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Hello ... I have managed without another 911 call so far. Tonight I'd say it's the first time that there is a little bit of light shimmering in the tunnel ... let's hope it won't be a train.

What is odd is that the temperature rose to 37,5 yesterday and I got a bit of a sore throat now - but I believe this might be my own immune system finally checking "hey, there is something in the system that we need to get rid of". I'll watch it closely, but I feel a bit better ("better by the margin of the thickness of a coin" is the wording that came to me in the night) ... so I'll just hang on.

I have came across this video and I am now in a good enough state to watch what this "thing" is doing to me ... really interesting - and it also explains the blood coughing in my opinion. You should watch it, it might prevent damage:

Cytokine storms are mentioned too - but they don't seem so dangerous, it's just a natural body reaction, right? Or did I miss something there?

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Cytokine storms are mentioned too - but they don't seem so dangerous, it's just a natural body reaction, right? Or did I miss something there?

i think you missed something there. worst case scenario; they are extremely dangerous and basically its the immune system going into hyperdrive killing all your internal organs in the process, causing heart attacks and god knows what else, and results in death. and there is no known cure for it. 

but, its not fatal all the times, many people here in sweden seem to pull through, after said storm. i think the numbers here are 80% living through the Intensive care unit, where all the cytokine storm and hypoxemia patients are. 

Theres also doctors saying the oxygen thing is like high altitude sickness, and that the lungs are okay and the damage to the lungs seen in pictures (the white lungs) are from ventilators themselves damaging the lungs. but somehow there is not a transmission of oxygen from the lungs to the bloodstream.

 

hopefully they figure this thing out sooner than later and can correctly start to treat people, god knows how many lungs have been damaged due to overcompression from the ventilators :/ when in fact the problem lies elsewhere.

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3 hours ago, astralprojection said:

i think you missed something there. worst case scenario; they are extremely dangerous and basically its the immune system going into hyperdrive killing all your internal organs in the process, causing heart attacks and god knows what else, and results in death. and there is no known cure for it. 

but, its not fatal all the times, many people here in sweden seem to pull through, after said storm. i think the numbers here are 80% living through the Intensive care unit, where all the cytokine storm and hypoxemia patients are. 

hopefully they figure this thing out sooner than later and can correctly start to treat people, god knows how many lungs have been damaged due to overcompression from the ventilators :/ when in fact the problem lies elsewhere.

uh, thanks for clarifying ... I indeed missed something there then about the Cytokine storms :( ... sounds not good at all

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Theres also doctors saying the oxygen thing is like high altitude sickness, and that the lungs are okay and the damage to the lungs seen in pictures (the white lungs) are from ventilators themselves damaging the lungs. but somehow there is not a transmission of oxygen from the lungs to the bloodstream.

YES! I am no doctor but I would agree ... an awful lot of this sickness reminds me of my pneumonia in Peru which was in high altitude, symptoms are similar ... only the blood was not there back then. The doctors who checked me saw no damaged lungs, but I have trouble getting enough air - there definitely is not enough oxygen passing into the bloodstream I would say! Bronchodilatadors help a little with this, fortunately...

Please everybody stay safe!! All the best!!

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20 hours ago, RTP said:

uh, thanks for clarifying ... I indeed missed something there then about the Cytokine storms :( ... sounds not good at all

YES! I am no doctor but I would agree ... an awful lot of this sickness reminds me of my pneumonia in Peru which was in high altitude, symptoms are similar ... only the blood was not there back then. The doctors who checked me saw no damaged lungs, but I have trouble getting enough air - there definitely is not enough oxygen passing into the bloodstream I would say! Bronchodilatadors help a little with this, fortunately...

Please everybody stay safe!! All the best!!

Man please get to a respirator if you have even worse trouble breathing. :s I hope it gets better.

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17 hours ago, Penzoline said:

Man please get to a respirator if you have even worse trouble breathing. :s I hope it gets better.

Thanks, yes I was monitoring it closely ... it's now slowly getting better here - so I don't think I need it. Hoping that it will go further up ... it looks like it! I was able to sleep in the night and feel better today.

