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UBAR TMARI am looking for music filled to the brim with ideas, sounds and turnarounds
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Putting down stuff for 15 options will take ages >_< so I'll just put down 2 tracks that I feel have perfect production.
Koxbox - Doktor Mesmer
Sound Pollution - Where
Yes, imo the production on these 2 tracks is better than anything Hallucinogen, Pleidians etc... have ever done. I think nowadays people associate production with "crisp" sounds and stuff, for me production is putting the right sounds in the right places, and adding them exactly when they are needed, so that you can't think of a single way in which you could improve the track. Everything just flows.....
As for visualising, if I close my eyes when listening to good goa/psy yeah I can visualise stuff spinning, tending to infinity, flashing etc... its fun =) Maybe Milkdrop has helped ^^ And obviously, the trippier the track, the better I can visualise. For example Source of Emotion, since its trippy but slow enough for you to keep your visualising in time with the music, anything 140 BPM and I can't keep up.
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Sounds really goodThats not a bad idea. An orchestra of real instruments and synths. All loaded up with VSTs and wobble bass. Glitches on the violins. Some side-chain compression on the Cello's and Flutes so that the EQ's dont muddle up. Add some sick-ass Trance-gate, sawtooth synth effect over the oboes, and add some ultra low sub-bass with ultraviolent-hoovers going fuckshit all over the place.
Could be the next big thing.
I agree I know nothing about classical music, but aren't the instruments used in those 400 years the same, and therefore the sounds the same? I'm not saying that the composition or the rhythms etc... are same, I'm saying the sounds are same.if you dont like such as music than say so,not that it sounds same or something like that cause its totally untrue.......
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Uhh I meant Macrometasomakosmos.Ubar Tmar! Macrosomametakosmos is amazing!!
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Ubar Tmar! Macrosomametakosmos is amazing!!
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No matter what, in the end I'll always get bored of classical because the instruments used are the same and therefore all the sounds are the same. If classical started using synths that would be interesting, but with the same 'ol sounds that have been sounding the same for 400 years, it just doesn't do it. I know the composition and structure etc.. might be superior but the sound itself can be rather repetitive and then it gets boring.
For example, I"m sure if you played the rhythm on Electric Universe's One Love track on a piano, it would sound fairly ordinary, but that sound that's coming out of that synth is soooo beautiful.
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Not really made with dancing in mind, but more as a sort of journey...the tracks are...
-Enigma - The Voice of Enigma [2:08]
-Koxbox - Doktor Mesmer [10:47]
-Sound Pollution - Where [9:46]
-Charm - Brain Structure [6:57]
-Etnica - Trip Tonite [9:05]
-Hallucinogen - LSD [6:43]
-Doof - Double Dragons [7:41]
-Message from God - On Mars [8:02]
-The Pleidians - Maia [11:10]
-Shakta - Shakti'Shakta [8:02]
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All these albums are the same?Dimension 5 - Transdimensional, Transwave - Backfire, Cosmosis - Cosmology, and Pleiadians - IFO
I guess you need to hear them again, how can cosmosis' acidic goa be the same as Pleidians' crazy psychedelia be the same as Dimension 5's uplifting melodies be the same as the smooth goa vibes of Backfire? 
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Ok but if we're going to try... it would have to be something with all kinds of fast melodies in a tight rhythm...
So how about..... http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=_pY08e_tdtA
Listen to the melodies at 1:09 and 2:31 ... it's trance!
well....there is so much classical music that gives me amazing feelings,where I can feel in GOA sometimes.........
some of them.....:Rachmaninov-Piano Concerto nr.3., http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=8CjEckL4994 (part 1.)
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=G7y8zLnQi-M&...feature=related ) (part 2.)
I liked both, something to get started with
There is definitely complexity in the tracks and it keeps your attention but I disliked the organ in classical music (organ right?) it kind of blares?! 
The thing about classical is that the rhythms and composition are fine, but the range of sounds is so limited that it can be rather dulling. You can't just go beyond. Every classical piece has the same sounding notes and the same instruments. -
As malevol3nt said, on the feeling it gives, since I'm of the opinion that music is fairly subjective and essentially the feeling music gives you is what you base you like/dislike of it on. What I want to know is that can classical music give me the same soaring, euphoric, joyful feeling that oldskool goa does? If so, which pieces can, because I have no knowledge of classical music...By what criteria do you want to compare these totally different types of music?
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To me, the first one looks more like a rap albums cover and the Talamasca one looks like a Rock cover
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+1I also tend to think the instruments often used just don't sound as good as electronic equipment used in goa.
Agreed with that useless acid stuff thing...too many tracks are randomly stuffed with acid. Do you have any Baroque music recommendations?Everybody has heard that crappy acid stuff where there is nothing but some kind of wobbly synth that hammers away up and down the scale for the entire duration of the song. That is not structure. That is garbage.
