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There will be one in Vancouver this weekend on Saturday, June 28, put on by Deliria. Check the following site and look under events. http://deliria.org/ There is also the Organix nite @ "Club 23 West" in Downtown Vancouver every Friday from 9pm to 4am.

I've listened to the samples and will get it for sure. Shame about the cover, but the music is good.

Thanks

How can I find out more about the one in BC?

Alot of Talamasca tracks are paced very fast, that is, they seem to have high bpm to me. His tracks are also generally melodic. Take a look at the album Musica Divinorum.

Move beyond downloading for the full experience. Explore on your own (reviews, samples, forums, compilations). Find out what you like and buy CD's from artists you like. I think Krize's suggestions would be a good start for you given what you say you like.

Ever since TRIP died, this has been my most visited website. For provding this great site as long as you have, I must also say thanks. I truely hope you can find a way to keep it going. Like Lemmiwinks said, you could strip it down to the reviews and the forum and the best two parts of the site would survive.

I had not taken that into account. I did the math in a currency converter and you are right. I must trade Canadian $ for US $ and the Canadian dollar is also stronger relative the to US, although I don't think it made quite the jump the Euro did.

It seems like cd prices are creeping up. Take Saikosounds for instance. They used to sell everything for about $12 US now most stuff is $13 and it's not uncommon to see cd's for 14 or 15 dollars. I don't want to start a big piracy debate, but this really pisses me off. These CD's are not cheap as it is, and now either the stores or the labels (or both?) are pushing up the prices. This may be to make up for lost revenue, but I wonder if they are going to further hurt sales? If this trend continues much farther, I for one will be buying a whole lot less CD's.

Yes, well that's true. The main criticism of minimal is that's "boring" and "monotonous" and so on, also that it lacks melody, emotion, power, etc. For my money though, I really like music that combines some power, with melody, hypnotic, AND groovy. I want to have my cake and eat it too! I think the latest Human Blue album and Vibrasphere do this in some places and I love those albums for that reason.

I was thinking the same thing: Human Blue is not minimal in any way. And Setsuko: not every person who prefers oldschool-goa/full-on/melodic-progressive etc. is a fluoro wearing grungie hippie wanna be whose all about the fake PLUR In my case Lemmiwinks is right. I prefer oldschool sound and full on stuff (as well as things like Human Blue and the new Vibrasphere) becasue I started really passionately listening to *goa*trance then developed a taste for its various offshoots. That's not to say I don't have any minimal albums or don't like them. Who knows? If I had started listening to trance during the minimal craze, maybe that would be my favorite, but I doubt it. And one final note: Setsuko said "but the style is just not accessible for every psy freak" I find that comment a bit insulting and/or snobbish. Perhaps you didn't mean it that way, but I can't help but get a bit of that vibe in some of your above comments. But anyway, I think you will find that many trance nuts can access the minimal trance sound and follow its groove and subtle changes in a few carefully placed sounds, THE KEY IS that they don't like that sound or style because of how it makes them feel or, more accurately, how it doesn't make them feel. Different strokes for different folks.

Can't we all just be friends!?! LOL! Can't we all just admit there are some good albums made in all styles? Although I must admit; I'm happy to see the overwhelming minimal craze finally dying down to a more reasonable level. Remember back when every single release was just CD after CD of empty emotionless hissess ticks and monotonous beats with no trippy sounds? *yack* Mind you, it could be said that now most releases are all full-on clones. It goes in cycles! What can be next I wonder?

Earth Moving Sun has a couple of good tracks, a few average ones, and a few god awful cheesy tunes.

Well, you know, he had 'Moment of Truth' which was great for its time and a classic. Then he went to the dark side (Perfecto) and made one shitty album. After that, they made a "best of" over at Dragonfly, which was cool but not a real test of what might come. Now there is this... ! His first real album away from that Paul Oakenfucker. Who knows? Anything might happen. It might be a wicked oldschool but updated type album, or it might just suck. Let's hope for the former and not the latter.

Beans, beans, good for your heart...

I third that suggestion for New Kind of World. Their best album in my opinion. Parts of the Prophecy sound a bit too old and nintendo like, but there are still a few great tracks on it... like Overload for instance!

Okay, okay, I just listened to the samples on Saikosounds... and it sounds promising!

This is either going to be very wicked or very dissappointing.

You should consider buying some too...

True.

Astral Projection, OF COURSE!

Yes that is a good suggestion. Listen to various compilations from different labels and you will get an idea for which artists you like. Then you can check out their albums. And you will also learn which labels you like. And also like Spacemonkey said, read a lot of reviews. The newer reviewed albums on this site don't always have many reviews posted but the old ones do and the old stuff is good too! Here is a compliation to start with: The Mystery of the 13 Crystal Skulls

Well if you like Art of Trance, check out anything on Platipus records, like their compilations, and maybe albums by Union Jack, Terra Ferma, and Quietman. Here's a couple of examples: (not really fully psytrance I would say, but nice mellow trance none the less) http://goatrance.free.fr/reviews/therewil.htm http://goatrance.free.fr/reviews/bestofpl.htm ---------------------------------------- If you like Astral Projection - Mahadeva, then you'd probably like their album Trust in Trance and really anything else by them. (AP pretty much has the goatrance thing nailed) Also check out Dancing Galaxy which is a very good album by them, and their two latest albums are also pretty good (Another World and Amen), although not quite as good as their earlier stuff in my opinion. Jaia is awesome, so I reccomend anything by them, especially their album Blue Synergy (which you can still get at Saikosounds.com and maybe elsewhere too). More artists to check out if you like AP and Jaia: Cosmosis (first two albums especially) MFG (again the the first two albums especially) Green House Effect Transwave Electric Universe Man With No Name Etnica (older stuff) X-Dream (older stuff like: We Created Our Own Happiness) Yahel (maybe! too cheesy for some) There's more, but that's a start. ---------------------------------------- As for GMS and Talamasca, check out: Alien Project Absolum Astrix Silicon Sound Anything on the 3D Vision label (and also TIP World) There's tons of full-on artists and compilations out there... ---------------------------------------- Sun Project was never my favorite. They cornered the market on the whole guitar psytrance thing early on. I think Macrophage and Zwork have some of their best songs. The Delta - As a Child I Could Walk on the Ceiling, is a good track with guitars. Johann Bley also uses guitars heavily. ---------------------------------------- There is a by no means exhaustive list of some stuff you might like, given what you already like. I hope that helps. If you search back through the topics in the general forum, you will find numerous topics defining and debating the merrits of the various styles. Maybe someone else can help you with a quick recap... Good luck!

"And I want to make a compilation of the best from all artists listed in this site but I don't know where to start once there are so many." You pretty much answered your own question right there. "Psytrance" covers a fairly wide variety styles and sounds these days. A 'best of' would, of course, depend on what you like. If you could narrow it down a bit, I'm sure people could help you out with some reccomendations. What artists do you like already? What kind of sounds/styles do you prefer?