The reason why I was reluctant to call 911 is: in the hospital I might suffer from additional infection - especially the one they took me to, my dad was in there some months ago and he developed a bad lung inflammation which he contacted in the hospital - which fortunately was cured with antibiotics, but I suspect that is one of these hospital germs ... and I'm afraid of those, because if Covid-19 and these come together, it's really bad.
I called around doctors if somebody would get me some oxygen ... but nobody of them could. I managed with the bronchodilatador alone.
And since the problems were only there in the night, I tried to lie awake more and then sleep on the day...

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On 4/14/2020 at 8:39 PM, RTP said:

The things that happen with the tests here are really a mess. I still have no result from the first two...

Yes, the hypopnea / apnea is very strange also to all doctors I talked to about it. I am suspecting that I had a condition already and the virus worsened it greatly. I was a snorer, as people who I traveled with reported - and I have had the occasional case of being not well rested after the night. But never to this extent ... so I suspect that the virus made it greatly worse -- would be logical: the lungs can currently not take the strain of my "ordinary sleep apnea condition" (which was hardly noticeable before) now that they are stressed out with the Covid-19...

I don't take any opioids, don't need them as I have not much of a cough.

I have been prescribed a bronchodilatador (emergency asthma medication) - this helps with breathing in the night, but it does not fully cure the process that I do not breathe by myself. It's very weird. I have to watch it closely and call ambulance if it's not bearable - will do that.

Fever is of no use at all as an indicator. I have just a bit raised temperature such as 37,2...

that seems like the most likely explanation. if you had very mild sleep apnea you might not have noticed it before and not need any sort of treatment usually, it could very well become noticable when you have an infection in your lungs.

 

On 4/16/2020 at 1:25 PM, RTP said:

 Cytokine storms are mentioned too - but they don't seem so dangerous, it's just a natural body reaction, right? Or did I miss something there?

 

On 4/16/2020 at 4:20 PM, astralprojection said:

i think you missed something there. worst case scenario; they are extremely dangerous and basically its the immune system going into hyperdrive killing all your internal organs in the process, causing heart attacks and god knows what else, and results in death. and there is no known cure for it. 

but, its not fatal all the times, many people here in sweden seem to pull through, after said storm. i think the numbers here are 80% living through the Intensive care unit, where all the cytokine storm and hypoxemia patients are. 

Theres also doctors saying the oxygen thing is like high altitude sickness, and that the lungs are okay and the damage to the lungs seen in pictures (the white lungs) are from ventilators themselves damaging the lungs. but somehow there is not a transmission of oxygen from the lungs to the bloodstream.

hopefully they figure this thing out sooner than later and can correctly start to treat people, god knows how many lungs have been damaged due to overcompression from the ventilators :/ when in fact the problem lies elsewhere.

we had a whole semester course on hypoxia/lung failure at university.

so yeah, a cytokine storm is not just a normal reaction of the immune system. it's going into overdrive releasing so many messenger molecules that attract too many immune cells to the point of inflammation leading to tissue damage and making all those immune cells clog your blood vessels. this is ultimately what causes multi-organ failure because the oxygen in your lungs cannot be transported to the rest of the body without the appropriate blood flow. also the organs that receive most blood flow in your body (kidneys) can also get clogged.

the good news is that it's not something to worry about at home. it's rather what gets you from serious but stable condition when you're already in the intensive care unit to a 50/50 chance of survival.

 

the ventilators do cause lung damage if you're on them for too long (they also increase the chances of superinfection), but no one is put on a ventilator if it's not strictly necessary. doctors know the dangers of ventilators well enough. so when you cannot get the oxygen you need by breathing normally you'll first be given oxygen. as you increase the oxygen concentration of the air you get from 20% to almost 100% you can get (roughly estimated) five times the amount of oxygen per breath as you'd usually would. this is enough for most cases and only if the condition worsens enough that this is still not sufficient to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream people will be put on a ventilator.

 

On 4/18/2020 at 10:36 AM, RTP said:

Thanks, yes I was monitoring it closely ... it's now slowly getting better here - so I don't think I need it. Hoping that it will go further up ... it looks like it! I was able to sleep in the night and feel better today.

