Sarrsari Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 When did you discover psytrance? Because obviously you wouldn't ask such questions should you known the scene better... He's been producing trance music since 1995 and released at least two albums considered classic - Cosmology in 1996 (goa) and Synergy in 1998 (psytrance). On his next 4 albums he experimented with different sounds - on Intergalactic from 2000 he did his interpretation of progressive / minimal trance, 2002's Contact saw him trying a conceptual theme of human evolution, while the last two (Trancendance from 2007 & Psychedelica Melodica) were both directed towards the dance-floor and full-on crowd, though in my opinion they're still head and shoulders above generic Isreali stuff and the compromise between 'intelligent' and 'for the masses' is spot on. Sorry for the rant, but I couldn't leave a comment like that unanswered Well, I've listened to psy for a couple of years, it's only recently that I've became obsessed with it. So for the past two years I've been collecting as much info as possible. When it comes to Goa and old school artists I'm not very familiar. I'm not surprised you react the way you do, but you got to understand I don't put too much emphasis on styles, famous labels, how long "they've" been doing it and such. I simply listen to what I like and keep tabs on the artists I think create great music. Didn't mean to offend anyone by asking that question. There's only one way to find out right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Well, I've listened to psy for a couple of years, it's only recently that I've became obsessed with it. So for the past two years I've been collecting as much info as possible. When it comes to Goa and old school artists I'm not very familiar. I'm not surprised you react the way you do, but you got to understand I don't put too much emphasis on styles, famous labels, how long "they've" been doing it and such. I simply listen to what I like and keep tabs on the artists I think create great music. Didn't mean to offend anyone by asking that question. There's only one way to find out right? No worries, man! I don't feel offended - just wanted to shed some light on that subject... If you can, please check Cosmosis' first albums - they're great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYCEL Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Atmos - The Only Process Because...um...uh...bah, forget it, it's only momentary. Great great track though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarrsari Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 No worries, man! I don't feel offended - just wanted to shed some light on that subject... If you can, please check Cosmosis' first albums - they're great! Will do, anything else I should listen to? :posford: :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 First track that came to mind; Talking Heads - Born under Punches (live) :drama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 As for psy I choose: 1. Hallucinogen - Angelic Particles 2. Crop Circles - Full Mental Jackpot (Pleiadians Remix) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 aha finally a non-psy addition thanks abasio! oh then, the dire straits - sultans of swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 the dire straits - sultans of swing nice some time ago I watched some street musicians play this track...and they did it really, I mean REALLY good, I got goosebumps and then I realized how cool the music actually is :drama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advance Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Jörg on Mushroom - The Messenger Phreaky - Over the Moon Amazing energy & change of pace at the end! Jaia - Mai Mai How many times have I heard this & I still love it so much. The whole feel, so melodius with nice clean enrgy. Yes yes YESSSS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 U2- With or without you For an outstanding blend of 80's synth pop, the then so popular rock-pop, amazing use of U2's trademark infinte guitar and the standardly stellar song writting courtesy of Bono... A timeless track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advance Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Replying to best tracks evargh! If U2, how about Sunday Bloody Sunday? Amazing, amazing song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 on Intergalactic from 2000 he did his interpretation of progressive / minimal trance I disagree. The album has _loads_ of melodies. He made em more "dry" so it may sound minimal in that sense - but actually this album is quite the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I disagree. The album has _loads_ of melodies. He made em more "dry" so it may sound minimal in that sense - but actually this album is quite the opposite. I disagree. I didn't wrote that Intergalactic isn't melodic - I said Cosmosis in that album showed his interpretation of minimal / progressive sound, which you confirmed writing that it may sound minimal due to dry production. I wouldn't say it's -full- of melodies though - it's musical and harmonic, but only few tracks have real melodies... Anyway, seems like you agree with me after all. Sorry to disappoint you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I disagree. I didn't wrote that Intergalactic isn't melodic - I said Cosmosis in that album showed his interpretation of minimal / progressive sound, which you confirmed writing that it may sound minimal due to dry production. I wouldn't say it's -full- of melodies though - it's musical and harmonic, but only few tracks have real melodies... Anyway, seems like you agree with me after all. Sorry to disappoint you seems like our interpration of minimal trance is different then. I suggest checking out stuff like "shiva chandra - gecko" to hear what minimal to me sounds like. althou melodies on this one are rather dry and not that obvious and fluffy, they're still there. that's why I couldn't go saying this is minimal trance. and that's not all: there's so much fx trickery thrown around on this album it only starts to open up after several listenings, in my case at least. "synergy" was a long-time winner of his productions for me - but after listening to both albums countless of times this one took the advantage. and for progressive - something like zenon, iboga and tribal vision would be my choice. this album... it's one sweet mothafuckin psy-album. no less, prolly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Replying to best tracks evargh! If U2, how about Sunday Bloody Sunday? Amazing, amazing song. Yeah, from a certain viewpoint Sunday