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    More like Goasia and Jaïa

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    K.U.R.O./Charm/Perfect Rainbow - esp Kuro - Zoa, Charm - Brain Structure, Perfect Rainbow - Yugi EP

    Zen Paradox - The Light at the End EP

    Paradise Connection Discography 1 album + 1 EP

    Electric Universe - One Love

     

    all melodic beautiful music :)

    In Bruges

    in Movies

    Posted

    I thought it was rather surrealist, like the last scene in the play with weird costumes, the old building, the mist etc...the whole feel of the move basically.

    Non Psytrance Essential Albums

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    Evol Intent - Era of Diversion (DnB)

    Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation

    Venetian Snares - My Downfall (Original Soundtrack)

    DJ Shadow - Endtroducing

    4Hero - Parallel Universe

    Aglaia - 3 Organic Experiences

    Global Communication - 76:14

    FSOL - Dead Cities

    VA - Artificial Intelligence II

    Plastikman - Sheet One

    Do you really believe in it?

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    I don't really believe in any of that stuff. Not big into drugs either. I take a rational view of reality.

    +1

     

    Its all mumbo jumbo! I listen to goa/psy for the music. I think the samples of McKenna for example are used because they best complement the music and what you're feeling when you listen to the music.

    What will be next?

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    I'd say Hardstep/Darkstep mixed with Space Tribe like full-on or really fast Furious like sounds. Wicked broken bass, relentless drumloops and crazy, twisted psy sounds can go to the next level. I've tried to find really hard, fast Psy DnB but whatever I'd heard is definitely more on the morning, uplifting side.

     

    Upbeats does come close to this sound such as this release

    Smash Planet Earth http://www.discogs.com/Upbeats-The-Evol-In...rth/master/7481

    Then Bad Company - Fill Me In

     

    Also try out the title track from Evol Intent's Era of Diversion album at the 1:45 mark there are some crazy, squelchy, driving acid sounds. From the same album, The Awkward Rhythm of Dance is also spacey stuff.

     

    Ofcourse there's Nam Shub of Enki, I liked this track a lot.

    Nam Shub of Enki meets Kiki.ILL - _Clickher

     

    The track Breach by BSE is a beautiful melodic track.

     

    Raiden - Fallin also merits a listen.

     

    If you liked the tracks above, try out the Mixmag mix, John B - Trance 'n' Bass.

    Psytrance in Japan

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    oh there is a lot of psychedelic music , i agree...but what psychedelic trance started as, is now dead... too bad, we just have to look elsewhere for good psy...!

    Good psy is out there, its just harder to find because there are so many mediocre releases, but its out there for sure :)

    Science Fiction

    in Books and literature!

    Posted

    AHA!!! I knew someone would say that. The thing is that most of what Frank Herbert put into his books are actually ancient ideas presented in a futuristic way. Secret orders of witches, initiation rituals and drug usage allowing to share a glimpse into the future are as old as mankind itself. The whole genetic revealing stuff is simply another way of presenting the eastern concept of finding one's true self after reincarnation. And I won't even get into the whole arabic culture and islamic simbology which is like 99% of the description of "planet Arrakis".

     

    OK granted, it's a bit different for Asimov but still, the whole concept of predicting the future through mathematical equations and using a small-scale model to predict events at much larger scales is nothing new either, many scientists have spent their lives trying to crack such equations.

    Umm...that way you could argue that nothing is futuristic at all, because obviously anything written by any author has to be derived from what they have seen/experienced. I suppose the only way anyone could write anything that would be futuristic by your definition would be to build a time machine, go a 1000 years into the future, note down everything and come back and write about it :ph34r:

    The major styles of psytrance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    IMO

     

    Goa-This includes all styles of Goa (Old School, New School, Nitzho etc.)

    Full On-This includes all styles of Full On (Poppy, Israeli, SA, Dark, Hard etc.)

    Progressive-This includes Tectrance too since IMO most of them sound Proggy in my ears. Also minimal, trancey, housey psy etc.

    Darkpsy-This includes Forest, Russian style, Psycore, Horror etc.

    Experimental-Suomi, Australian, genres fusion, weird stuff

    Ambient/Downtempo-From beatless ambient to Shpongle

    and just plain Psytrance-For everything else, like MEEO for example or the old IM.

    Forest

    Tribal

     

    (Sub?)styles like Nizhonot and Suomi could help people looking for really specific recommendations.

