Ov3rdos3 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I think rains theory is good. Psynews is great because we can post what we want basically. The offtopic and freestyle is where you need to be if you want to post loads of irrelivant shit. I do beleive that the reviews section should be moderated to the point were we cannot spam or fill it with crap. even if we wanted to. a single post per person, per review is not a bad idea at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I think rains theory is good. Psynews is great because we can post what we want basically. The offtopic and freestyle is where you need to be if you want to post loads of irrelivant shit. I do beleive that the reviews section should be moderated to the point were we cannot spam or fill it with crap. even if we wanted to. a single post per person, per review is not a bad idea at all. 381169[/snapback] thank you... it's only an idea... we can have 2 post/user... we can choose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Yeah, until something else is in place, that idea is not bad at all. I thought about it yesterday but didnt want to post it, because I though it would sound too "nazi". Thanks Rain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 thank you... it's only an idea... we can have 2 post/user... we can choose... 381171[/snapback] i don't think there is a need for limitation. people just have to acknoledge the importance of the reviews section to be kept clean. and then the reviews section will moderate itself .. without mods having to set limits. and then nobody will spam it, or if they do, nobody will get angry to see spam posts deleted by mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 i don't think there is a need for limitation. people just have to acknoledge the importance of the reviews section to be kept clean. and then the reviews section will moderate itself .. without mods having to set limits. and then nobody will spam it, or if they do, nobody will get angry to see spam posts deleted by mods. 381185[/snapback] Well, see how it works. if people abide by the rules, then there will be no need for moderation / post limits etc. If they dont though, then there is obviously no other choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krelmatrix Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 listen .. i don't think there is a REAL NEED of change. Yeah, this is my whole point exactly! A couple people bitching (perhaps out of more personal reasons, eh?) doesn't justify trying to change a system that seems to work fine for the vast majority of users. There's always people who are going to complain about something. That doesn't mean that it's suddenly a huge problem! It's like overhauling the entire public transit system in a city because a couple people who live out in the boondocks complain that it takes too long for them to get home. uh oh... <looks down> <covers up offical "moni fan club" shirt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I just added a poll, because I dont want to lose the overview of what people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SOLO Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) I still say that it's much better just to leave the review section to reviews and then people can open up threads as much as they want in other sections. The point is that a review with too many comments (spam or not) over time will drown in those comments and people that are looking for a review have to go through all these comments and spam to get to the essense of the review... the review itself. So I do think we need a change. And let's look at the Voice Of Cod review as an example. How many of the comments/spam are relevant for the review there? And even Moni got "upset" on "page 1" and asked people to write reviews instead of spamming. Edited November 14, 2005 by SOLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Well, see how it works. if people abide by the rules, then there will be no need for moderation / post limits etc. If they dont though, then there is obviously no other choice. 381186[/snapback] we have a Reviewing rules/ guidelines thread in the Reviews Section. those rules should be clear and respected. setting post limits per person is kinda hard. Fluffy, take off your shirt!!! *oops, this is not a sex thread* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I just added a poll, because I dont want to lose the overview of what people think. 381197[/snapback] nemo, there should be more options in the poll. you just set the extreme opinnions. damn it, this is getting all a big fuzz over 2 people that don't like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I still say that it's much better just to leave the review section to reviews and then people can open up threads as much as they want in other sections. The point is that a review with too many comments (spam or not) over time will drown in those comments and people that are looking for a review have to go through all these comments and spam to get to the essense of the review... the review itself. So I do think we need a change. And let's look at the Voice Of Cod review as an example. How many of the comments/spam are relevant for the review there? And even Moni got "upset" on "page 1" and asked people to write reviews instead of spamming. 381199[/snapback] I agree and voted Yes, lets try to make a nicer and better system. let's see in the future where the poll will end damn it, this is getting all a big fuzz over 2 people that don't like me. 381202[/snapback] we allready had that and it's been deleted, appologies are been done on both sides... just leave it that way... and stay on topic please... I know you will accept that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I agree and voted Yes, lets try to make a nicer and better system. let's see in the future where the poll will end 381203[/snapback] yes Rain, let's .. but your idea of making it better may not be similar to my idea of making it better for example. thus i will not vote. those 2 options for voting are not good enough for me. nemo, you kindof suck at polls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SOLO Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) so let's see what the poll outcome says. Edited November 14, 2005 by SOLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 edited .