Krell

Will it get the sticker ? Has it been certified ? :-) - Krell

YaY, me so happy :-) - Krell

You should get to work on a "Approved by Pavel" sticker. As far as Im concerned, if people want to invest a lot of their hard earned cash into music they love, in order to release it onto the market, its their freedom to do so. When we start to dictate what they can, and cannot release, what we end up with in the end is R&B or whatever crap the mainstream wants. Im very happy you choose to mention something you do like however, theres so much "this sucks bla bla" going on, without anyone taking the time to mention what they DO like then. No matter what, I wonder if you will still like the, for you, new stuff as much when you have been listening to it for ages... or if that will also just be shit, which you will then again so profoundly announce :-) For me. 90% of ALL music is shit - Still, in some instances, its not 90% shit all the time - Since when something sounds new and fresh, I have a tendency towards being less picky about music - but - after having listened through a certain amount of it, Im back at 90%, then 95% etc. - Krell

Its all about the experience, flow is a big part of it. I agree. But we can also become blinded by the word "flow" as being just one thing. What we are talking about here, its "track2track flow", how one track flows into another, sound wise, energy wise etc. However, one thing to remember is that flow is not only about how it works from track2track, but through the whole set, and even the party as such. Why Im writing this is, that you can find tracks which are almost totally similar, and have a set build up around them - but what you end up with is one long boring soup of sound, which goes nowhere - no trip, no contrast. Actually, if you can mix dark psy, house, progressive psytrance and full on into one mix, and make it work, you are a true master of flow. Achieving flow is the first step, mastering it is another... You dont master flow just by recognizing and understanding its existence, you need to be able to use it to create a voyage - to do this, you need variation in your track selection - So, we end up with trade off, variation in the track selection vs track2track flow... This is where intelligence comes into trance djing and mixing. So, its not only about flow, its about "interesting flow", even "interesting unpredictable flow". For me, its what seperates an ok dj from a good one. - Krell

Sorry to have to break this to you, but your information is wrong... its 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Next time, check your facts before you post in a forum! - Krell

The same can be done with CDs, just prerecord it on your computer and burn the .wav file as CD audio. Then, plugin cd, press play - Its even easier than bringing a laptop, so if thats what you want to do, CD players or even DAT players are the "bigger evil". So, this is not at all anything new - I agree with you, what matters is the music, and if its not something to your liking, it doesnt really matter what method the dj uses to present it. Crap is Crap, Cream is Cream. With liveacts, you have a clear idea of what the sound will be, probably something along the lines of the last album og ep releases. So, that creates security in regards to anticipation. Perhaps the problem with djs is that many will just settle for the same full on or progressive formula, I dont know. Its the music that matters, and as a DJ its hard to get "your style" or "your taste" promoted out to your audience beforehand - Since most cd releases go to producers (and I think rightfully so). Also, "your style" is really not the music as such, but the way you choose to represent it.. Like, releasing one dj set "this is krells style", its just meaningless, because every dj set will be unique. Liveacts stand, party after party, and play the same tracks over and over. This is exactly what a DJ must avoid. At least, thats what I think. In any case, its in all good djs interest that there is more awareness put on the dj sets and what quality is there. So, hopefully a thread like this will help on that. - Krell

THE HORROR MUST NOT THINK OF IT AGAIN Nitzonot followed up by hardstyle.... OMG ! - Krell

Im affraid Im a bit swamped already, with electrobeat.dk - takes too much of my time (and we are about to upgrade to include articles and other stuff). Still, who knows :-) If something comes up. - Krell

Whatever works works :-) I try out mixes and experiment with combinations in traktor - I dont use the autobpm feature, I do it all myself, sounds better I think and keeps me awake. I can do it with the mouse, but you can also buy a controller, which makes it all a lot faster. If I was using a controller, and I had access to 24bit 96Khz material, coming out through my shit ass expensive sound card (that would put most CDjs to shame), I would use the new combination any day now. For now, its just much easier to play around with the music while lying on the couch relaxing, than being bend over the mixer and my cdjs all the time :-) Take it one step further. Imagin showing up to your gig, you log on to the mixing console (which is sort of a hybrid hardware unit with controllers, screens, knobs and stuff to control software) - Then, you enter your username and password and are logged on to your dj account at your music provider. It loads your person preferences, and you pick your first track, which is streamed over the internet, into the console. All you pay is a licensing fee for playing that track (perhaps its even only the venue that pays, and you just get paid for your selections and what you do on the fly then and there). So - What do you bring to the event ? Just yourself :-) What access to music do you have on site ? TOTAL ! Its all there... ready for you to use :-) No tedious waiting for the CDs to arrive before the gig, wondering if you will be able to get that critical release you want to spin... oh no, when its out, its there... - Krell

