[Underestimated artists]

True, its just that these tracks are, IMHO, the best I've heard of their respective producers. Yes, I know saying that Where is the best Ofer Dikovsky track is a lot but the track is simply perfect.

 

Of K.U.R.O. I've only heard Zoa, and I'd say Brain Structure is definitely better.

[Underestimated artists]

Two tracks that I'm surprised get so little attention....

 

Charm - Brain Structure

Sound Pollution - Where

[How do you keep up with it all?]

I get you guys to do it, whatever comes up on Psynews, and then Discogs reviews, plus recommendations on Soulseek from other users. I still stuck in pre-2000 though, so much and so little time.

[The Border Territory]

A.B. Kazes - Out of Space Trance

 

I felt it had this "innocent" feel to it =p

[Other Electronica for me]

Tracks, not neccesarily electronic, that give feelings similar to those trance gives....

 

White Stripes - Seven Nation Army - the guitar is simply crazy!

Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness

Fatboy Slim - Acid 8000

Cranberries - Zombie - the vocals are really uplifting for me, they belong in a trance track

The Chemical Brothers - Private Psychedelic Reel

Rammstein - Ich Will - interesting electronic sounds

Second Phase - Mentasm

Enya - Tempus Vernum

Plastikman - Plasticine

Laurent Garnier - Wake Up

 

You can also try some regular trance tracks -> http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=54245

 

These won't give you the same amount of stimulation goa/psy does, but I hope atleast some of them will come close.

[Techno or Trance?]

People who love techno say that it has a lot of depth beneath the surface, but it simply can't take me to the places trance takes me to. Its just too repetitive, and frequently there isn't enough variation. The melodies in trance are unbeatable Techno is good, trance is better. I've never danced to techno so I can't judge them on that aspect. Trance also has more joie de vivre.

 

Trance

[Where does this all come from?!?!]

I 100% agree with you. Goa/Psy is absolutely amazing, on the best of it I feel like I'm flying into a star :posford: I heard my first psy track 2 years ago and haven't touched another genre since!! For me its the highest form of music. If I close my eyes while listening to goa I can see all sorts of crazy visuals =p

 

For most people, goa/psy is just too weird and crazy I think, but if you like it, nothing compares. I've been trying to find music that gives me the same level of stimulation and I've found nothing

[looking for some true tribal up and downbeat?]

I think Amma by The Nommos is my fav tribal track till now, but I haven't heard much tribal. The track has this amazing, shiver inducing female vocal sample in the middle that, to me, sounds like it comes from the bowels of the Earth of something

 

The didgeridoo can sound really good too, try Aphex Twin's Didgeridoo track and the album a.b. didgeridoo oblivion - lucid dreaming

 

FSOL's Papua New Guinea is a nice tribalish track.

[Song I've been working on... Thoughts?]

Just a honest critique. For my taste the track was a little on the weird side. You could try making adding different rhythms instead of using the same ones throughout. Also, try improve the "flow" of the track with transitions between different patterns. For a start its fine, one can see that you have put effort into making the rhythms and melodies.

[First attempt at a psy-chill track]

Its sounds fine to me. Good work for a first attempt It just needs some variation and improving the melodies a bit would help too.

[Regular trance]

that is acid techno to me

otherwise i agree with most things on your list (the rest i don't know)

Well it gives me the feeling that I associate with trance, not with techno. But its really hard, so maybe you're right and it crosses the line into techno.

[After 10 years... I finally know what is the best goa track ever! :)]

Nice! :posford: Vitan, I do like this track.

 

I've recently become enamored with Slinky Wizard - Supernatural.

I know its probably more psy than goa.

Wow, thanks for that one, I would have never found it myself. Its goa all right, but more like hard acid goa.

[No good playlists]

I love mind bending stuff too. IMHO if you want deep mindbending stuff then head for hard acid. I made a list of the really acidic stuff. Here goes.....

 

Bamboo Forest - Sadhu (Goa)

Cosmosis - Gift of the Gods (Goa)

Chemical Brothers - Believe (Breaks) - The acid only peaks towards the end, maybe there is a mix that focuses on the acid more.

Darshan - Speed Freak (Dark Goa) - This is you usual darkpsy track but the middle of this track has some amazing acid.

Doof - Double Dragons (Goa)

Dr. Octopus - Dr. Octopus (Trance)

Fatboy Slim - Acid 8000 (Breaks)

GMS - Juice (Full-on Psy)

Hardfloor - Acperience 1 (Trance) - The essential hard acid trance track for many.

Hallucinogen - Space Pussy (Goa/Psy)

Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness (Tweekin' Acid Mix or Original) (Breaks)

Kopfuss Resonator and DJ Jörg - Whipbird

Mama Indica - Radioactive Rain (Hard Acid Goa)

Moonweed - Telepath (Trance)

MWNN presents Yogi and Grey One - Big Trouble in Outer Space (Dark Goa)

Razor's Edge - Exquisite Sin (Exquisite Acid Mix)

Solar Quest - Acidophilez album (Trance) - The entire album is good acid trance, but Acid Air Raid (George's All Nighter Mix) will blow your mind, it blew mine for sure.

Space Tribe vs Electric Universe - Rabbit Hole (Full-on Psy) - Plus every single track on Thru the Looking Glass , get it!!

Stakker - Stakker Humanoid (House)

Uberzone - The Brain (Braindusted) (Acid Breaks)

Zodiac Youth - Fast Forward the Future (Voodoo People Mix) (Goa) - Make sure you get this mix, the Hallucinogen mix has a lot less acid.

