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    Recommend me fast, Hard hitting breaks/DnB

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    Black Sun Empire

    Thanks, they even have a track titled "Arrakis"!!

     

    Big beat

     

    Got no idea,

     

    Big beat

     

    More big beat

     

    Techno influenced big beat

     

    Are you sure your actually looking for drum n bass?

    Well someone told me Voodoo People was DnB and then I don't pretend to know much about Breaks and DnB (which is why I opened this topic), plus no harm in extending one's musical horizons right? If I like fast Big Beat tracks why shouldn't I like DnB?

     

    Note: I'm looking for Big Beat and DnB both, not just DnB

    My First Attempts

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    I understand you just want to make good melodies and rythms, and thats also the best place to start IMO :) But production skills is neccesary, and when you get a hang of it, you will suddenly think that is funny to play around with as well :)

    Thanks for the info :) I'm checking out SynSun't tutorial which looks good. You're right about production skills be neccesary.

     

     

    First a general remark: are you using a sub when mixing? Cause I think that somewhere down the line you hear much more bass than you put in your tracks. IMO there is something that you have to change, either in your sound system arrangement or your EQ settings... [EDIT: it seems buzzman had a more in-depth reply than me ;) ]

     

    Now for the tracks:

    haha those synthlines in Fever Dream sounds very much like Shaolin Wooden Men indeed :) The ideas are interesting, the main problem I'm having with your track is the production values: the bass is pretty thin and the mids stand out too much in front of the soundstage... and since those synths are pretty harsh sounding already, pushing them in the front of the soundstage is NOT a good idea...

     

    Alien Machinations I like less... IMO this kind of music just doesn't work well without a massive rolling bassline. If you could ditch the thin kicks and bassline and replace them with a big rolling bassine I think it would work out MUCH better. Again, there is the problem of the synths standing out too much in front of the soundstage, for example there is a synth that starts around 6:20 that just SCREAMS, I felt compelled to turn down the volume or else I think that my ears would've started to bleed... Oh and I don't really see where does the track becomes "lighter" and even less when it becomes classic trance? :blink:

     

    But keep up the good work and don't mind about the music theory, the more theory you'll learn, the more you're gonna want to stick to formulas which will eventually kill your originality... Just do stuff that sounds good to you and if it IS good, others will follow. I'm pretty sure that groundbreaking acts like Kraftwerk or Derrick May didn't know shit about music theory either ;)

    I think I unconsciously tend to make the lead synth too loud as compared to the beat :P I re-uploaded Fever Dream with the length cut by a minute, so I hope it doesn't drag now. Yup Alien Machinations needs work, I think I should have continued with the dark theme instead of transforming it. Its supposed to get lighter towards the end, but everyone is open to their own interpretation, since those rhythms are kind of off-beat anyway.

     

    Thanks a lot for the review, it really nice to get a review like this so I know where I'm going =))

    Buzzman-Schmusic

    in Free Music Promotion

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    It flows along nicely, I thought the bassline was groovy. There were some nice melodies there, with a IM-ish one at the end that rounded it off well. Maybe in the middle you could add an extra layer, because it sounds a little minimal...unless you wanted that effect. For an ending instead of fading it out...you could maybe echo the symphonic layer and fade that out?

     

    The sample in the beginning was fun btw :)

    neo goa trance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    due to it is impossible to find pure neo goa trance forums i ask to hidden neo goa trance lovers recommandations about neo goa trance releases since Amithaba Buddha Goa Gate or biter harder in the kind of The Misted Mupped From The Legend

    I heard both albums. For stuff like Goa Gate, you can try any newskool artist - Filteria, Goasia, Khetzal etc...Aeros' list is a good starting point.

     

    The album "The Legend" reminded me of Space Tribe in parts, though Space Tribe is harder and more acidic. You could actually try full-on from the late 90s which had a lot more in common then, for example comps like VA - Resonance Mood (Matsuri) (1997) and VA - Full Vol. 2 - The Israeli DAT Mafia (1998)

     

     

    (couldn't resist)

     

    neo=new

    new=new

    oldskool=newskool

     

    no dude it's all the same!!!

