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I think Simon’s B-sides and unreleased songs are the best. Maybe because I haven’t heard them as much… Angelic Particles Space Pussy Magik Also, album tracks: Demention Jiggle of the Sphinx Solstice

I would like to continue this thread, as I’ve been trying to find artists new and old from Israel. I’m specifically interested in the more melodic, Goa trance side of things. Artist albums + compilations are both on my list. I’ll get the thread moving with my favorites: Astral Projection Afgin Sykespico MFG Who knows of other artists from Israel? Trying to make an Apple Music playlist mostly of albums, although good individual songs are appreciated as well.

I’ve never met another goa-head. The only artist people here know is Infected Mushroom. You just don’t see it around here— nobody I’ve talked to has heard of it.

I am aware that a lot of us already know people from the forum in real life; on the other hand, there are probably many who only know one another through the forum itself. For anyone who has interest in meeting fellow Goa-heads virtually or, better yet, physically, where we can listen to music together: what part of the world do you live in? I’ll go first: I’m in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. Have hybrid car, will travel.

Can’t go wrong with industrial. Suicide Commando-Jesus Wept (Resurrect V.2020)

Just need the reviews section to pop off again. I’ll come up with a few for 2020-2023. Need to know what’s good!

Tom from Indianapolis (in the States). I’m here quite often. Been into goa/psy since 2005. Listening to a ton of New School Goa these days. Hard to know what’s good with no operational psynews reviews section— I’ll check out Bandcamp + Discogs.

I’m kind of an outsider here (onlooker of 15 years) but I don’t think it’s necessary to exclude people from the conversation. Perhaps we didn’t really understand where the other was coming from based on our words. As far as I’m concerned, this thread should be about the music community, (the psytrance community! at a peace gathering on the border, of all people to be targeted) and about concern for the victims. They were targeted by hateful people (terrorists who don’t represent their community) and those victims should still be alive. Perhaps the rest of the conversation should stay on other forums, and we ~everybody~ should listen as much as we speak (and speak with empathy).

No. This thread is just a place to share in our common humanity. These victims have nothing to do with any of that. This is not the place for that discussion. Do you walk into a funeral and start playing the Devil’s advocate with cancer?

I did it, I found the most melodic trance track. The whole thing is great! The song proper starts at about 2:30, and from then it’s rather melodic. But at 11:30 or so it begins a kickass melody that is probably two and a half minutes long. No lie. It’s a 16-minute track, longest I’ve heard since “…And the Day Turned to Night”, but it doesn’t feel like it. I’m seriously in love with this track. Going to go ahead and check out everything Psy-H Project has ever done.

I've been on the hunt for several days now, and have searched just about every relevant comment on just about every "melodic" or "melodies" post. I've also gone through Suntrip's catalog (specifically the releases that I don't already know somewhat well) up to 2009. Celestial Intelligence write outstanding melodies all the time in every track, rarely repeating a loop once they've moved on to another melody). I haven't put a lot on my playlist otherwise, but I've found some good stuff: Filteria - Wormhole at 4:31 Agneton - In the Heart of a Dying Star at 2:29 And Artifact303 - Feelings And I would be remiss if I didn't feature the song that got me obsessed with melodies in Goa: Celestial Intelligence - Alteration at 2:35 That's the stuff! It's not just playing an arpeggio, noodling around on the same 5 notes in a chord, but really beautiful melodies that could stand on their own in a jazz or prog song. Many of their other songs feature a dozen melodies or more. I looked into nitzhonot, but other than Agneton there's a lot of cheese. After listening to (or remembering) these, can y'all think of anything?

Thanks a billion! He's got a large catalog

Necropost! Happy holidays I've been listening to Celestial Intelligence since last year. Like, nonstop. I'm in danger of wearing it out. I've listened to pretty much everything else in this post as well, and sadly I need a little something else. Astral, Afgin, Filteria, IFO (!), these all do it for me. But nobody does it like my homies from Macedonia C.I. Got anything for a melody fiend? Less is more, really -- if you can think of one or two really kickass artists that'll do me more good than 5 or 10 okay ones. Thanks!

