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Recently watched Bladerunner and Bladerunner 2049 I like 2049 but nothing can beat the original. Maybe it's the Vangelis soundtrack, or maybe it's just the best movie ever. Looking forward to 2099

So much amazing stuff here

Do you have a spreadsheet or something with all the genres, sub genres, sub sub genres, sub sub sub genres etc. on it? Would love to fall down that rabbit hole.

Skazi was hated on these boards. So many people hated the fullon revolution and he dragged psytrance into the arena of cheesy Euro Trance. People here hated him because he ruined Psy I quite liked him because he made Euro trance better Love him or hate him, he brought good energy

Ultimae was one of those labels that I blind bought from for years. I have everything until around Cell - Onwards System in 2022 however a lot of the later releases didn't hit me like their old stuff did. I thought at the time what I still think now, not that Ultimae went downhill, but I went downhill. The last 10 years of my life has been a busy old time in this head of mine. Family, work, health, etc. have all blocked me from my natural state of being - relaxed, focused, chilled. Pre-marriage and kids, it was easy to just sit down, put on a CD and sink into it. I could listen to the ambientest of ambient and still appreciate all the nuance. It was, a good time. I'm recently in possession of the occasional span of time where I am being left alone. For this, I bought myself some new headphones, HE100SE, which are renowned for exceptional detail retrieval, and above all for my my purposes, a massive soundstage. I also bought a CD with an amp that'd enough to drive them properly (although they are easy to drive as I didn't want to spend so much money on headphones only to have to spend twice as much again with a monster amp to make them actually work) Anyway, my new set up has given me a new appreciation for music. - the headphones to really sink into the music effortlessly - the CD player to make me choose and album and commit to it So, I feel now is the time to rediscover Ultimae, what albums over the last 10 years (even better if it's pre-2022 as I probably still own it) is the best. What should I play next? Sub question - how are you currently feeling about music? How do you play it? Streaming, digital downloads, CDs still? Vinyl? Cassettes?

Listening to the Techno side of this. Didn't like this (either side) when I first got it but 9 years later I have a new appreciation for it. Imagine Ultimae atmospheres with dub techno rhythms

I love how Flying Rhino evolved their sound. I love the old stuff, the stuff from this era and even the stuff right towards the end. It was all different but all fantastic. This album is a great showpiece. Like the flight series, all the Re:evolutions get a lot of plays at Casa De abasio

Happy he's alive, although I never really assumed otherwise, just guessed that he was done with the music scene. Anyway, this album is dreamy spacey goodness and deserves more listens than I actually give it.

This still holds up as a quality release. Shame it didn't get much love here. I still love listening to Gus' up tempo stuff even more than his chilled stuff.

And again and again and again 23 years and counting

Lush

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Listening to this through my new headphones. The Hifiman HE100SE open back planar headphones have amazing detail retrieval and a massive soundstage so this album sounds so ALive :wow:

Forgot this even existed, but it's really nice a natural sounding album

So Dragonfly was the sub label of a sub label of a sub label? 😯

Yeah, Butterfly records had some great releases, Baba G - Dig a Jig, The Infinity Project - Time and Space, System 7 - 7:7 Expansion and a few more. But Butterfly records was a sub label of Big Life, who Youth was working for as a producer. At the top was BMG, big label.

Story goes that Jaz beat up Dave Grohl and forced him to play drums on one album, like 2003 or 2004. The self titled one from that era. But as always, never check the facts of a good story, lol.

Great early AP track

I forgot that Dragonfly was a sub label for Butterfly Records, in my mind it is one of the greatest record labels ever so must have been its own entity.

How about if you narrowed it down even further?

Well well kiddies, hard at work sample is from the English dub of this film apparently https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/

DIdn't Dave Grohl play drums for Killing Joke on their self-titled album? I guess they got over it

Killing Joke as in Youth and friends: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbhyyV8s1QV/ If you've been to a recent Infected Mushroom show, they play a Come As You Are cover. It's a bit cheesy on headphones, but kind of good in a live setting.

Since you're asking specifically for old school goa trance and labels with the biggest influence, you can narrow the list to the following: Blue Room Released Concept In Dance Distance Dragonfly Records Flying Rhino Records Matsuri Productions Phonokol Spirit Zone Recordings Symbiosis Records Transient Records Trust In Trance Records TIP Records Why Not Records If you want to narrow it down even further the following would be enough: Blue Room Released Dragonfly Records Flying Rhino Records Matsuri Productions Phonokol Trust In Trance Records TIP Records Many of the labels you mentioned released psytrance (like Koyote, Psyharmonics, Twisted) or goa trance records of relative minor importance (like Nephilim and Phantasm).

Butterfly studios was really special, Youth did a great thing with it. Many of the soon to be big acts was in that studio. Project II Trance released in 93 was probably the first Goa compilation. So if I have to pick, it's Dragonfly, but you listed many great ones. :))