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We all start as being spectators at a dance party. Most of the time we are introduce by someone we trust in and try the experience. Only insane people will come over and over if they don't like it. Now i want to come back on your point that music provides a trip. Do you consider yourself down to hearth while you are tripping? Do people need to be taught how to trip to be able to trip? Inviting people to trip about other dimension isn't it a way to prove that christian's worship music is nothing more than a trip? Thank you for you time and for sharing your knowledge.

While humans will develop this notion by hearing noises for the first time, learn to walk or observe the stars it the sky, you ignore simply the cognitive approach to narrow it to a rational definition. Like a robot. You are aggressive against people with different believes. You try to isolate me, to humiliate me. You misread my words in order to achieve your goals. You are exceptionally intelligent and i bet you have a huge ego. It sounds like an antisocial person, from here to sociopath there is only a small step: It is said sociopath will not feel any remorse about hurting others.

People are good so ultimately they will design trip that make them feel good or amazed them. At least it's only this kind of trip that will become popular: uplifting, mixing cultures... I do not know anyone interested in craziness or self destruction except you. I associate this with isolation and troubles. That's why people do the complete opposite, they gather and dance together for exemple. You could have share your music, you could have join the exchange, but no you prefer killing the vibe by attacking me on ridiculous definition. Here is all your perspective/personality being expressed. You are like this sociopath who stay beside the dance-floor to hate people dancing... at a dance party!

I feel like a black guy trying to sit in front of the bus. thank you for your clear analyse of the idea of space in the western world, the rest is just venin and out of this topic.

@zoomorph So you are the guardian of the right values who tell others what they have to believe. I believe humans are intelligent. They work and evolve together. Intelligence is the capacity of understanding phenomenons first seen in nature and to reproduce them afterwards into different closed systems. There isn't such a thing as more intelligent than intelligent. Mathematics, language, emotions, technologies are all equivalent mediums to express the current comprehension of nature. All together they form reality and so a shared system of values to communicate correctly. It becomes also the matter to compose and figure out new possibilities we can't initially capture with our 5 senses. Sometimes it doesn't apply so we change the values in depth... Ultimately is it the process of making a way into life. It's application is to imagine, have visions, and create with knowledge. With fantastic thinking, human gave birth to concept such as mobil phones, then they express it trough the medium of "science fiction movies", later with the medium "technology". From fire to wifi, we can only be fascinated by this incredible journey into discoveries and disillusions, this journey into science ! And here is your only one brilliant thought by admitting that there isn't such a thing we can call truth. Indeed you perceive that all this systems are constantly evolving. Everything is vacuity! Isn't it one universal morality? This pattern of perpetual disillusions is symbolised by the ying and the yang, as the vortex of knowledge (light) going over ignorance (darkness) through time and space. The static image of it represents just one paradigms which is under the light of intelligence at a moment and is destined to go back into the darkness of unpracticality the next moment. What a mind blowing perspective! That explains so many thing in just one picture. This is art, It is knowledge but first it was fantasy. Maybe when you are talking new dimension you are referring to the "new age" philosophies establishing the ether as the invisible dimension that humans could integrate and so express telepathy, clarity viewing and all this branch of supernaturalistic minded powers (6th sens) that have only their places in science fiction movies from your static perspective. You feel frustrated to not be able to understand this technics and so reject them but don't worry society will express it trough another medium later like a technology so you will be mind blowed anyway. I think this year scientist have done teleportation of a particule and are using computer interfaces to capture the manifestation of telepathic messages. From my personal experience i have lived and witnessed it so it is now part of my reality. So being skeptical about it it just talking to say nothing. More dangerously, condemning this branch of intelligence is closing the door to a vaste universe of possibilities, discoveries, progress. It is cutting a tree at its tronc so you are never able to collect its fruits. I am sure you got this easy picture that shows how narrow minded you are. Your point is that my place is in a mental hospital because, as religious people or drug addicts, i am just having some fantastic interpretation of reality who finds no echoes in science and by trying to represent one vision that i perceive (the act of creating art) naively as an ultimate truth, i can only be a narrow minded idiot, i don't even know the right terminology therefor i should stop expressing my thoughts and feelings immediately. First of all, as you expected, naturally, i am shitting in your mouth right now. Second, i was introducing the perspective of space from a different point of view than down to earth and many people get the idea of observing this space to describe how music happen in it, in opposition to "just experience" it through our 5 senses. There is nothing religious,occult,psychedelic in this, it is just an application of intelligence. As a dancer, i see space as the canvas where life happens, the framework to create. I enjoy filling it with my presence and play with it, occupy it, It is a pretty interesting perspective. And this introduce the vision of many spiritual people around the world. By choosing the point of view of the creator filling space, we are designing our own lives, creating experiences we WANT to live. This is my philosophy and i believe it is the right answer for a pop culture that is sinking in a destructive consumerism but rational system. Third, i think in images not in words, and actually i am not talking in my language. However i will not give the supremacy of any languages over others. It is deny that they are thousands of dialects out there with a different system of values. This is another narrow minded mentality that can conduct to fascism. To Conclude: You see space as something defined and you consider any recreative artistic creation attempting to represent it's role in reality as a one way to the mental hospital. With this statement you are condemning almost all the creatives thinkers, religious and spiritual people who represent easily half of the world population. Your are limiting your vision to the empirical borders of your own language and you reject other cultures with different values. It's not surprising that you can't find any rational reason (because now reason can be irrational hahahahaha you are such a clown) to use goa music as a new system to connect with space. I could give a thousand but it doesn't worth it. So you can only stay on your chair while creative thinkers open for you the doors of perception, and reveal another disillusion that will give birth to a new system and ultimately a new word. From that you will be able to express yourself. I am sure it's easy for everyone to see the gap between visionary people (who are not that special indeed there are just humans with another purpose that yours) and you. Your are just a pretentious character. Why being such a asshole when you could use the same space to express joy? or love!! Sorry it is obvious that you have no idea of the dimension where love happens.