    You never know with the way people sub-genrefy now-a-days <_<

    neo goa trance

    in General Psytrance

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    Like my rubbish bullshit answer implies (with the "?" sign after "pure neo goa trance") i don't know what pure neo goa is, and when the dude who created this topic sees my post, i'll take that he will give an explanation on what it is, since i asked him what it is!! That i put the NHJO remark inthere was just my sorry attempt to put a little humor in this (soon to be dead) place... And that doesn't change the fact that i don't know what neo goa is!

     

    And i respect that you want this place clean and only about psytrance, 100%! but did i open a topic about anything, or replied to something, OR wrote something that isn't psytrance related??? Dude, i understand that you are mad because of all the bullshit lately, but chill out... I have never done anything on this site that was out of line, and I try to contribute as good as i can with reviews and other stuff, so it's IMO pretty sad that you have to act like this towards me.. You have closed off-topic, cool, no problem. You don't want people to write about stuff that's not psy related, well ofcourse! But i didn't do any of those things, and im actually pretty pissed off about the way you talk to me right know(YES i have a problem with my temper)

     

    EDIT: And as you can see, karan129 also asked what he ment with "Neo goa" so i don't see a reason to flame him either.

    Uhh nevermind, I think Mars replied because he saw that out of all the replies to this thread, Anoebis' was the only useful one, and all other replies were pretty much off-topic. If there were atleast some useful replies I don't think he would have bothered.

     

    Sorry about that Mars!

     

    So "newskool goa trance" and "neo goa trance" are two different things?

    Zodiac youth

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    I thought the Hallucinogen remix was quite weak, the Voodoo People remix was much better. The Angelfish mix is awesome!! And the other tracks are good too, the MWNN one is ok...

     

    If you like powerful, fast acid synths I recommed the Psychedelic Goa Core series. GOA CORE!! Goa Gil's Spiritual Trance Vol. 2 is good too =) Tim Schudlt's made some good stuff too.

    My tracks

    in Free Music Promotion

    Posted

    When one starts listening to the track it sounds good, but a few minutes in you realise that its same thing all the way through. IMHO it needs a build, a climax and maybe instead of mixing all the layers, have one clear, great melody that sticks in the head. Also, well...the style isn't standout, in the sense its been done before. Production is good though.

    My First Attempts

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    I'm using FL btw...and those 2 synths that come with it, TS404 and 3xosc, very basic I know, but it works for me and I don't have to spend ages figuring out arcane syth interfaces and settings.

     

    I think you should learn some about music theory. You know; learn the rules, then break them. I'm listening to the first track now. It's neatly arranged, but I really think you could get your idea across more effectively with some harmony knowledge under your belt. That being said, the song still conveys the feeling of a fever dream, like the title promises. It sounds amateurish to my ears, but that isn't necessarily bad. Some good build-up ideas in there. You've listened mainly to yourself which is great. This doesn't sound a lot like any other music I've heard. The closest thing would probably be something from the Australian label Psy-Harmonics, such as Shaolin Wooden Men. The track drags on a bit in my opinion (meaning it's longer than I reckon it has to be).

     

    Alien Machinations suffers more from your lack of musical training. The melodies in the end are (?) supposed to sound uplifting, but end up sounding even more quirky, off-beat and weird than the rest.

     

    Your mixes are ok overall, but some things are way too loud compared to the rest, specifically the melodies in the end of Alien Machinations.

     

    If there's one piece of advice I want to give you, it's got to be this: Approach music from a musical point of view. Many people who start out making psy-trance go for the weird synth-sounds and the side-chaining first. I say listen even more to what your brain wants to express through music. You don't even have to care about standards such as 4/4 kick drum if you don't want to. A great device for converting your emotions into music is musical theory, and preferably some instrumental skills. This will allow you to analyse your thoughts, for example "I'm feeling a mellow kind of sentimental sadness", and turning that into musical output, for example "This calls for minor key with slow, grounded melodies and subtle harmonics" or something like that. You can then start jamming like that on your keyboard, or just putting something sad in your piano roll in FL or whatever you're using.