Good Baroque music from the Classical Music period is absolutely stuffed to the brim with wonderful strings, twitters, bass, and melodies that are able to complement each other and are pleasant sounding to the ears.
Doesn't matter how its made, what matters is the final product. Besides you can synthesize classical music now too.apples and oranges really. Plus it's comparing music that is recorded live with sometimes 100+ people, while electronic music can be edited at any time and improved at any time. With classical music you need to make that one take that is close to perfect. So it really is comparing apples and oranges.
+1that Goa is the Classical Music of Techno
If not, then which classical works beat goa/psy?No, not by a long shot. And really, if you think like that you should listen to more music.
Suggestions?As for your question, i'm not a classical music buff, but i grew up listening to it and there's sure power in there... you just got to know where to look and have an open mind
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If I told the average music listener that goa and psy compares with classical music...I'm sure I'd get a "are you crazy" look. I do feel that artistically, with the layers and melodies that goa has, it does compare with the best of any genre. So do you agree/disagree? To me classical music is fine but it isn't at the same level as goa has and sounds similar (though I suppose any genre you aren''t into like sounds similar) Is there any classical music (or heck music from any non-electronic genre) that beats goa and psy? I'm pretty ignorant of other genres so don't go off calling me a music n00b.
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Ubar Tmar - this guys makes psy like it should be
Chi-a.d. - ok people know him but he's not mentioned with the greats and I think he should be.
Two albums....
Har el Pruskky - Pagan Moon Child - very underappreciated dunno why
C.O.P. - Urban Alien - imo its quite ahead of its time
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Thanks Anoebis, that had me in splits :clapping: :clapping: The artwork is a real hoot (no offence to said niece), the image of that HP CD especially.I'm sure now, discogs is "dead":
http://www.discogs.com/release/1421611
Distributed at his family's reunion in 2008 which he DJed at. Limited to 10 copies. Artwork was custom drawn on bleached pulp with crayons by his 6 year old niece.
Tracklisting:
1 Paradise Connection Portamento
2 Cypher (2) Luis
3 Shakta Kick The Baby
4 Zoultan Loco Legend
Style: Noise, Goa Trance
Lol, so I can put all my promo-mixes online now...?
Weirdness, submitter's given it a 1/5 rating.
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I found a direct download link for the movie. Should be of better quality than the dailymotion one.google knows it all
ftp://ftp.psychedelic.be/psymovie/Karahan....Movie.1998.mpg
Obviously you mentally discount all the hippie mumbo jumbo, and I felt that the graphics were good. As for the BBC documentary thing, I think I know which video you are referring to, but that one seems to have been taken down. I re-uploaded it here =)Yuck, that was absolutely terrible. A jumbled mess of hippie propoganda along with about 6 minutes of shpongle interview (which was the only good part). LHS is absolutely brilliant though, as is the wonderland experience.
BTW there used to be an 8/9 minute bbc doco on goa trance from 1996 up on youtube. Lots and lots of searching and I can no longer find it? Anyone know what happened?
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Digitalis (Shakta's breaks project)
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Liquid Crystal Vision is great too, I loved the graphics and Raja Ram saying "Love is better than all the other 4 letter words" lol
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Vote goes to Eye Am the I
Other then that, Astral Warrior, Biocandy, Exit Eternity, Pathfinder, Healing Magic, Paranormal Activity are good.
I find that Chi-a.d. overdoes the use of vocal samples sometimes, and it gets irritating to hear them over and over again in the track. They break the flow.
Secondly, quite often, out of 4 beats, the lead synth will play for a 1 beat, and for the remaining 3 you have to hear the background beat which is again irritating.
None of this happens in Eye Am the I, maybe thats why I like it the most
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+1Dimension 5's music to my ears sounds too simple. The melodies are okay but lose the magic when repeated too many times during the track. But it's taste as we know.
Imo Pleiadians reached a higher artistic level with their complex rhythms that had more depth than Transdimensional did. Though Antidote and Beetlesnuff sure are good tracks
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Won't you have to be cock-eyed for that or something? =SI have a girly brain. I can cut it up into bits & focus on many different things at the same time. I can be in 3 different conversations at the same time. I often listen to music & watch a movie at the same time & I seem to be able to focus on both. I can even read & watch TV but that's a bit more difficult
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Music is too distracting while reading, it takes away from the book.
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*hides*Where's Transwave?
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If you have 2 lossless formats, isn't the only major difference between them the size? I mean each track takes up >50 MB so I'd say anything that can reduce the size would be best. There are plugins available for any format now. Ergo, APE/RAR.
Do you feel goa/psy can compare with classical music?
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This is really good stuff, thanks for posting it and the other links, I'm giving them a listen!