     

    P.S. Someone once said MEEO was glitch.

    Science Fiction

    in Books and literature!

    Posted

    I used to love it as a teen (I was a HUGE Dune and Foundation fan), but then I just lost interest... I found that in the end most of it is not really that futuristic, it's basically a plot that could very well take place today but they add all these futuristic artifacts like robots and rocketships to make it look fancy. For example a conversation in a car with a friend driving to the next town becomes a conversation in a spaceship with an alien while flying to Mars, but in essence it's the same conversation. And most of the "future" is a mere extrapolation of how we see the world today, like for example all the hype in the 80s about a nuclear WW3 before the end of the century.

    I think thats simplying it a bit. Dune and Foundation are set thousands of years into the future. Positronics, Bene Gessirit, Three Laws of Robotics, the Spice etc...

    are imho quite far removed from today's world.

     

    If you want a real peek into the future, I mean very realistic, I really recommend the Mars Trilogy. Its highly under-rated and under-read if you ask me.

    Science Fiction

    in Books and literature!

    Posted

    I like some sci-fi, but a lot of it I don't like because it seems to have no feeling or human character. Like the authors come up with interesting general plots, but don't have the insight into humanity to make the plots truly interesting on a personal level. That's why I like fantasy so much, because fantasy authors tend to incorporate more actual human emotion and human psychology into their characters. In general.

    Asimov's First and Second Galactic series are all about society and have some psychological themes, but the style of his prose is very dry and unadorned. So it maybe about humans and emotions but it is not written in an emotional way.

     

    For a plot about humans and human character you should try the Mars Trilogy. It follows several main characters and their thoughts from beginning to end.

     

    Dune, I agree could be fairly abstract at times.

     

    I love Fantasy too :)

    My attempt at mixing DnB with acid/psy elements

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Just took a listen. Psy-ish elements and sounds in DnB is nothing new really

    The thing is, I haven't found a DnB track with a heavy trippy dose of Psy/Acid elements. I would love to hear any.

     

     

    ok just gave it a listen. The first thing that comes to mind is that I hear the drum... but where's the bass? IMO for d&b to work you need that loud brutal "wahwah"bassline. Also there are not enough (any?) FX in there, the different loops just "kick in" and then stop.

     

    other than that, there are some interesting ideas in there :)

    When I was mixing the sounds, I had to mix acid over the drum and bass. I couldn't overemphasize the bass because it would drown out the acid, so I turned it down a bit. This is why the bass is not the heavy, monster bass you hear in hard DnB tracks. Its just that the volume is lower. However it is still there and in the second half of the track 4:30 onwards you can hear it quite clearly :)

     

    As for FX, again with having drum and bass and a heavy-ish dose of acid I felt there wasn't that much "acoustic space" for any/more FX. It is just loops but whatever I've heard of DnB is a bit like that, loops...

     

    Wazup Karan how's it hanging? :)

     

    First of, i don't listen to breakbeat (except when it's from a psy-album)... So I wont know anything technical about it... But I like your track (except for a few "flaws")

     

    The rythm seems off in the first part of the track... Something is off in the Bass/drum/bassdrum devision, but Jikkentekki already commented on that, so I don't have anything to add on that part.

     

    At 3:35 it gets really interesting for me :) The glass-like synth you drop in about 20 seconds later sounds a little highpitched on my monitors though, maybe I would "tone it down" a little, EQ or maybe just another synth that sounds better? Again at 4:10 the Waowaooahh synth sounds just a liiiitle bit out of rythm, but if you correct it I think it will sound awesome :) The idea/progression is interesting, and the acidlines pretty cool as well :)

     

    BTW Lemmi I can hear a bass :P

    You really ought to listen to atleast these 2 Acid Break tracks. They are as trippy as any Psy/Goa track out there.

    Fatboy Slim - Acid 8000

    Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness

     

    Yeah its an irregular 3x4 beat with a irregular snare pattern on top of it as shown. Its just experimentation on my part, and I like the way it came off so I'm leaving it on for the moment.

     

    The 3:35 loop was hastily inserted by me when Jikkentekki pointed out that the track was dragging in the middle =p Maybe he right about getting something 100 times better after dumping a loop going nowhere ;) so given a bit of time I'll be putting more effort in finding an appropriate synth/pattern for the loop. Its not too bad sounding though. At 4:10 I fixed the loop, thanks for pointing that out :)

     

    Try getting your hands on some of the harder DnB, its crazy stuff for example....