Bloody Sunday would be their career defining song, but while it is awesome, it is IMHO the moment when their careers and future musical directions were definitely shaped: the world (and the guys from the band) fully realized the potential and the profitability of socially aware, conscious and politically charged music Not that it is a bad thing, but sometimes I have the feeling that U2 gave in their innocence and pure music in favor of politics and over the top preaching... I still hold tracks like the highly emotional Bad or the rowdy Fire to be their finest tunes! And speaking of politics, how could we overlook Pride (in the name of love)? A wonderful, completely amazing tribute to Martin Luther King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles) One of the best evargh for electronic music in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Metallica - One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 seems like our interpration of minimal trance is different then. I suggest checking out stuff like "shiva chandra - gecko" to hear what minimal to me sounds like. althou melodies on this one are rather dry and not that obvious and fluffy, they're still there. that's why I couldn't go saying this is minimal trance. and that's not all: there's so much fx trickery thrown around on this album it only starts to open up after several listenings, in my case at least. "synergy" was a long-time winner of his productions for me - but after listening to both albums countless of times this one took the advantage. and for progressive - something like zenon, iboga and tribal vision would be my choice. this album... it's one sweet mothafuckin psy-album. no less, prolly more. You can't let go, can you? As I mentioned, all I said was that Billy on Intergalactic did his interpretation of progressive / minimal. Do you know what 'interpretation' means? He just took his old psychedelic trance a'la Synergy, but recorded it in a way that was most popular at the time, i.e. put more emphasis on bass, rhythms and effects; but still threw melodies here and there. It's not minimal / progressive as you seem to think I thought; it's his interpretation of this aesthetics... End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chechko Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 There are soo many!! So many for so many occasions! But a special one for me is Xerox & Illumination - Funkenstein It really gets my blood pumping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You can't let go, can you? As I mentioned, all I said was that Billy on Intergalactic did his interpretation of progressive / minimal. Do you know what 'interpretation' means? He just took his old psychedelic trance a'la Synergy, but recorded it in a way that was most popular at the time, i.e. put more emphasis on bass, rhythms and effects; but still threw melodies here and there. It's not minimal / progressive as you seem to think I thought; it's his interpretation of this aesthetics... End of. hah Quite strong words there Lassie. Sounds like you're able to get inside Billy's head then as you know what his motives for the album were. Yes as you said, it's not minimal as I seem to think minimal. Neither it is minimal in the sense you'd mark in discogs as "minimal" either. But hey what's prog what's minimal? As many _interpretations_ (hard word to type!) as there are listeners. You're right saying it's minimal. I'm also right saying it's not. I simply try to influence the general consensus towards this album accordingly to my views. I think it's an album not to be missed. "minimal" seems to have bad echo these days and I wouldn't like that to be the reason for somebody not checking this album out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 can't let it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommii Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 For me, it's gotta be Chi A.D - Exit Eternity this song defines beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 You're right saying it's minimal. I'm also right saying it's not. I simply try to influence the general consensus towards this album accordingly to my views. I think it's an album not to be missed. "minimal" seems to have bad echo these days and I wouldn't like that to be the reason for somebody not checking this album out! Well, that's a very noble thing to do, but you're doing it at my expense, suggesting that I don't know what I'm writing about. Once again, I don't think Intergalactic is minimal / progressive, but it was surely influenced by them, hence the 'interpretation' thing. And it is corker of an album, agreed. Oh, and it's your problem if you think 'minimal' has negative connotations. I will use it whenever I feel like. And it fits perfectly it this case, as Intergalactic is definitely more minimal than Synergy & Cosmology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Well, that's a very noble thing to do, but you're doing it at my expense, suggesting that I don't know what I'm writing about. Once again, I don't think Intergalactic is minimal / progressive, but it was surely influenced by them, hence the 'interpretation' thing. And it is corker of an album, agreed. Oh, and it's your problem if you think 'minimal' has negative connotations. I will use it whenever I feel like. And it fits perfectly it this case, as Intergalactic is definitely more minimal than Synergy & Cosmology. I'm not doing anything by your expense. You only get offended by my opinions if you decide to. It's your own choice. It's matter of opinion to see this release as minimal/not minimal. You can and should express your opinions as you wish. I'm doing the exact same thing. The only difference is, you want to get offended by different opinion and thus defend your views and reject mine. For me it's just influencing the public in the direction of my views. As I already said, we're both right as there is no wrong or right to this. hihi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'm not doing anything by your expense. You only get offended by my opinions if you decide to. It's your own choice. It's matter of opinion to see this release as minimal/not minimal. You can and should express your opinions as you wish. I'm doing the exact same thing. The only difference is, you want to get offended by different opinion and thus defend your views and reject mine. For me it's just influencing the public in the direction of my views. As I already said, we're both right as there is no wrong or right to this. hihi OK, that's futile Let's agree to disagree on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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