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  1. Thanks, well you know, you have to make judgements and make a decision. Given the original post was 2012 it seems ever so slightly late, which is a factor.
  2. I wrote some thought but was not sure to post them in the end. Sorry.
  3. Lunarave has a new album out in the last 2 weeks. He does this "doubled up" basslines (not sure if it a delay added or some kind of duplication but it gives the bass a different feel), which is a little unique, technically that loses a bit of punch and immediacy - it blurs the bass note transient definition - , but that's his style and he has a strong style I have respected his work since long ago and his early music as well. It could be some delay based psychoacoustic effect, I recall this plug in sounded a bit like this effect when I tried it on bass line: https://www.tone2.net/akustix.html One of my favourite artists, always done his thing, not followed others, unique sound for psy which is not easy. I get a feeling he has musical training or understands theory as his compositions suggest, that adds another dimension as well. I am enjoying it so far, there is some sublime melodic work on the first track of the album. Worth a listen ! "The edge of life" Some nice cinematic and synthwave melodic synths in the mix. I just bought the album to show some love... as this is big work he has done, complex music for complex times in which we live, sad, beautiful and powerful. Something I like is he has never been afraid to do is keep the kick and bass motoring and that has a deep cleansing effect ! It cleans your head right out.
  4. Tristan produces the "thing" very strongly... at Curlies 02:49 onwards and it keeps going especially 03:01 onwards... to see people loving it like that is it, those moments. That's why we like it : ) I don't any other music that does it quite like psy trance and Goa. That bass line grind is great.
  5. Well this was a wonderful thing to log into and see ! And especially to hear 2K was kicking up dust in the birthplace ! I am in communicado with Draeke at this moment via email. I appreciate the wonderful comments.
  6. Third time lucky ? First try, forum ate my post, second I could not articulate myself. I think for some it might be almost sacred, special moments impossible to convey. I have special tracks I like but rarely did I hear them dancing. I find them and enjoy them at home. I often I have moments dancing and it is as much the people around and the track, mostly I have no idea what track is playing, the name of the track might have a place after the time has gone. Let's rest in those moments unhindered by thoughts.💭 We can also hope maybe the best is yet to come, it is a difficult thought but we can always hope. This track towards the end with the ambient style arp had a big impact on me just relaxing with sound system playing at 25pct one morning. I think he waited a bit too long for that touching part towards the end, great track though. There is one thing though which I am a bit saddened about and have to mention. I am missing beauty and melody in modern psy and I wish it would reappear. I almost never remember sound effects alone. Anyway in the end we can like it or lump it I suppose.
  7. 04:05 yeah that's some true Goa feelings, I could imagine people going completely zoned out and smiling to that section. Thanks for sharing. Thing with goa and psy once you are in you are in. It does something other music does not. You may wander and do other things but when you need that feel not much else hits the spot.
  8. Yes the thing that does it for me I think is that octave up bass note against that rising filtered arp, the bass line is also grinding nicely at you.. it makes a special feeling.
  9. Yes that is pretty much what I suggested, but it was quite literally from my head in a moments typing. Store that as a preset, listen carefully and consider if it is good or not compared with other types and variations of tempo synced delays. Some settings will work better with your track than others, that is your job as a producer to work out what is good an what is not. All the best with it ! Get the delays spatial effect in the stereo image nicely balanced against the definition and presence of the main lead. Adjust feedback, the send level, that is what mixing is all about. Get the balance right that sounds good to you. And listen to different leads from different tracks to try and judge if your sounds are approaching some similar qualities. That is a good way to learn. There will be variations but good track mixes will all have a good sonic balances that don't wander far from good taste.
