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*** RESULTS OF LISTENING *** Dec. 09, 2014 *** Report generated for: radi6404 Tracks for comparison: 1. Hallucinogen - LSD (Twisted; 1995) 2. Phreaky - Over The Moon (Goa-Head Vol.2; 1997) Headphones used: 1. Sennheiser HD600 2. Sennheiser HD650 Methodology: - Ear wax was cleaned before listening. Suggestion that opponents follow same procedure. ** RESULTS ** Phreaky similarities with LSD: - Both have a 4/4 beat. - Both in style "Goa Trance". - Both contain syntheses from the Roland TB-303. - Both have approx 140 BPM. Phreaky differences with LSD: - LSD contains voice samples. Phreaky does not. - LSD is about drugs. Phreaky is about big things floating through space. - Tracks are in a different key. - Phreaky is much darker, more repetitive, harsh, and less melodic. - LSD is more soft, trippy, and has a more polished production. - LSD has a very unique, continually changing, very bright and special melody. Missing in Phreaky. - LSD sounds unique. Phreaky sounds like average, mediocre Goa Trance. Conclusion: The tracks are NOT notably similar. Final rating: Hallucinogen - LSD = 9/10 Phreaky - Over The Moon = 5/10 The following users are WRONG to claim that these tracks are similar: - radio6404 - Anyone else who agrees with him. *** CASE CLOSED ***

radi6404, That equipment is outdated. I'll be listening to these tracks on HD600 and HD650 later today (through a neutral DAC and headphone amplifier) and I'll post a summary of my findings.

radio6404, I am active now. I will reply to your threads, just give me a few hours.

That's why I said to clear your ears of wax. I also want to know what headphones or speakers you use which make Phreaky sound similar to LSD. I'm sure we can figure out where your problem is if you provide more information.

Down to earth as opposed to where... head in the clouds? Coming from the 10th dimension? Sitting in room 303 of the mental hospital? People are free to imagine themselves as exploring other dimensions, but I can see no rational reason to believe that this isn't a pure fantasy on their part. Similarly, people are free to go to church and imagine themselves talking to God or they can pray in front of a temple and stick needles through their tongues to combat their "ego". The amount of delusions that have evolved in humanity is great -- and that's a beautiful thing, and life wouldn't be as rich or maybe even possible without them -- but you're just one more person representing one more delusion as though it's some kind of ultimate truth. I find that narrow-minded. I consider it more honest and intelligent in these modern times to admit that we don't know the truth or if there is one, and to be skeptical of everything, and to at least stay in disbelief for as long as possible. This is what separates the rare individuals from the mainstream: the mainstream (which includes you) are happy to believe the first delusions that they stumble across. Here is my personal bias, and you can see from the previous quote how it compares with yours. This is highly dependent on culture, upbringing, etc. For example, try representing "the idea of space" through music (or any other medium) to people who do not have such a concept or idea in their vocabulary or minds. It will be impossible. Goa/psy music might make western audiences think of space for a few reasons: 1. Track titles, album art, and sci-fi samples in the music are about space. This is the most obvious and common way. It uses language, which relies on the fact that we all have a common dictionary and vocabulary, to directly set the theme. 2. Playing on our personal/cultural conditioning. This applies especially to established listeners of goa/psy music. Since we've learned to associate certain sounds with space concepts, those sounds are included in the music to remind us. Another example is using sounds that are typical or reminiscent of sci-fi movies. 3. Because we currently mystify space (in lieu of gods, which where more mystified in previous eras). This means that we'd have a tendency to frame new and unknown experiences and sounds in that way. Ultimately, "the idea of space" (beyond the empirical boundaries of our personal experiences on planet Earth) is just a delusion or a fantasy that we have. I don't think any goa/psy people are astronauts or would really care about that kind of space -- silent and lifeless. At best, our ideas of space are thought experiments (ie. as much of sci-fi) in which we try to imagine a world much different than our own, yet still comprehensible to us -- seemingly unlikely, but nonetheless fun, entertaining, and challenging to do. I agree that music is a recording of (and a reproduction of) a vibration through space. But it's non-sense to say that one genre can be more "accurate" than another. The accuracy of the recording depends only on the equipment used to record the original sound. If you mean the accuracy of describing space, then goa/psy is really far from it, because, as another user mentioned, there is no sound in space, and goa/psy has a lot of sound in it. If you mean the accuracy of evoking sci-fi images, then I agree that goa/psy music is effective, but I think ambient music is much more effective (albeit less interesting to many people who just wanna do drugs and dance). Most other genres don't care to try. These aren't musical and they're not about "scales". They're based in our language and conveyed via science fiction writing. Music only comes by and loosely attaches itself to the concepts later on, once they're well established. Here's an interesting experiment: If you take away the artist names, album titles, artwork, track titles, and sci-fi samples and listen to the music, can you even tell whether it was originally conceived to be about space or not? I doubt it. It often amazes me when I listen to music which makes me dream about something and then I check the track title and it was about something entirely different. Try it. Maybe if your head is so far in the clouds every song will be about "space" to you, even if it was originally created to represent the operation of a sewing machine on boring planet Earth. You must believe that humanity is destined to become more intelligent, then, rather than destined to become stupider (which seems like the current trend) (assuming that intelligence is required to appreciate more complex, dense, and layered music). You must also believe fundamentally in some sort of universal morality (otherwise you wouldn't care about the "mainstream", or rather, you'd even be repulsed by it). In my view, this makes you not very intelligent, as I think the evidence suggests that those two points are practically mutually exclusive. By the way, artists and producers of music shouldn't be idolized so heavily. They really aren't that special. There are many good artists across the genres and in all areas of life beyond music. There are also many mediocre and bad artists, even in goa/psy music, which has its fair share of crap around. Final words: what you've typed in this thread so far is a whole lot of meaningless jibberish. You should really go to church some day to see what Christians think about worship music. You sound the same way as them, just about goa/psy music instead. Maybe that would help you snap out of it and back into reality.... Blah blah space, blah blah dimensions, blah blah I'm a deep, spiritual person so my sentences don't have to be comprehensible. Do some more drugs, bro!