The reason why I was reluctant to call 911 is: in the hospital I might suffer from additional infection - especially the one they took me to, my dad was in there some months ago and he developed a bad lung inflammation which he contacted in the hospital - which fortunately was cured with antibiotics, but I suspect that is one of these hospital germs ... and I'm afraid of those, because if Covid-19 and these come together, it's really bad.
I called around doctors if somebody would get me some oxygen ... but nobody of them could. I managed with the bronchodilatador alone.
And since the problems were only there in the night, I tried to lie awake more and then sleep on the day...

good to hear you're feeling better!

staying out of hospital is definitely a good idea if you don't need it. getting a bacerial superinfection in the hospital together with covid was a problem in china in february.

bronchodilators are effective first line treatment here. i give them out to people with all kinds of respiratory infections multiple times every day. i'm no doctor but i don't think oxygen would have been the right next step here with you having no troubles breathing at day. it's rather something usually given to copd patients or in hospitals. for more serious sleep apnea a cpap-mask is the standard treatment. it just applies a little pressure to keep the airways open as usual at night despite the muscles around the throat area relaxing. but even this would be overkill right now imho.

anyway, a speedy recovery! (i'm sure you'll be much better soon. the usual time between first complaints to a doctor and recovery is somewhere around two weeks)

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Hello ... an update again, I have been staying low the past 2 weeks and it got better, I was able to go out again ... and yesterday I was at the lung doctor and got a check up: lungs are OK.

I do still have the one or other bad night ... but I hope that it will not go really bad again. I have returned to work and so far I'm alright.

Sports will have to wait. For the moment I am "NRTP" : "not running to psytrance" ...

The doctor recommeded me a check for sleep apnea which will be done in June in first steps ... if I get results, I might post them here for completion.

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thanks for the update. i was a little worried not seeing any posts for the last two weeks. good to hear you're feeling better. 
though i am surprised that it takes such a long time. this virus sure is a nasty thing…

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Yes it sucks really bad to hear the news from USA - I have sympathy for you people ... I hope the winter is not going to f*k you over, hopefully you'll be through the worst before it comes...

Cases rising here in Europe too though ... people coming home from "Ballermann" bringing the sickness - a "Summer Ischgl"...

:unsure:

What is very odd is, that I have had the feeling of a strange taste and smell the last days - this kind of smell (slightly metallic and "bloody") I remember from the time when I was sick ... never made a big deal about it, but now that I am tasting it again it feels funny ... mabe it is indeed coming back? ("coming back" as in "germ concentration rising again")

(it's interesting, people say "loss of taste and smell", but I don't belive it's complete loss, it's just that this metallic taste overshadows everything, that's how I would put it ... it feels like you have eaten something very very hot (although you didn't) and burnt your tongue = you taste less, not nothing, but less ... know what I mean?)

But actually, believing what experts say - that you have not much immunity and are immune only for a short time - the re-infection or "coming in contact with the virus again" can MAYBE even have a good side: when the virus is not completely gone but the body encounters it still (in sub-sickening concnetrations), the defenses maybe remmber the virus longer and will not entirely stop the antibody production, thus maybe resulting in greater resistency or even immunity when the virus returns "big time" in winter...?

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1 hour ago, RTP said:

Cases rising here in Europe too though ... people coming home from "Ballermann" bringing the sickness - a "Summer Ischgl"...

:unsure:

But actually, believing what experts say - that you have not much immunity and are immune only for a short time - the re-infection or "coming in contact with the virus again" can MAYBE even have a good side: when the virus is not completely gone but the body encounters it still (in sub-sickening concnetrations), the defenses maybe remmber the virus longer and will not entirely stop the antibody production, thus maybe resulting in greater resistency or even immunity when the virus returns "big time" in winter...?

sadly, people are really getting careless now (i also understand it a little. i too want this shit to be over and finally go to parties again). right where i work we are austria's hotspot now.  and almost daily people are coming in to ask for directions to the corona test station…

 

that's a definite possibility (just to be clear, the virus has to be gone from the body, but the immune system does keep some memory even if it's not enough for complete immunity). with some other coronaviruses you can get infected by exactly the same virus again after a year or two. maybe the only reason they aren't as serious as covid-19 is that we all have aquired a bit of immunity because everyone has already come in contact with them as children? who knows?