I don't know what to say. I can't say how sorry I am that this has caused your wife pain. I guess this is a conversation that not everyone wants to have who is affected by it. It's the number one conversation taking place in the States right now, so I thought it might be one that it would benefit this board to have.

@Tsotsi Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. It's pedestrian here. I live in a pretty insular community, composed primarily of progressives, so I don't hear that much at all compared with when I lived in the city. But our little oasis is surrounded by rural towns, so we get a lot of Trump supporters and Confederate flag-wavers coming into town for work and stuff. What I was meaning to say was that the author of this book, Reni Eddo-Lodge, says that in Britain, racism is a big problem and nationalism as well. British nationalists are just as afraid of immigrants as the American ones, just as racist, and just as shameless.

That's interesting. I've read one book by a black American woman since the killing of George Floyd, and I'm currently reading one by a black British woman. So it's interesting that you say the UK is an exception to the general rule of nationalism over racism in Europe. Not to say that Britain doesn't have its own nationalism problem, because it does, but the narrative given by this author is that racism is still very much a factor in the way she leads her daily life. It is such an unhealthy big problem here, and I sadly hear so little about other parts of the world sometimes, so that my conception of racism around the world may not be as truly representative as I thought. I still don't think it's easy to be black anywhere other than Africa, and even then you have places like South Africa and a bunch of colonies where there's that intense strain.

No, you hit the nail on the head. It can be an awkward topic in some ways, but I would say it still needs to be had, because it affects every person of color. Also, sorry for writing/deleting/writing again the part about LGBT producers, as noted above I didn't want to attract any negative attention to people who might be put at risk. I hope this conversation about race doesn't do that, either... And Chi-A.D. was the soundtrack for my second and most influential Goawakening.

I'm looking for any and all people of color, Israelis included. Basically anyone who's the target of racial discrimination in the States and in Britain, at least. I would also extend this to include LGBT producers, but I wouldn't want to invite the ire of any homophobes.

I corrected my statement to acknowledge that sharing the names of black and brown members of the trance community necessarily involves talking about people who are not white. But that's where I intended the conversation to end. And skin color is an issue. It is on account of non-white skin color that a good portion and in some cases the majority of many countries' populations are treated as second-class citizens to the dominant culture, which is mostly comprised of white people. In the States and in most predominantly white countries, black and brown people are disproportionately targeted by the legal and other social systems and bear a large burden that goes underacknowledged by society at large. I hope that you understand that I only wanted to acknowledge the contributions of certain people who face varying levels of obstacles in succeeding or even surviving in a lot of areas of life. Theirs is a unique burden to bear in general society. I hope that isn't the case in this diverse community of hippies.

Now that this has become one of "those" conversations on race, I must reply on behalf of the people of color who may or may not be watching in on this conversation, hoping to find representation in an overwhelmingly white community. "People of color" is a term applied to non-white people, who are the target of personal and institutional racism in most of the world. Racism is discrimination plus power.

I understand the irony of bringing up a discussion on race and then saying that I don't want to have a conversation on race, but what I mean is I don't want to have one of those toxic internet conversations on race.

Please don't make this a conversation about race. But does anybody know who among goa trance producers are people of color?

I first heard Goa in 2005 with Hallucinogen's Twisted, and started listening to The Lone Deranger every day on my bike ride to and from work in 2008. I started listening to a whole lot more albums. But my real love affair with Goa wasn't until 2009 when I turned on Chi-A.D. -- Earth Crossing and spent several hours listening to Book of Eden and Hammerhead, trying to follow the changes from the start to the end. It took me a long time to make it through each track. That's when I decided that Goa was my thing and not psy. Some of the other early artists I started listening to were Pigs in Space, Color Box, MFG, Astral Projection, and soon Filteria. From there on, it was no looking back.

1. Celestial Intelligence - Incandescent (!) 2. Psylent Buddhi - Secrets of the Atom 3. Katedra - We Are Not Alone 4. Sykespico - Perspective 5. Ultimate Xperience - Realm of a New Dawn 6. Pete & Pan - Return of the Goddess 7. E-Mantra - Tartarus 8. Median Project - Constellation 9. Xamanist - Out of Time 10. Sky Technology - Rainbow Spirit

Happy New Year! Now I just can't wait for the best of 2019 and the best of the 2010s polls to get going...