I dont think there is any problem, at all, with music presentation, or music creation, tools becoming more accessible. There is no problem with wannabe djs either, I love the fact that people want to become good at something and learn it. Participation is a good thing, and the spreading of the knowledge of djing and production to as many people as possible will only help raise the bar for the respective arts. What I dont like is music production, or djing, being a playground for the rich and fortunate. Therefore, I find the evolution into software to be a grand equalizer, and something that will enrich not only our culture, but the global music culture as a whole. Im sure, for now, there will be no substitute for "real hardware", afterall, notebook, controllers and so forth are just that - hardware. With the introduction of better software, the hardware will allow us to interface with music much more effeciently. Today, the hardware is the jog wheel, the buttons and so forth and the software is what we see in the LCD display.. Time left, Pitch, Track No etc. Very primitive. In the future, the display becomes far more refined, while a lot of the hardware will probably look the same, since it will need to fill the same roles. I dont think anyone will choose using a notebook over a decent controller - cd players, turntables and all that, its going out the window within the next 10-20 years. By then, its going to be all software controlled by new fancy hardware controllers, and its gonna kick ass. Todays djing is going to be absolutely lame in comparison, I have no doubt :-) So, dont just see software as something to practice on - Also, put emphasis on the fact that software needs hardware controllers (untill mind control devices become more effective). So, yeah, hardware is needed - but since most of the functions, effects and computing power will be a part of the software bundle, the hardware prices should reflect that. In the end, its not the hardware that will make the difference - its the person who operates it, and the more options that person has, the more art he will be able to create... so, once more, I think its something we all should support, instead of putting the people who are pioneering these developments down. - Krell

Whattabout a shoutcast stream from the party, to the world ? :-) Actually, I wouldnt mind those scenarios you point out... At the very least, why not try it ? A global party, perhaps with 8 djs, spread out over 8 locations. Then, they take their turns presenting their dj sets which are then broadcasted to the other locations in good quality audio. Global vibes, global party, 8 big projections, one from each location. Sounds like an brilliant idea TO TRY OUT to me. Try something new, thats the real psychedelic spirit. Break the norms, break the limits - to boldly go where noone has gone before (or at least you havent) :-) In case that doesnt work out too groovy though, theres nothing standing in the way of using a notebook for djing and even choosing every track then and there. Its just another interface, thats all. For some reason, which I cannot comprehend but choose to describe as "ignorance", some people are locked into the thought that music presentation software is only capable of streaming one long track from start to finish, while its actually not the case... You can make the switch, cd -> notebook, without having to essentially change the way that you dj at all, you can do it ALL manually if thats more groovy to you and the crowd. But ooohhh no, lets give notebook/software djs, who try something new for a change, a bad name because someone saw somebody stream a long audiofile, instead of actually doing anything interactive at all with the party situation. (something cd djs can also do). If thats your logics, then ban Cds as well, and dat tapes - Only vinyl will do, afterall, those you HAVE to MIX! Because its all about the physical task of mixing the music right?, tasks you could almost teach a monkey if you had enough time and bananas :-P - Krell

Dont confuse "livesets" with "dj sets", Im not talking about livesets, but dj sets. To answer your question, why bother bringing your laptop ? Well, because it can hold a shitload of music, to be found very quickly. No need to bother with bringing CDs at all, not to speak of vinyl, for which you will almost need an extra groupie just to carry them around. I was not talking about the sound quality either, as a matter of fact Im not all that convinced that the current offerings within djing software have that good sound quality (Im mostly thinking about the EQ there). The sound quality issue was NOT brought up by me, still, its valid - notebooks & professional sound cards yield better audioquality than old cds from cd players... But really, I think CD Audio sounds just fine, and its not "that" important to me compared to the other possibilites. So, why would I bother to bring a notebook, instead of a heavy Cd case, or even worse, a vinyl case weighing a ton? Because its easy, and I can bring far more music with me. Also, because the music is so organized in the notebook, I will not have to look through that many CDs to find the right track. However, those are just "simple" things - and besides, who is to say Im ONLY bringing my notebook ? Perhaps I want to bring external controllers (so I can get the same, or even more, feel for the music than the most expensive CD player controls give me). Other than those "simple" things, there are new options for the DJ, when the interface he uses is a piece of software which is in constant evolution, and not an over priced Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3 cd player unit. Visual Djing interfaces, combined with a skilled dj using loops, effects and hundreds of cuepoints thrown out all over thousands of tracks - Now, thats true djing freedom, and its many more times demanding than just manually beatmixing "track 2 track" on a pair of cd decks - Technicly, I can teach anyone do that convincingly in a matter of weeks at the most! - Krell