How deep are you zoomorph? are you talking metaphysic? here we are talking about the art of representing the idea of space using music as a medium. Music is vibration/sonic wave projected into space. And psy/goa music seems to be the most accurate kind of all who describe this system, it is maybe it's vocation! This notion of space has been represented trough infinity of themes from inner universe to galactic kingdoms where producers are able to create more and more sophisticated echoes effect.. it's all about space and scales, awareness of the universe. But the mainstream people will not make the distinction between dimension 5 or Hallucinogen because they have to look in depth while they only consume on their level: down to earth. That's why i see goa music as a ludic way to invite people to explore other dimensions, breaking the pattern of the ego point of view. I consider people on this forum and artist producer of the goa scene in general as visionary people and i believe it is only a question of time before it becomes the new mainstream. We are now building a playlist of different thematics that all focus on the idea of space and you are more than welcome to give your own perspective.

Hi folks, how are you doing today? Let me present myself. I am a young artist performer who creates short dancing acts in the world of modern dance. Modern dance creations put the accent either on an energy, either on a landscape/universe/fantasy world and make art of it. Art is simply the game of representing the invisible forces of Life, it is also the game of making people dream awaken. If trance music vision is still very absent of the pop culture (despite the ever growing community of people gathering in festivals) it is because, let's be honest, this vision of reality is in advance on its time. To me it is the deepest and most detailed, advanced kind of music and it's logical for any music lover to one day dive into this universe. Meanwhile, in a world where everybody is an artist and can share it's own creations(=sensibility) we are more than ever lucky to experience, talking music, a track that is not matching our expectations. I have been listening around 2K tracks of psy/goa/604/whatever and only saved 200 good tracks. The rest was crap but i guess it's a subjective question and we NEED all the sensibilities to be represented sooooo. So yeah, because i am tired of listening crappy noisy experimental incoherently crazy or boring production i refer now to your personal knowledge and experience to build together some playlist to illustrate clearly and accurately a few concept. This is a brainstorming, this is a collective consciousness construction that refer to your own experiences and sensibility and from many personal imaginations, we can create a pop image. I am very happy to start this new topic and i would like to begin with the notion of SPACE. Because the element of landscape is commun to any trance production, please let's try to find pieces where the focus is put on the notion of space. Here comes the few productions that make me feel space : sometimes because an echo gives the idea of huge volume, sometimes another song refers to ufo, sometimes because the energy it close to levitation, there is many possibilities.. So please join the process. Thank you actually i think that the echo is the most relevant effect but energy is also very very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjOfNVMdAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmI-0ZavMew

Guys! I found something that sounds the same, can you please share your tracks with the same mood! Vimana & Farbo - Spanda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y-_6fwbe7Y thanks

Hi Scandinasia, you have isolated the cosmic silence and hypnotising bassline. But it seems that you do not have what i am looking for so now i gonna dive into playlist of rare and unreleased tracks on youtube, i will keep you update if i find what i am looking for, and share anything that may interest you. if i say right you like when it has a melancholic mood overall. Thank you for your help anyway.

Hi scandinavia, first of all thank you again for your help in this quest of my "perfect track" your suggestions are all great, e-mantra and LSD represent perfectly this overwhelming feeling that i love so much Despite the epic side of these tracks, none of them are in the euphoric mood that i am looking for (e-mentra is pure bliss and reminds me "JBC arkadi" tracks that i really enjoy but i need to go higher) So i hope these new elements will help you to figure out what turns me ecstatic: In the intro of this song, the very beginning, the tonality used is what i can't find anywhere. [Official] Sirius - Not From Here So basically a track built around this tonality like, for exemple, this arpeggio much more faster with a strong hypnotising baseline will put me in orbit. The ideal would be like an epic journey in euphoria but this tracks are so rare! Another info that may give you ideas (I don't think so lol) is the fact that i experienced this alchemy during a Byelorussian dj set who was dressed like a puck... The magic was total.

thank you Padmapani this tracks are acid and it makes me think what i am looking for may be a track where this acidity sounds round, like acid bubbles popping in a very open space.

thank you! this is the kind or arpeggio' sonority(starting at 2"15 and 2"40) i am sick of, it tickles the top of my head and puts me in trance. how would you describe it? However it is flooded almost the entire song.I would enjoy a musique where this sonority is leading, dominant, nonstop, with a faster beat. do you have anything like this? thank you John

despite i had enjoyed your compilations, i never heard about the neogoa net label. I want to say, it is gold. Richpa, thank you for your important work.

ok i have isolated an important point. almost all the goa sounds the same when you overfly it in your itunes (just play 2 secondes and switch to the next song). It sounds all the same. what you hear is a kind of rasping rough sonority, cutting lasers and so on. Can you please find me tracks that have a soft sonority, while being intense and immersive. The atmosphere i am looking for is alien gathering/euphoric/zero gravity (i am sure it will make sens when we will figure it out ) thank you for your help

hi Scandinasia, it's difficult to me to be clear, so i gonna use some music to illustrate my thoughts and i will appreciate that you correct my words so i can speak clearly to the community (i am french and new to goa) i like when it's intense and epic like this two bombs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giugf3gSo7M however, i had the chance to experience the same intensity in a completely different atmosphere: more playful, joyful, more light. i think there was no "woin woin", just melodious sonorities that make me think of happy E.T dancing on the moon. thank you for your help in this quest PS: i can't see the videos, what should i do