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I really feel for the Americans. Let alone covid but election coming up, with two morons, and then you have the lockdowns and youre losing your lifesavings and the BLM riots going on, and just average murder rates going up especially in Boston, wtf is going on in Boston? Well, this whole world has gone to shit and every day I live I consider a lease. It shouldnt have to be like this, but what can you do.

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22 hours ago, Padmapani said:

i also understand it a little. i too want this shit to be over and finally go to parties again

I fully understand that ... yes, three times yes, we all want it to be over (well maybe really bad people don't, but we don't care about these) ... however, it may not be taken lightly. One overlooked cluster and you are back to the start. I think it's better to cut down on partying this year and then we can be the merrier next year in return...

It's bad to hear that from your town ... I hope the situation does not escalate ... at the moment it's getting worse still, I'm even a little worried to stop for a break on the motorway in that area (mostly I have to go for a wee around there) ... have been procrastrinating a few travels, but I can't procrastrinate forever. Then again, we here aren't any better - cases in Vienna are rising too.

22 hours ago, astralprojection said:

Well, this whole world has gone to shit and every day I live I consider a lease. It shouldnt have to be like this, but what can you do.

I have begun to think, what if we, as humanity, really have seen the peak of "everything", the best state possible? We have been there in 2019. At the peak. Now we are below again, we still see the peak, it's "just up there", but I don't think we will climb it again. Not in our life. First there's still Coronavirus to beat - and this might be a very long race - then we will face ever-worsening climate problems (38 degrees Celsius in Siberia already right now ... I mean, come on) ... it's going to be tough. And it's a really de-motivating outlook that it will all only get worse, slowly and not steadily, but still in downwards direction...?

"Whatever you wanna do in life, do it now, it'll only get worse with time." ...

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My hopes of attending ZNA next summer feel like a pipe dream right now. Few countries are even allowing USA passports to travel into their countries and this will likely hold until a vaccine is approved and released. Maybe if we get a new government in place after this election we can get some global collaboration going on but the election is still four months away...

 

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So it's 4 months later since the last post in this thread now -- and unfortunately almost everything has changed for the worse here.

AUSTRIA is the country with the 5th highest infection rate per 100k people (positive return rate per 100k tests) _worldwide_ right now ... that's right: USA, India - all behind us.
Not many people on this forum will live in a country with higher positive test return rates.

We are in second "lockdown" - which is a joke though, you can go out and even get Coffee to Go, nobody will say anything.

And top of all: I woke up in the middle of last night with a very peculiar metallic blood taste at the back of my throat which reminds me very much of the shit I went through in March...
You can imagine how happy I was about it ... I panicked so hard I couldn't sleep for a long time after that.
The metallic taste is gone, but I have a strange feeling of a foreign object in my throat that does not go away no matter how hard I swallow. It's nothing I panic over right now, but I think it will be different in the night if it doesn't get better, I assure you of that...

That thing with the metallic taste is especially significant because: it apparently is FINALLY talked out loud that hemoptysis alone can be a symptom of Covid-19 - has not reached mainstream doctors, but first publications are available: https://bmcpulmmed.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12890-020-01312-6
I strongly believe that what they write about here is the same manifestation of Covid that befell me in March, alhough I was fortunate enough not to catch it so severely that they had to put me in hospital - and I "fortunately" had a positive swab test, otherwise we'd be none the wiser until this day!

Chaos all over...