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 yes Rain, let's .. but your idea of making it better may not be similar to my idea of making it better for example. thus i will not vote. those 2 options for voting are not good enough for me. nemo, you kindof suck at polls 381205[/snapback] Well, YOUR option for the poll was hardly an option was it? This is a simple YES or NO question. If we vote YES, then we can discuss what we WANT. If we vote NO, then we dont make any changes at ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaySatanicHippie Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Leave it the way it is!!!! Stop setting all these rules and stop creating hundreds of subsections of subsections. Just because one or two people dont like it the way it is, doesnt mean you have o shut it up. Actually, I thought about it for a while, and I think its one of the strength of our review section tha it is open and free, Music is emotional and alive, why shouldnt we set those emotions free in the reviews and have living discussion about the various releases and reviews. It would be so sterile and boring when you only have serious reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SOLO Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) Leave it the way it is!!!! Stop setting all these rules and stop creating hundreds of subsections of subsections. Just because one or two people dont like it the way it is, doesnt mean you have o shut it up. Actually, I thought about it for a while, and I think its one of the strength of our review section tha it is open and free, Music is emotional and alive, why shouldnt we set those emotions free in the reviews and have living discussion about the various releases and reviews. It would be so sterile and boring when you only have serious reviews. 381214[/snapback] so one simple question mate. you think it's ok that a review drown in tons of comments that got nothing to do with the review? let me sum it up again as I did a few posts back. What about the people that like to read the reviews but have to go through many unrelated comments and spam before they get to the review? Do they not have a saying here? Edited November 14, 2005 by SOLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 yes Rain, let's .. but your idea of making it better may not be similar to my idea of making it better for example. thus i will not vote. those 2 options for voting are not good enough for me. nemo, you kindof suck at polls 381205[/snapback] true my idea maybe different but I posted my idea in this thread and nemo also had that same idea he said... so that's why I voted yés... so one simple question mate. you think it's ok that a review drown in tons of comments that got nothing to do with the review? let me sum it up again as I did a few posts back. What about the people that like to read the reviews but have to go through many unrelated comments and spam before they get to the review? Do they not have a saying here? 381216[/snapback] maybe we should have an option that when someone writes a second review about the same ablum it goes directly under the first review... so all the reviews first appear and then the comments.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Just a little reminder: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?sh...ndpost&p=335683 I wonder what made you change your mind about the spam and "chit chat" going on in the reviews? As I see it, you also wanted a change.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaySatanicHippie Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 so one simple question mate. you think it's ok that a review drown in tons of comments that got nothing to do with the review? let me sum it up again as I did a few posts back. What about the people that like to read the reviews but have to go through comment after comment of unrelated essense before they get to the review? Do they not have a saying here? 381216[/snapback] to make it short: Yes I do!! Because most of the stupid comments are in one way or another related to the music or the emotions caused by the comments. Just take Mars Eskimo thread as an example. That random assortment of Busllshit tells you all you need to know about that album, more than any detailed review ever could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SOLO Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 to make it short: Yes I do!! Because most of the stupid comments are in one way or another related to the music or the emotions caused by the comments. Just take Mars Eskimo thread as an example. That random assortment of Busllshit tells you all you need to know about that album, more than any detailed review ever could. 381221[/snapback] Then we disagree and thats fine I personally do not think Mars review and the many comments said much about anything. That I don't like Eskimo's music got nothing with the fact that it was overcrowded with comments that in my opinion would be very out of place in a real review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 blah blah blah. just keep it as is. oh, and ban rain as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaySatanicHippie Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Then we disagree and thats fine I personally do not think Mars review and the many comments said much about anything. That I don't like Eskimo's music got nothing with the fact that it was overcrowded with comments that in my opinion would be very out of place in a real review. 381222[/snapback] well, sometimes public outrage says a whole lot more about an album than any well-conceived mild-mannered review ever could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SOLO Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 well, sometimes public outrage says a whole lot more about an album than any well-conceived mild-mannered review ever could 381232[/snapback] As I said. We disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krelmatrix Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 let me sum it up again as I did a few posts back. What about the people that like to read the reviews but have to go through many unrelated comments and spam before they get to the review? Do they not have a saying here? 381216[/snapback] Wow, people have to spend a few seconds to ignore non-review comments to actually get to the comments on the album? The poor babies! Are peoeple really that lazy? And anyways, aside from perhaps the Eskimo review thread (which I still don't understand why it was even posted in the reviews section), I really don't see many review topics being "drowned" in unrelated comments to the point that it's difficult to find comments on the release. People are making a big deal out of a non-problem. Cripes - this isn't isratrance, for god's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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