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K-BAN    30

I think you should go into the next place you apply for, stomp your foot, point at them and demand the job. "Im overly qualified you sonuvabitch!"

maybe not say the last part ;p But do somehow show you want the job, not need the job. theres a difference. Wanting it you will work to keep it. Needing sounds deperate to them and you would take something better that passes you by.

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radi6404    30

Thanks for the tip man, I always said I need the apprenticeship. with jobs only applications sent and no invitations, or I asked there and they did not have jobsat the time I asked. I could be a great author of a newspaper, since I have good command of language and a creative fantasy (at leat I think that) but I don't even know how that is called.

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CoLoUr DoTZ    4

Germany is a rasist country and against anyone who has some problems.

I'm also a foreigner in Germany and my experience is quite the opposite. Every job I go there are Germans and foreigners working together, there are companies where the working language is english, and this is a country with a high range of mixed couples (German - name the country)

I'm not saying that in your area can't be as you say, only that to my eyes this is not really the case.

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radi6404    30

Not so much foreigner hate, that is in certain areas, probably more south of Stutgart, but a lot to people who have an eye problem, when they see me with my eyes a bit different one to the other they look at me like I am an alien and people will ignore me and say nasty things, that I am on drugs and so on.

 

They don't like disabled people in any way and they will not take anyone who does not ahve great school marks, altough some people wake up after finishing school, the only thing that matters in Germany are your school grades when you are young.

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JISNEGRO    107

Radi, can you go back to school and improve your marks? Taking some CS courses and having good grades will help your CV and can make it easy for you to get a decent job. Complaining does not take you anywhere. You have to be persistent and keep trying

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d.leerium    3

Not so much foreigner hate, that is in certain areas, probably more south of Stutgart, but a lot to people who have an eye problem, when they see me with my eyes a bit different one to the other they look at me like I am an alien and people will ignore me and say nasty things, that I am on drugs and so on. They don't like disabled people in any way and they will not take anyone who does not ahve great school marks, altough some people wake up after finishing school, the only thing that matters in Germany are your school grades when you are young.

Yet, as soon as you're out of school and have completed some higher form of education, be it an academic degree or an apprenticeship, nobody will ever give a flying damn about school grades anymore. They're really only important on your last certificate (be it Abitur or any other educational qualification) to enable you to enroll at a university, for example.

 

As for the problems you're describing, of course there's always discrimination of people who are 'different' in some way and don't perfectly fit in upon first glance, but I don't believe this is a specifically German phenomenon. Such people are likely to run into problems anywhere in the world, though the degree and form of discrimination can vary considerably. I've heard, for instance, that people in the UK are much more open-minded towards people who may seem 'weird' - rather than shunning them, they tend to show interest and view it as a special trait, not a flaw. But this may be a stereotype, I can't say I've had first-hand experience with it. Scandinavia is relatively open-minded, too, and they've got many good programs for integrating disabled people.

 

I can give you one piece of advice from my heart: be frank about it, but not in an aggressive way. Strange reactions - be it at a job interview or in private conversations - often derive from the fact that people simply can't put their finger on what's different, or they don't understand it. Of course it's annoying if people assume you've taken drugs just because your eyes may look unusual. I'd suggest to just say something like "You're probably wondering about my eyes - it's a minor innate deficiency/variation/[fill in accordingly, I don't know enough about it], but it's no big deal", in a calm tone as if it's the most normal thing in the world to explain this. And come to think of it, it is! This way, you prevent misunderstandings and spare the other person the trouble of pretending not to notice, as well as sparing yourself the frustration of being confronted with prejudices. I know what I'm talking about from personal experience, and my 'condition' is far more complicated to explain, but so far reactions have been widely positive if I broached the subject openly. Be self-confident about it, knowing that it's nothing to be ashamed of, but merely a minor part of you that doesn't define you in any way, and that doesn't diminish your skills and qualifications.