Sounds weird, but: I hope you did what you wanted to do in this life. I don't think good times will roll so soon again for us all...
Did I do what I wanted to do in life? Well, fairly yes - I maybe should have written more (wanted to become a writer) and it was stupid of me to be lazy and give up blacklight painting, talking french (lost that ability) and maybe I should have travelled more, but travel was fairly okay with approximately one trip each year. Had I known it would come to this, I'd have done more, but I didn't know. Partying was fine - purists may give a weird look and say "what, so little?", but I don't care because I feel fine :) - that is most important ... I also feel fine about my video game consumption. No regrets. Friends? Fairly okay, but I could have done a bit more in this department, calling people more up, keeping in contact more. Girls? Not fine at all! But I am enough of a realist that I say I'd be as timid or stupid next time I'd come into those "girl situations" again ... just isn't my thing. Maybe I knew I needed my capacity for something else instead of messing with girls - i.e. having my kind of fun. I'm not unhappy about it.
Career decisions may have not been optimal, but are meaningless to me - best was to give up the second university study and focus on having the last bit of a good time in life!

What about you?

Edit (so this doesn't come across as a total depressant): don't worry I have not lost motivation and I think I will (or should) also make a post stating the goals / outlooks I still have, even despite the current situation.
Oh and I have a GF right now, so I don't wanna say "Girls = all went bad" ... could have been better (lots better) in my youth though :D

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Did I do what I wanted in life? Hardly. I guess I had some good times in my 20s but I wasn’t as social as most people. I haven’t accomplished anything. Haven’t made any music in a long time. I’ve got various electronic projects in the works, but at this point in life I pretty much just feel like I’m waiting around to die.

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On 11/20/2020 at 10:32 PM, RTP said:

AUSTRIA is the country with the 5th highest infection rate per 100k people (positive return rate per 100k tests) _worldwide_ right now ... that's right: USA, India - all behind us.
Not many people on this forum will live in a country with higher positive test return rates.

We are in second "lockdown" - which is a joke though, you can go out and even get Coffee to Go, nobody will say anything.

 

What about you?

if you don't count tiny countries like andorra, then we're at the #1 spot now. things are not looking good. almost 1% of the population is currently diagnosed with an active sars-cov-2 infection in the area where i live. indeed, the lockdown is a joke and if we open the country when they say, we'll be up where we were a week ago in no time.

 

i'd write something very similar to your paragraph on that. only no gf at the moment, which is not likely to change any time soon due to the coronavirus which is a bit of a downer.
also work wise if you had asked me 10 years ago, i'd have imagined working on a vaccine rather than taking nasal swabs to test for covid. i blame that on capitalism.

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I decided to stop drinking alcohol. 

Not sure if it's topic related, but I don't wanna live life in a tired, depressive haze when I have no energy and say and do things I regret all the time. Lately I began to feel suicidal after i was drunk each time. 

 

Got myself to the ICU, and am now at hour 48h.

First 12-24h they tried diazepam, got 90mg but was unresponsive. 155/115 blood pressure, 150 heart rate. 

Then they switched to Clomethiazole. Two capsules 4 times a day. Blood pressure have yet to drop but heart rate is around 105.

I had 3.3 per mille when admitted. (I'm not sure why I drank so much that day, 3.3 is literally insane.) 

I hope I get better soon. They want to keep me here at least 2 more days to make sure I don't get DT. 

I've drunk every day for almost 2 years now, but on and off for roughly 10 years.. 

 

So if you ever wanna change something about your life for the better, now is the time to do it. Hope this comment is worth something to someone. Take care everyone. 

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Jep - welcome to Austria, the country with the "quite highest" rates of positive tests ... but we don't need to worry because the news are declaring the situation already to "relax" :rolleyes:
They probably will open for xmas because "economy" ... and they we'll be in the same spot in January :unsure:

At least my throat relaxed and the taste is gone. Hope it stays that way.

On 11/22/2020 at 5:51 PM, Padmapani said:

i'd write something very similar to your paragraph on that. only no gf at the moment, which is not likely to change any time soon due to the coronavirus which is a bit of a downer.

Well, I can't really see my GF in these times because she does not live in Vienna. Even though the Lockdown is a joke and I could visit her, we are both not doing that ... especially not right now ... thus I don't feel so much better off.
But I second that "dating" or going out trying to talk to girls is practically not doable in Corona times ... maybe just pass the time with a nice computer game or two and then get going when the days get longer and brighter again. (And if you don't game, then paint or write or learn a language or work for whatever other goal you have :) )
I think girls must feel the same way though. Corona doesn't erase people's wishes...

