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Ticon, Son Kite, Digital Structures you know stuff like that. I remember that in 2000-2001 listening to a melody was actually a rare thing. Then Full On came and became the new trend.

Actually minimalism killed* the scene before fluffy full on. Full On became mainstream around 2000-2001. 1-2 years before that minimalism (lack of melodies,more techno elements, progressive sound etc) was the main reason that psy-goa lost its original quality. *psytrance never died but IMO 2000-2003 was by far the worst period of psytrance.

The only one I can think is Theoreme-Alive.

Tbh maxfaxtor1995 I can't understand how mixing out of sync can destroy a music genre.

Even more aggressive than Disrespekt? For dark, aggressive, twisted South African psy you can also check Extreme Noise Terror Vol.1 & 2. Especially this track http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU2BSG-UkIM

+1000

Audiopathik both albums. Although they are not that dark, more like hypertwisted psy. Also Cosmo-Akustikal Pollution for the same thing. For both darkness and aggression check out Silent Enemy-Diabolic.

And of course Kashyyyk

Why?

New Filteria, Twisted System, Shift, Phyx, Artifakt, Poison etc. etc.

The whole idea of the topic is why artist evolved their sound to the same kind of genre. It has nothing to do with what you're saying. I refuse to believe that 90% of old school artists decide to produce the same full on music because they seek to evolve artistically and creative seeking new grounds because they simply cant stop being curious musically.

+1 Ι don't use drugs, so pretty much every psy track that I love has this effect on me.

IMO it's not bad at all. But it has some weak tracks.

I still don't believe anything you said. Show me footage from the nommos studio while they're producing and then I might believe you.

That's not a proof. He was involved in Kode IV before Goa Trance. And The Nommos did made some goa tracks. After all many djs 'suddenly' turn into producers and they are vey good.

Got any proof?

No I don't think it's bullshit, I agree with your opinion.

It is, but it's obvious that healium doesn't ask ''Why psy artists evolve their sound?'' or ''Why psy artists don't just produce the same music again and again?''. He asks why psy artist evolve their sound in more mainstream categories? I see people argue over why artists evolve their sound. That's not the case. The case is why the majority evolve their sound to the same genre.

It's funny that people are fighting for three pages for the wrong reason. The topic is why psy artists become less "psy" over time, not why psy artists evolve their sound. A psy artist can choose from dozens of genres (both electronic and not), but it seems that most of them decide to ride the mainstream wagon. Check out IM. A famous psy band that tried something different with the second cd of Converting Vegetarians, but from there they went completelly mainstream with adding vocals and having rockstar perfomances. I also don't get how psytrance can limit an artist if he decides to evolve. You can be as morning or dark, groovy or aggressive, spacey or rough in psytrance. Yet most of the old school legends turn to full on or prog.

Ahhh....darkpsy fans again...

Beside money, fame, lack of inspiration, evolution of sound etc. the biggest reason I think it's age. This is something that I have witnessed happening in the audience too. When you're young you have all this energy inside you, you want to hear something powerful, crazy, fast. When you're getting old you want to settle with something more mellow.* I'm sure everyone knows people that used to listen to psy, but now they feel too 'old' for that. That's the case with the artists too. When they first produced the just want to make something intense and crazy, but after some years they want to calm a bit. That's the only reason I can think for example that none of the old school artists evolved his sound in something more fast or crazy, but almost all of them they went to the full on/prog side which is a mellow one indeed. Of course there are more money there, but I doubt that all artists think that way. *BTW that's not the case with me. Personally the older I get the more psychedelic sound I want.

This is the proof that Jim Carrey's samples can make every track sounds better.

Here is how to take a classic song and remade into a psytrance killer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcsEkhywEzc Shift delivers!

I don't problem with remixes. I have problem with bad remixes. And that Riktam & Bansi remix is awful.