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radi6404    30

 

Radi, can you go back to school and improve your marks? Taking some CS courses and having good grades will help your CV and can make it easy for you to get a decent job. Complaining does not take you anywhere. You have to be persistent and keep trying

 

 

I can but I wont, I now what I am able to and I wil not go and get a higher school education, since math and physics are very difficult for me and I will not force me to do that only to get a job since I know what I can, 4 languages, great communication skills, great computer skills. So I will not go back to school

 

d.leerium

I Germany if you have any disability they want to put you in a special closed facility, eonly existing a few in whole Germany, they wanted to put me to Stutgart but I tried and saw I don#t want to go there, because I want to move to the south, not to the north. I talked with Imba and he said in Serbia the state pays you if you go to work but in Germany there is ntohing like that, the company chooses if you get the job or not and you have no rights.

 

But we can talk about this in another topic, let's not spam this one too much.

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CoLoUr DoTZ    4

It sounds like you are describing the western capitalist society..... I don't know wich your situation is, but don't give up and you'll find your place.

Don't you still have the chance to do an abitur, some praktikum maybe??

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radi6404    30

I can't do Abitur, my skills in physics and maths are just not good enough unfortunately, so it is too difficult to me. I have applied for many Praktika but they did not give me any.

 

The problem is that there is no support from the state at all, you have to do all yourself and the state can support you after, but they wont help you at all aktually getting the job. Also I want to move far in the south, I don#t like Nürtingen and the people here, south of Stuttgart. i want live in Munich, Lindau or somewhere in Rosenheim with the beautiful Alps, but it is even harder to get an appenticeship far away, because they prefer to take their own people.

 

I think I will return to Bulgaria very soon, a few more applications, if they don't give me anything, let's return, since I don't want to be stuck here for my whole life.

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d.leerium    3

Mate, things aren't that bad in Germany, really. I'm German myself, and there are quite a number of possibilities for disabled people, you can get support in all kinds of ways, you only have to find out about them. This is, of course, the first step which takes some research, but you're definitely not left alone with your problems. I must say I hate to seem protective of the German state system since I'm no fan of it myself, but I know from experience that disabled people do have extensive rights in this country and can make use of them if they know how and where. For instance, if you have an officially diagnosed disability (if you don't, see that you get a proper diagnosis from a specialist), you can get a so-called Schwerbehindertenausweis (disabled person's pass) which, in turn, enables you to get a job that is specifically reserved for disabled people. There is a law here which asks employers to employ a certain quota of disabled people. You then also have improved employment protection. It's always the first priority to integrate disabled people into the regular employment market, and not - as you say - to put them all away into closed facilities. The latter would be way too expensive for the state! But you're right: it's getting a little bit off-topic. If you need any information or help regarding these issues, feel free to drop me a line (or start a dedicated thread). I know enough about it, although regulations may differ slightly from state to state.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention that you don't need that much maths and physics to get your Abitur. I didn't do any physis or chemistry throughout my last three school years, and I only took the obligatory basic course in maths. Try to get through it with "ausreichend" and focus on the subjects you're good at, you can easily outweigh a mediocre maths mark with them.

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radi6404    30

If I don't get a job or apprenticeship in one month I am returning to bulgaria, since I am not stayin ghere in that region which I hate so much and which I wanted to escape for more than fucking two years.

 

You are right, those rights exsit, but you fully forget that companies pay a fee and don't have to employ anyone and the stronger employment rights just hinder companies employing disabled people. I even got told that from my job center coach or how it is called in English. So I will not stay here for sure, can't see this pöace anymore, only people who speak bad German with porpuse, narrow streets, lots of noise everywhere, insulting towards me and so on, I can't stand it.

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darkill    1

In oder from best to worst :

 

1. French (Native language)

2. English

3. German (Or Deutsch wie sagt mann in Deutsch)

 

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reger    12

...good communication skills...

I LOL'd :lol:

 

Thanks for the tip man, I always said I need the apprenticeship. with jobs only applications sent and no invitations, or I asked there and they did not have jobsat the time I asked. I could be a great author of a newspaper, since I have good command of language and a creative fantasy (at leat I think that) but I don't even know how that is called.

Hehe, trolling at its best :D!

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English, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese, all fluently. We speak Brazilian Portuguese at home (my beautiful wife's Brazilian). I know some German (11 years of German at school).

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