 

I also highly recommend the Psychedelic Goa Core series, especially the first one. They're fast, driving, acidic mixed comps. Ubar Tmar is good too. And there was a topic on "Crazy Complex stuff" recently, it'll be in the next few pages of General somewhere.

 

Btw I don't find whatever I've heard of Skazi and Aphex Twin particularly mind bending, atleast when compared to the tracks listed above.

[albums or eps that we all think are milestones in the psy scene]

I have never considered "The Gathering" a milestone... Of all the IM albums (except Vicious (un)delecious) it is the least interesting. I think.

 

- A

+1

 

Ott - Blumenkraft

 

Say what you want, I don't like it. The first song is good, yeah. But the rest not IMO. Never understood the fuss that chill fans made about this one...

+1

 

Umm...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I find a fair amount of chilll uninteresting. Its not bad or anything but all of it sounds similar and it isn't psychedelic enough for me.

 

I also don't like GNOR that much, they need more rhythm and melody. As "acid techno" they're fine but not as "acid trance".

[YOUR all time top 10 techno albums]

I'm not really into techno, but I think the Mentasm EP is one of the greatest EPs of all time. Mentasm and Mind to Mind showcase two completely different sides of techno and both are compelling tracks.

 

I also like....

Plastikman - Spastik

Plastikman - Plasticine

Galaxy 2 Galaxy - Hi-Tech Science

Sterac - Asphyx

Aztec Mystic - Jaguar

3 Phase feat. Dr. Motte - Der Klang Der Familie

Laurent Garnier - Wake Up

 

And I dislike Choice's Acid Eiffel, I find it really boring.

 

Otherwise I'm a total newbie when it comes to techno.

[Regular trance]

Regular trance tracks I like in order of best to less best...

 

Dance 2 Trance - We Came in Peace

Solar Quest - Acid Air Raid

Sasha - Xpander

Space Manoeuvres - The Seventh Planet (Leama & Moor Mix)

Rabbit in the Moon - Out of Body Experience

Future Sound of London - Dead Cities

Orbital - Remind

Quench - Dreams

Nathan Fake - The Sky was Pink (James Holden Mix)

The KLF - What Time is Love?

Aphex Twin - Digeridoo

Resistance D - Cosmic Love

Aril Brikha - Winter

Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix)

Lost Tribe - Gamemaster

Balil - Parasight

Royksoop - A Beautiful Day Without You

Brainchild - Symmetry (C-Mix)

The Light - Panfried (Original Mind over Matter Mix)

Jam & Spoon - Stella

Orbital - Belfast

Union Jack - Red Herring

Underworld - Thing in Book

Rabbit in the Moon - Deeper

Emmanual Top - Acid Phase

Three Drives - Greece 2000 (Classic)

4Voice - Eternal Spirit (Northern Mix)

Robert Miles - Children (Dream Version)

Gabriel & Dresden - Lament (Satoshi Mix)

 

At the least, the first half of this list is definitely good stuff.

[After 10 years... I finally know what is the best goa track ever! :)]

Somtimes after listening to this track I feel that this is the one. The approach here is completely different, over the course of 21 minutes the melodies and rhythms slowly wash over you, carrying you away on some sort of infinite voyage....

 

Paradise Connection - Source of Emotion

[Yahel's covers]

What I like about psy covers is that instead of a picture of the project members trying to look cool, we get to see something interesting and representative. I guess Yahel doesn't get this.

[Can you help out with some label / artist sugestions?]

I know you're not looking for Goa, but this album was released in '99 so you might not have heard it, Blue Planet Corporation's Blue Planet album might be to your taste.

[Gasolin3 Shtuffs]

Great stuff, nice to see the wallpaper versions!

[Recommend me fast, Hard hitting breaks/DnB]

I don't see that much of a difference between DnB and Breaks, DnB is just faster and so has simpler beats.

 

EDIT: I get it now, DnB is way faster and has a bom---tak-----bom-tak beat instead of a more complicated break. The sounds in between are shorter and high pitched to go with the speed.

[Please, a few recommendations.......]

Great to see someone get infected! \o/

 

A Guide to Goa Trance I wrote. It should help.

 

And if you like the really crazy acidic goa tracks, then I recommend the "Psychedelic Goa Core" compilations and the "Live" album from Asia 2001.

[Har-Ell Prussky - Pagan Moon Child]

This is a great album. I'll just post my Discogs review here.....

 

This is an under-rated album. After all these years, this album has aged well. There are some great moments, like when the melody comes in around 1:50 in Frequency Sucker. This album also has a strong experimental streak, each track is different. Hidden Dreams is a trippy, floating track, quite rare to see a something like it, while Virtual Island is a harder hitting track with something of a break in it. Space Child II has hats, acid and a melody combined very well. Listen carefully, and you'll notice the level of detail in it. Sleepwalker has this great futuristic atmosphere, with the vocal sample and synths repititively fading in and out. Waterdrome is unusually dark for a closer, similar to Sleepwalker, but darker.

 

Overall, this album is a must for anyone who's interested in or loves the oldskool Goa sound =] Produing an album like this in '94 is quite a feat.

[Prodigy]

Fat of the Land is my favourite, every track on it is top notch. Music for the Jilted Generation and Experience are equally good. I didn't like AONO that much, its okay, the Girls track is fun.

 

I like the way Prodigy balanced being more mainstream than other electronic acts but still producing good stuff.

[The cancers of todays Psy scene]

I too initially thought psy was dead, but then later realised that as Basilik mentioned, its the signal to noise thing. There is enough good psy out there, you just need to find it IMO dark psy is psychedelic enough, its the progressive part that I dislike.

 

To me progressive psy is .... HOUSE, nothing more.