    Counterstrike - Maniac

    Styles of Beyond - Subculture (Upbeats Mix)

    The Militia - You and I Know

    Noisia - Stigma

    Evol Intent - Era of Diversion - this has some hard squealing acidish sounds. I was actually trying to acid for an acid sound somewhat like this. Hard, driving as if were being forced through a narrow hole at high pressure or something so its like chauauauaua....

     

    DnB and Acid/Psy would be a mad combination, if someone did it properly :posford:

    Aphex twin

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    Damn, Im bored to hell by Aphex Twin. I just hear stupid melodies and annoying rhythms, but I've probably missed something, since surely all of you people couldn't be wrong :)

    Yeah, I don't get a lot of his stuff, like off the top of my head there is this one track called Bucephalus Bouncing ball or something which sounds like a ball bouncing....and it has seemingly random sounds :unsure:

     

    I'm not sure whats so great about Windowlicker either.

     

    More listening required....

    My attempt at mixing DnB with acid/psy elements

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Just took a listen. Psy-ish elements and sounds in DnB is nothing new really (although I haven't listened to any new DnB in years). DnB artists like Gridlok used to be fans of some of the earlier psy-sounds and common elements appear here and there. Still, it is nice to hear people playing with the idea more.

     

    As for your track, there are some good ideas there. Three things, however, stood out as areas you might want to look into. One was simply timing related. There are a number of notes in both the acidy lead and some of the drum beats that are obviously out of time. I understand the idea of "broken beats" but broken beats rarely equals out of time beats (this is the most noticable in the parts appearing around 1:30) so if it were my track I'd consider adjusting those hits. The second and third issues are somewhat related. While the sounds you do have are generally decent, there isn't a lot of sonic variation in the track as a whole and almost the entire track focuses on one synth patch doing a few different parts. This leads to the second problem of the track seeming to have very little or very slow development. To my ears many sections either need to be shorter, or more stuff needs to be added in and taken out to keep the ear interested and change the feeling of "space" in the track and to avoid it becoming a one dimensional track.

     

    As for things you could try, some more variation in supporting percussion loops and some more work with pads might go a long way in creating even more interest (at least in as far as making the kind of track I would envision). You might consider occassionally taking the parts that the acid patch is playing and dropping them into completely different synth patches at time for more variations. Some of the parts feel (to me) like they might go on a bit too long and shortening those up (in some cases even cutting the number of times a loop repeats in half) might really help in the development of the track and add to the energy, as you do have a number of changes going on, they just seem to be spaced out a bit far as it currently arranged.

     

    To address a problem many newer (and a lot of not so new) artists have for a moment. What seems like might be going on here is a problem many artists have, which is an inablilty to "kill your children". That is to say you write a part or sound or whatever you really like and you end up dwelling on it too long (the acid lines seems to be the "child" in this track), where as more often than not using said part half as much is probably better for the track. Or you spend too much time trying to get a part that isn't working into something that is "ok" and then you become too attached to it to cut it due to all the work. My tracks took a major turn for the better years ago when I developed the ablity to spend several hours working on a part and then be able to ruthlessly delete that part entirely (in my case, almost universally after deleting such a part, about ten minutes later I will usually end up with something new that is a 100 times better. Such are the rewards for musical ruthlessness). We all often get too attached to parts, either because they we like them too much, or we have spend too much time on them, and in either case we end up using something we shouldn't, or using something we should use but too much, because we have become too emotionally attached to it.

     

    With that said, don't take all this personally, I kind ended up using your post to address some issues I see a lot of artists having in their earlier years (I still have such problems myself and I've been writing music in one form or another for 20 years now). To get back to your track, there are some good parts here and the second half of the track seems to flow a little more smoothly. I think with some triming of the fat and the addition of some new flavors, the track could be even better, and isn't the idea to make the best possible track you can?

     

    For what it's worth,

    Jikkenteki

    Wow, thanks for that in-depth reply. It really helps me understand where I'm going wrong. You're right, sometimes I keep loops in for my personal satisfaction even it they detract from the track. I've made some adjustments to the track and reworked the middle section so it gets more interesting. I didn't change the 1:30 part because I just liked the irregular 3x4 beat better, it feels different and weird in a psy kind of way. I'll keep working on it :)
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