I think you need to clear some wax from your ears, radi6404, if you think Phreaky sounds similar to LSD. Maybe you just haven't heard enough Goa Trance yet to hear the difference. Keep exploring... there are many good tracks beyond Hallucinogen and Astral Projection, although those two are the most popular and well known.

It doesn't, unless you call sampling lines from cheesy sci-fi movies "exploring the notion of space".

Those tracks sound nothing like LSD to me. On the contrary, there are many artists that created a "powerful, bright, springlike and energy sound". That describes half of the music called Goa Trance. Are they identical to LSD? Obviously not. They all have their own style. No track would be special if it wasn't unique. Some examples: Asia 2001 - Flirt Filter Cosmosis - Sanyacid Jaia - Rebirth Imperial Project - Energy Gate Transwave - Hypersphere

Wow Veracohr... I hadn't thought of that. You're right, if someone pushed a speaker on me I wouldn't like it. Therefore, I shouldn't like it if someone pushes a speaker on anyone else. Perfect logic. If someone stabbed me, I wouldn't like that either. If I got injured by in a storm, I wouldn't like that either. I propose that we ban speakers, knives, and storms. Life would be so much more easy, comfortable, and boring without any of these horrible, cruel, unfair dangers that threaten to hurt our feelings at every turn.

How about important things like cooking and giving head? Careful, some girls who can dance and play piano have too high an opinion of themselves and will try to boss you around.

Exit Eternity is the best track on the CD by far.

You want someone to babysit you and tell you what to do? If you're interested in psy music why not just explore yourself and form your own opinions?

He pushed a speaker at a girl... so what? who cares? I can't believe this trivial story has so much publicity, and it's all because people are being giant pussies about it ("OMG... that's a total no go", "OMG he lost all respect", "OMG he's such a bad person", etc). Bunch of cry-babies with no sense of humor.

radi6404 - Personal question. Have you masturbated to this girl? I think she's very pretty. Would you mind if we used her picture?

"Unbelievable Technology" doesn't seem any more complex or layered than the others. The reason I don't like it is that it lacks a signature or unique sound... it doesn't stand out, it's boring, it's just a bunch of sounds that don't really convey any emotions or anything interesting. Among thousands of downtempo tracks, I have no reason to listen to "Unbelievable Technology" when there are so many better ones.

"Unbelievable Technology" is a mediocre/bad track. Nothing really special or stands out about it. And it's certainly not ambient music at all, just downtempo. Their best downtempo tracks IMO are "Ambient Galaxy (Disco Valley Mix)", "Still Dreaming (Anything Can Happen)", "Ambience", and "Electronic".

She reminds me of my sister. I think if you draw some PSY art for her, she will fall in love quickly. You can draw PSY art, radi6404? Once you can invite her to listen to Goa Trance, you get her to dance. There's the perfect opportunity to touch her. Good luck :-)

Over-rated CD. The best tracks are the ones that are already released. The unreleased tracks are all inferior. :-(

The Graduate (1967) ... 7/10 Sonatine (1993) ... 5/10 An Unmarried Woman (1978) ... 3/10 Festen (The Celebration) (1998) ... 6/10

Lots of brown-nosing in this thread. I thought Goa masters would be AP, Etnica, D5, etc....

In the past week: Jonas qui aura 25 ans en l'an 2000 (Jonah Who Will Be 25 in the Year 2000) (1976) ... 6/10 Tôkyô monogatari (Tokyo Story) (1953) ... 8/10 Ovoce stromu rajských jíme (Fruit of Paradise) (1970) ... 4/10 Singapore Sling (1990) ... 6/10 A Taste of Honey (1961) ... 4/10 Die Marquise Von O (The Marquis of O) (1976) ... 6/10

I'm sure the movie is garbage by anything but American middle class standards, like everything else Christopher Nolan has made. Steady down hill since Following.

I usually listen on hi-fi headphones or reference speakers. Those big sound systems are usually very bass heavy or distort the music so much that it doesn't even sound the same....

I think it's because all the other groups are atheists. MGF is the only group that is really inspired by God and hence they have the most beautiful inspiration.

If someone else is funding it, then why not get the mercedes?