Why does a DJ need discs ? Isnt it about the music and not the medium ? Anyways, whether you are playing CD Audio from a CD or from a harddrive, it wont matter. Since no matter what medium you use for storage, its still on a DISC (yes, HD = Harddisc). This is however totally irrelevant to the task of the dj, which is to play a dj set designed and adapted to the event at hand. Did you know, that you can also just record your DJ set to a CD? I mean, I have heard of djs pre-recording a dj set to CD and letting it run from there, while pretending to mix it live. That just makes them shitty djs. So you see, the medium is not what makes the difference, the interaction with music is. Sure, you can record a set to your computer and press play, or you can do the same to a cd - Its not the medium which makes the difference there, but the DJ. Doesnt matter if you are using a computer, cd player, vinyl turntable or whatever - Those are just means to an end, and its the end that counts. The end is "to play a dj set designed and adapted to the event at hand." This task will, in no way, be hampered by the use of software instead of cd players, actually what it will do is give djs more options, as well as impose more demands on their skills to use those options to their fullest effect! Do you also bitch over people using software synths instead of hardware synths ? Come on! When you go under the surface its usually software anyways... no no, lets go back to the analoque sound.. its the only TRUE sound - Bah. Im amazed of how narrowminded some people in this forum are, if it was all up to you we would still be sitting in caves banging rocks together - and really, thats what you guys deserve for such backward thinking :-P Respect from me to all djs out there who dare to try something new, in the face of such prejudice. - Krell

The definition for DJ is very broad, some djs dont even come in contact with the music they spin but have a radio technician put it on for them (thats the case with some radio djs). I would say, it really depends... if the dj is really just showing up, pressing play, with no intention of doing anything with his persona/skill there other than wave his hands around, stare at people or whatever, then I think its a shitty DJ at best - but still a dj, afterall, he DID press play :-P Be that as it may, I think we must be open to the future - many dj tasks will become automated, and new dj tasks will appear to raise the bar for the DJ performance a notch. Perhaps Djs wont have to beatmatch tracks anymore for instance, instead, new tasks will become more important. Hard to understand for some of the dinosaurs outthere, but that was what it was like with the introduction of the cd player as well... "What ? You dont have to manually cue and start your records anymore ? WTF !!!". So - For me - What is all down to is "Why is this guy here at all, couldnt he just have sent a recording and thereby saved us the plane ticket ? Afterall, its not even like its his own music he is spinning". There needs to be a function for the DJ, a reason for him to be there, or else it, in truth, he doesnt matter. As a DJ I usually know exactly what music I want to spin at a given party, but Im still there to make modifications to the set as I go along, afterall, not everything can be anticipated - One must allow for the unexpected to be taken into account. So, who are these Djs who just press play on a lap top and do nothing live there at all anymore ? And are you SURE they are not doing anything ? - Krell

Deviant Electronics - Brainwashing Is Childs Play - Helix Records. Tracklisting: 1 Brainwashing Is Childs Play (8:24) 2 Viral Spiral (7:55) 3 First Machine (9:11) 4 Catharsis (7:47) 5 Automatum (9:34) 6 Elastic Bang (7:36) 7 When Then Is Now (7:33) 8 Oystadub (7:09) 9 Phenomenon Anon. (8:19) http://www.discogs.com/release/177601 Thats the closest for me, has a bit of everything. - Krell

Good anal is a bitch to learn, but give it time, its sure worth it. Apologies to djs not mentioned by me, with sore backs from giving me so much head, Im sure your time will come one day. - Krell