4 hours ago, astralprojection said:

I decided to stop drinking alcohol. 

Not sure if it's topic related, but I don't wanna live life in a tired, depressive haze when I have no energy and say and do things I regret all the time. Lately I began to feel suicidal after i was drunk each time. 

 

Got myself to the ICU, and am now at hour 48h.

First 12-24h they tried diazepam, got 90mg but was unresponsive. 155/115 blood pressure, 150 heart rate. 

Then they switched to Clomethiazole. Two capsules 4 times a day. Blood pressure have yet to drop but heart rate is around 105.

I had 3.3 per mille when admitted. (I'm not sure why I drank so much that day, 3.3 is literally insane.) 

I hope I get better soon. They want to keep me here at least 2 more days to make sure I don't get DT. 

I've drunk every day for almost 2 years now, but on and off for roughly 10 years.. 

 

So if you ever wanna change something about your life for the better, now is the time to do it. Hope this comment is worth something to someone. Take care everyone. 

That was really horrible to read about ... I hope you are OK mate.
3.3 is absolutely off the top and I hope you won't do that again - but I imagine it to be super hard if you try it on your own ... have you got some help or support from the AA or from Doctors? Hope so.

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On 11/21/2020 at 1:28 AM, Veracohr said:

Did I do what I wanted in life? Hardly. I guess I had some good times in my 20s but I wasn’t as social as most people. I haven’t accomplished anything. Haven’t made any music in a long time. I’ve got various electronic projects in the works, but at this point in life I pretty much just feel like I’m waiting around to die.

Hey ... don't know if this helps, but maybe try doing something you want to get done for just two minutes a day (or even just two minutes a week)? I read that this helps ... important is that you do it for two minutes though. It tricks one's brain and often you end up doing it longer - or if not, then it's nothing for you anyway because your brain doesn't feel like doing it...

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6 hours ago, RTP said:

 

That was really horrible to read about ... I hope you are OK mate.
3.3 is absolutely off the top and I hope you won't do that again - but I imagine it to be super hard if you try it on your own ... have you got some help or support from the AA or from Doctors? Hope so.

I'm sure AA can work for many people. 

To me it's a bit of a bunk science.. 

It's really an echo chamber where you sit around a table and everyone starts by saying hi my name is X And I'm an alcoholic ", constantly affirming yourself that you are an alcoholic. Everyone says the same things." today it was really bad yada yada ". 

To me it was extremely negative, nothing positive about it at all. And the fact that you constantly affirm yourself each time that you are an alcoholic - isn't really gonna progress your state of mind into something better. I'm not in the belief that once an alcoholic - always an alcoholic. I'm a firm believer that you can change your life/mindset around and the echo chamber that is those AA meetings keeps you in a perpetual state of being an alcoholic even if you stopped drinking, cause that's what you tell yourself and others each meeting. 

Anyway, if it works to keep people of booze then fine but it also keeps you stuck in the mentality that you're forever an alcoholic and I don't think that's a healthy mindset to have. Alcoholism is not a disease in my book, it's an addiction and once you break it I will never sit around calling myself an alcoholic year after year in those meetings. Negative affirmation isn't good I think. 

And to anyone reading that AA has worked for, then great on you and I'm by no means taking anything away from anyone, this is just my opinion on it as its certainly not for everyone. 

Hope I didn't come off as defensive :)

Thank you for your comment! 

 

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Fair enough. I have no experience with the AAs.

I am "lucky enough" that I get terribly sick when I drink too much. Way worse than what people call a hangover. I _have to_ keep my intake low, there is no other way. That's the reason why I have not yet developed an addiction.

There's a drug that you can take which will invoke the same symptoms: it'll make you sick when you drink alcohol. Is that a possibility for you?

Best of luck that you beat it either way.

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On 11/23/2020 at 10:53 PM, RTP said:

Jep - welcome to Austria, the country with the "quite highest" rates of positive tests ... but we don't need to worry because the news are declaring the situation already to "relax" :rolleyes:
They probably will open for xmas because "economy" ... and they we'll be in the same spot in January :unsure:

At least my throat relaxed and the taste is gone. Hope it stays that way.