    Thanks for the in-depth reply :) You're right, I have no musical training at all. Before getting FL, I didn't even know what a kick drum was. For a track, I start off with a vague idea and then make whatever comes, or whatever "feels" right. I course in music/music production would definitely be helpful, if I can find the time for it. I like my tracks having a different, experimental edge which is why the track came off as off-beat. The end of Alien Machinations is meant to be happy, so it completes the journey from a dark atmosphere to a light one. I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't have the inclination to make more mainstream stuff first before experimenting.

     

    Musical theory and production skills can always be learnt, do you feel that there is some inherent worth in the tracks?

     

    I make music myself(amateur level) and have never played an instrument.. I've allways been interested in music and have analized alot, wich i think is a good thing to do if you want to understand what you are producing yourself. so i don't think it's neccesary to "know all the rules to break them" if you just have a good pair of ears, but it will save you alot of trouble and time :) I've messed around with FL and reason for several years, and now i work in cubase. After several years i've learned to put my thoughts into the music, you know, make my idea's in the way i imagined then.. And im still progressing... But i can imagine that if i had experience with other instruments, i could have saved ALOT of time to get to the level where im at now.

     

    But mainly, your music is lacking production skills (frequency interferrence, EQ'ing, compression ect) but it's definatly not bad at all for your first attempts :) I don't know if you watched it, but Synsuns mixing-secrets tutorial really helped me alot with the production part... wich someone would have told me about it years ago :) Watch it, learn how to level the different elements, and use a EQ and make the sounds fatter and more pleasent to the ears. It really makes a BIG BIG difference!

     

    Like i say to myself, Keep it up, and remember, Rom wasn't build in a day :D

    I tried Cubase once, but it was simply way too complicated. I couldn't even figure out how to get a wave sample to play in it, compare that with FL where everything is super-intuitive. I haven't seen any tutorials till now, just kind of clicked around and figured out stuff, so Synsuns tutorial should be pretty helpful. Do you know of any other good tutorials?

     

    As for the "production" aspect, I really don't like that aspect of making music, it isn't as much fun as making melodies and rhythms, so I never bothered learning how to do it :rolleyes: but I guess I will have to in the long run. Any tutorials on production, because well whats "EQing"? "leveling"? "frequency interference"?

    My First Attempts

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Hi, its taken time but I've made 2 tracks which imo are listening-worthy. Both tracks are long, because I like to have a nice "intro", then build..climax... and end

     

    Fever Dream [bPM 139]

    Aimed for something offbeat, with enough changes and different sounds to keep the listener interested, there is a nice acidic intro.

     

    Alien Machinations [bPM 158]

    This track is about a transition from darkpsy into classic trance, so the track slowly progresses from a dark psy bassline, through a lighter full-on ish part through to a happy, melodic classic trance ending.

     

    So...am I heading in the right direction?

    New school gems that never got the recognition they deserve

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Space Tribe - Thru The Looking Glass (2005)

    What AMAZING acidic full-on. Just listen to the acid that kicks in around 1:00 in R U Normal or whats going on in A Pinch of Psychedelic For me, these are some of the very few tracks that come close to the all time acid track Acid Air Raid.

    Ubar Tmar - Macrometasomakosmos (2002)

    Oh yeah!! Psychedelic trance which is actually psychedelic! :o twisting! swirling! and complex!

     

    Other albums (the ones which got more recognition) I liked are -

    Androcell - Efflorescence

    Capsula - The Synthesis of Reality

    Deviant Electronics - Blunt Instruments

    Ghreg on Earth - Sigilweaver

    Principles of Flight - Nighttime Lullabies

    Eastern Influenced Goa and Psy trance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    If you like sitars, Shakta vs Moonweed - Micronesia.

    Chi-a.d. - Pathfinder

    Bass Invaders - Nene Naha

    Elysium - Monzoon has this eastern-tribalish atmosphere

    Juno Reactor - Beyond the Infinite

     

    There was this Juno Reactor track with a lots of Indian female chants, something along the lines of "Om Shanti Om" I think. I just can't find it now >_<

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