering to reject the utter failures. But really, check out some 50s top lists and releases. You'll find enormous amounts of copycat concepts, cover tunes, hasty production and cheap tricks. A lot of it has been forgotten for good. For every Beatles there were a thousand unsuccessful clones. I'd say you can find vastly more creativity and originality today. A lot of it will end up being mediocre or plain crap, though. It's the Sturgeon's second law.

Are you serious? I thought it was 1) bad music to begin with, commercial or not 2) immensely hyped in every possible media, thus impossible to avoid 3) officially over in early 2009 But hey...maybe there's a major neo-dubstep movement 15 years later, and you can boast having all the oldschool stuff in original pressing...

Agreed. Definitely one of the most anticipated releases of 2025.

I'd say the intro is sampled from the beginning of Liquid Crystal Vision, consisting of Gil's speech and an ambient track called Visitation Arena. (On the DVD it continues with Shpongle.) Then The Nommos - Djembe Folie from Primal Meltdown is mixed in. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I try to minimise the clanking in my collection, but there are some more rhythmic bits in Desiderii Marginis, Herbst9, Inade, Camanecroszcope, ATOI and Sephiroth, to name a few. Is any of those close to what you're looking for? (Anything faster than that and I'll refuse to call it ambient...)

A poll about musical tastes is subjective? Actually, we get paid by Suntrip to rig the vote. Nobody really likes the music. As an alternative explanation, people who like a certain kind of music will vote for it? "Hate everything else" is something you just made up. Still, it's true that people may prefer some kind of music to something else. ... What's the alternative? To use a deterministic algorithm to calculate the artistic merits of every album? To ban the majority from voting because they're wrong? To replace the majority vote with your opinion, because it's less subjective? OK, you have this somewhat sensible suggestion: It's not as far fetched as one might think first. We are already limiting choices by only including certain genres. We are dividing stuff to up/downtempo, even though sometimes there's a grey area inbetween. However, 1) This division is even harder to make. 2) Three of top ten uptempo albums received less than ten votes. If we split stuff even further, the whole thing will be totally swinged by single individual votes. Not very feasible considering the current participation. 3) I'd say the top 20 is already about half-and-half of your suggested subgenres. It's entirely possible to reach a top spot with modern style releases. They just need to get a bit better. If you want Hujaboy (#86, supported by one voter) to top ten, there's not much else you can do than start your private voting without letting anyone else in. Would it be less subjective then?

Right... The good: They finally released something. The bad: It's bad. I'm not a diehard "1996 only" purist when it comes to AP or trance in general. I enjoyed Amen. I even included One in my "best of 2009" mix. However, this EP is too much. It's a gratinéed loaf of limburger cordon bleu in nacho sauce with occasional parmesan sprinkled on top. Thanks but no thanks. The ugly: I actually expect Duke Nukem Forever to deliver faster and better than AP's album. I wish even a quarter of this DJmag spamming time was spent on discovering deep trance again. Oh well, I'll try to concentrate on the good part after all. Too much negativity going on in these happy hippie circles.

38 replies already? This must be a popular EP.

That probably depends greatly on your definition. I bought this once and thought "heh, psychedelic house", but you may be thinking about something completely different. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_-VwklPCo4 Then there are piles of non-melodic stuff from psy labels as everyone wanted to be similarly innovative since the year 2000 goa crash. A lot of it is called "progressive", even though it's really just house. Who came up with this progressive nonsense? Something like Fabel vs. Antix - Patterns is totally house, but they want to call it psy/progressive trance. Go figure. Pitch it down and it's either hypnotic or boring, depending on your view. I also think that the post-2005 "electro" house trend was among the worst ideas ever. That's when I stopped collecting the whole genre out of frustration, but that's another story.

Sounds good, but all my download attempts pause and crash somewhere around 100MB. Does anyone have a mirror or something?

I don't miss living in a pop. 5000 municipality, where the only music available was a few rock and schlager cassettes in the gas station's bin. No internet as we know it, no specialised radio stations, no way whatsoever to even hear any underground music, let alone buy it. I totally prefer these days of internet, online mixes, streaming samples and Discogs marketplace, thank-you.

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Art of Trance - Octopus (Man With No Name Remix) Unfortunately that hot riff is used quite sparingly in the actual track. It sounds almost better by just looping it.

Astral Projection album...and then we can move to the letter B?

On average either indefferent, annoyed or depressed. Unfortunately. Hm...the vision spilling over into the external world? Rarely anything. Those rare bits.

I think Technossomy's Pyramid still has the best goa mood of all tracks I've heard. Sure, plenty of basic dancefloor pounders have Indian-styled stock samples glued on them, but mostly they just bug me. Often they don't really fit, and they've been used a million times since they appeared on some sample CD in the 90s. Please find some new chants if you absolutely want to use them...

Ulf Söderberg aka Sephiroth? Moody and emotional with plenty of northern/folky touch, field sounds and such. I spent quite a lot of time and money to get the original CDs, and they surely were worth it. From pitch black ambient, try Plague Recordings, for example. They've released some good stuff recently. ATOI's and Wicked Messenger's latest are on my 2009 top list. I have made a few mixes of that style too. Available by request. Or find the dark ambient threads from the "other electronica" subforum. They're oozing with recommendations.

The special effects team spent months on this.

Loke?

Mick Turner has a track named like that on this ambienty CD from 1997... Your description is vague indeed.