  10. Ok let's go there others can follow and maybe learn something. With compression you need a goal. You also have to know what a compressor can do and what it can resolve. In short I do not personally use a compressor on every channel and I do not use one on the master bus either. I use a compressor when I hear there is a need to make a dynamic adjustment. So one potential use if I have a sound that is being filtered and it sound like it is escaping the mix a little and becoming to loud in some section. I will play over that section, then set the compressor up to reduce the peaks by something like 3-4dB this will hold that section in place. Sometimes you may need to automate a fader of course as part of routine mixing. Compression can perform multiple tasks, it can keep levels in check, it can change a sound character a little by making it more punchy (when set up extremely cautiously) it can smooth a sound out and it can change tone over time. It can also make the average volume of a sound more consistent .i.e increasing and lower level sections in an otherwise changing volume musical phrase or part. So we don't add compressors without a reason. They are not a tool that instantly makes things sound better. They need setting up and tweaking for a pre determined goal. I am not sure about psy trance producers at the top levels but my gut feeling is they probably do not use a master output compressor. Master bus compression can react to new sounds in a mix unpredictably, that is not something that relates to psy trance as typically it is a genre of control. It might sound free when you hear the track completed but the work that goes into it is about as controlled as modern music production gets. It is super produced and takes great care of details. Arguably in Goa trance compression was used VERY sparingly, in part because a studio at the time may only have had 2-3 stereo compressors available, in some cases no compressors would have been used. This may account for some Goa/Psy Trance mixing differences. Goa is allowed to rip a little more..it is less refined at least in the old days, neo goa probably has taken a more modern approach and there are greater dynamic and tonal controls to keep things smoother. If you listen to original 95-99 Goa trance you will hear a very wide range of mix styles as they were not pinned into position with 100's of dynamic and tonal processes, many automated, which comprise a modern psy trance mix. So you will hear harshness from time to time and splashy effects and a rather unrestrained tonal and dynamic movement. I will leave you with an extremely important point. Always ensure you match the make up gain by ear once there is gain reduction so you can hear the effect of the compressor on the audio rather than just a drop in volume. Avoid automatic make up gain and do it by ear using the bypass button. Compressors can make things sound worse as well as better ! So whether you are using one for control (ultimately reducing the volume of a loud section) or compressing for punch, smoothness or character, always match up before and after volume otherwise you don't know if it is better or worse. Then once you know it is better you can set the make up gain to the correct mix balance level for the sound you are working on, if it is to be used to control. (and hold for example the peak crescendo of a lead sound at a specific optimal volume) It can take a long time to understand compression fully, it's a long path of repetition and reinforcement of good habits to learn it well. Some compressors, classic retro compressors with valves and specific electronic design have a secondary function which we will not consider now (some have a tonal characteristic which can change the tone whether they are compressing or not) If you want to progress seriously you need to do a few things. Discern what good references are, have exceptionally good monitoring and acoustics and be willing make each track you make with a view to active learning. Otherwise you will making it close to impossible to improve in a reasonable time frame. Accurately level match everything by ear that you are making reference comparisons with.
  11. I always found this track to be quite archetypal for the Goa Trance sound. It ticks all the boxes and could be a useful reference point for the old days. It is not constrained by automating every last detail like Psy Trance is, which is fine I like that too, but it's allowed to be a little more free. It's nice and warm, borderline muddy actually and has not been EQ'd into submission for loudness alone (none of the lower mids have been sucked out and probably few High pass filters, if any) and the leads and delays are a little free sounding, dancing around a bit. By not draining the lower mids out it balances any slightly harsher filter sweep moments and balances out. Though on this particular track the upper mids are not pushed forward anyway. It is a very pleasant listen, soft on the ears and there is surely a time and place for that.
  12. It's better already, for myself anyway, kick has weight to it. Sounds like a different bass line as well. Making music is a long ride, enjoy it. I am checking the media player under Audio Goa, I presume that is the track.
  13. Good for you ! It is also good to get feedback if you are unsure and inexperienced as a producer. It is also worth understanding what level the best music in the genre sits at as you can gauge your own current sonic abilities. It is one thing to be creative and original and another to achieve a good sonic benchmark in tandem with that creativity, which can appear intimidating at first. The technicalities remain intimidating for all, because the music, especially psy trance, is at an extremely high level of audio engineering. It has become one of the most difficult genres of music to produce well. Few succeed and even fewer get signed by a big label and pursue it as a career. I am no technical slouch and still it remains a challenge to do it well. Luckily for me I have run out of ideas for now. 🤣 So I can relax and forget about it for a while that is why I am happy to be on here a bit and chat. Here is a link that will last 7 days of 3 Goa Trance style kicks https://we.tl/t-x87a1pFIQ4
  14. I have mixed feelings about using kick samples in psy trance production as they can cause as many problems as they solve (pitch vs aligning phase of bass) compared to a kick synth like Bazzism/Kick2. But for Goa this is arguably a good idea, a kick sample will take away some pain making the kick although they are actually quite easy, at least a basic serviceable Goa type kick. If I get a little time I post a couple up on here in the next few days.
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