Well, I can't really see my GF in these times because she does not live in Vienna. Even though the Lockdown is a joke and I could visit her, we are both not doing that ... especially not right now ... thus I don't feel so much better off.
But I second that "dating" or going out trying to talk to girls is practically not doable in Corona times ... maybe just pass the time with a nice computer game or two and then get going when the days get longer and brighter again. (And if you don't game, then paint or write or learn a language or work for whatever other goal you have :) )
I think girls must feel the same way though. Corona doesn't erase people's wishes...

yeah. the hospitals are working over their capacity, ages is cheating with the data (adding new available beds every time we hit 100% occupancy here in upper austria, while everyone knows that the personnell and machines available don't change),  and the biggest worries we hear in the media is the profits of ski lift operators.

have you seen the documentary in orf a few days ago? a woman there complained about having almost everything smell like rotten onions for months. so your smell and taste is back to normal now? how many months has it taken to return to normal?

good to hear of someone acting responsibly. apart from my family and closest friends i don't see anyone taking it seriously at all. even at work where people should know better we've had a colleage break the lockdown rules and meet lots of people, including k1 and now she's been tested positive. i tested everyone at work yesterday with an antigen test and will do so again next week (we still cannot be sure if she infected anyone else in the meantime. antigen tests not always turn up positive in the first few days, damn that wide range of possible incubation periods).

i do write music in the meantime, but creativity isn't as easy to come by as usual atm…

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Im out off the ICU now, since yesterday and feeling allright I guess. Got tested for Covid too since we had it in the unit. But came back negative thank god. Dont think my body would have been fit to fight covid right now.

@RTP

Thanks brother, I totally got the sentiment of your comment and appreciate the kind words. Yeah that drug is called Antabuse (Disulfram) and Im currently on that. So even if I wanted to drink I would get very sick (or at least extremely uncomfortable). But I have no cravings at all, and Im very thankful for that. The worst thing now is that my dopamine/endorphin-regulation is way off, and I cant seem to find content in doing pretty much anything. Thats the "sickness" of addiction and it will take months if not years - to heal, so that I can feel happy from "normal" things again. Its gonna be rough but Im very thankful to be off booze for the first time in like, I dont even know.

And in case anyone is interested in pharmacology Im also on Quetiapine, Alimemazine, Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine. I am personally really interested in medications and the effects on the body and mind (I have erhm, "experimented" quite a bit in my days :rolleyes:) And some beta blockers and B-vitamins. Quite a bit of meds I guess but it takes what it takes!

Id also like to take this opportunity to apologize for my alcohol-fueled rantings and ravings over the years on here. Cringe to say the least.

 

Hope everyone is doing allright!! I dont envy anyone working in the medical field, and I dont envy anyone in countries heavily affected by this shit virus. (Sweden is heavily affected I guess if you look at the numbers - but honestly I dont see it/feel it) Btw - Are you guys gonna take the vaccine? I will NOT take it. At least not until its been at least 1 year and its proven safe and effective.

There was never a coronavirus vaccine before, not for the common cold or anything else - and now theres one that has only taken a year to produce while normally vaccines takes 5+ years to make. Im cautios.

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6 hours ago, astralprojection said:

Btw - Are you guys gonna take the vaccine? I will NOT take it. At least not until its been at least 1 year and its proven safe and effective.

There was never a coronavirus vaccine before, not for the common cold or anything else - and now theres one that has only taken a year to produce while normally vaccines takes 5+ years to make. Im cautios.

i'm not gonna get a vaccination of one of the new vaccines (astra, moderna, sputnik) at least for a few months and until a few ten thousand people had gotten it. i'm also skeptical of how these were pushed though in such a short timeframe. however i'd take the chinese vaccine on day one (but i don't suspect it to turn up in europe any time soon). that one is based on tried and proven methods, although it probably won't be as effective as the others. i'm still waiting on the companies releasing the whole data from their now ongoing phase 3 studies until i make a decision. right now everyone is claiming >90% protection, which seems a little dodgy.

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