I suggest you make up your own mind, because either people just name the biggest name DJs (since they got the most exposure) or they name their friends. Sometimes they are right, sometimes not. What you need to do is go listen to DJs spin, perhaps give some online demo sets a chance. Some of my favourite djs include... pr0fane(dance n dust, dk) <- progressive & softer full on raider(3d vision rec, dk) <- blazing 3d vision style twillight full on & chillout. lepton(lysergic asylum, be) <- only heard a demo so far, but sounds promising, freaky psychedelic music suomi style & forest stuff. nasa(tribal vision, dk) <- dripping dark psychedelic trance and groovy progressive. jespar(chillmode/chilldown, dk) <- chillout, dub, downbeat. clark k(electrobeat.dk) <- funky dropping progressive & tech f.l.u.x.(germany) <- good progressive with a touch of electro. All of the above feature tight mixing, great track selection and good understanding of the audience & situation (from my point of view). I know plenty of more djs - but those are the ones I feel like mentioning at the moment, else the list grows too long :-) You should be able to find them using google, isratrance or psynews. - Krell

My scores has do to with my reaction to the music, since thats what matters. 13 - Going berserk, eating furniture and random items, forgetting logic, sense everything. 11 - Cannot be still, have to dance, getting shivers down my spine, crying. 10 - Cannot be still, have to dance, very joyfull experience. 9,75 - Cannot sit still, joyfull experience. 9½ - Moving along with the music, enjoying myself. 9 - Able to draw positive experiences out of the music, dancing is possible, but a bit heavy. 8½ - Dancing doesnt come easy, too many things annoy me. 8 - Dancing would be fake, frustration takes hold, mediocre music. 7 - I would prefer silence at this point. 6 - This is getting embarrasing. 5 - Is this made by a 3 year old ? 3 - Random noise. 0 - Noise sounding random, but actually getting even more to my nerves than true chaos. I dont rate tracks under 9 - its a waste of time. Only 5% of all music is rated above 9½ for me. The reason for all the grades are that I used a normal danish grading system for it. I have yet to encounter a track to rate 13. - Krell

I think it would have been divided into more sublabels to represent Psychedelic Sound Clubby Sound Chillout Sound The label was always pretty open to diversity, and I see no reason why that should have changed, not even if James Monroe spins progressive today. Afterall, a label has, in itself, has a legacy to live up to and a support structure around it. It stands for something, Flying Rhino stood for diversity and quality + courage to try out new stuff + the coolest of all logos. They already created Flying Rhino Freestyle, which was a chillout thing. - Krell

Perhaps thats why its good, music taking you to the limits :-) I love it as well, actually, only track I dont like on the Kino Oko album is the one with the Casino Royale sample. The rest just rocks. Looking forward to his liveset at our electrobeat event 10/3-07 here in Denmark. Dead Birds In the Sky stand out though. - Krell

Psychopod "Headlines EP" released on the real TIP Records in 1997 didnt get the fame it deserved. 6 tracks, almost an album, mind blowing, twisted, energetic and psychedelic tracks who till this day work wonders. Ololiuqui "Ololiuqui" released on Spirit Zone Recordings 1997 is also a master piece of psychedelia, melodies, grooves and a nice balance between progressive and full on "in your face" kinda sounds. Tristan "Audiodrome" released on Twisted Records in 2000 is an awesome psychedelic album, merging the organic psychedelic sounds of earlier koxbox/tristan/prana/ect/manmademan stuff with the new emering Tech & Progressive sound of the future. Progressive sounding tracks pounding along well over 145 BPM in conjuction with true psychedelia. Nice combination, so rarely (if not at all) seen today. Those were 3 of my all time partially overlooked favourites. Not that people didnt notice them, but they just didnt get the fame they deserved. They all represented steps in new directions at the time of their release, and had a huge impact on future releases as sources of inspirations for upcoming producers. - Krell

I hate all the gas I pass when I eat too much candy in combination with pizza. Really blows the roof the building. Suxorz! - Krell PS: I love the person who added the extra option to the poll. Love Love Love.

Well, Chaos Unlimited was perhaps THE first online store dedicated to selling psy releases, at least, it was the first store I noticed coming online back in the 90ies. So, its always sad to see when someone who played a pioneering role in developing the scene has to leave due to lack of support from the community it enriched with its initial initiative. Perhaps if you work on a project, professionally, within the scene for 10 years, and you have to give it up since people no longer support you, you will understand why its sad. - Krell

You can download and listen to the whole thing here, in 112kbps. http://krumelur.trance.net/ - Krell

try Eraser vs. Yöjalka - Lords Of The Liverdance http://www.discogs.com/release/689272 - Krell