Time_Trap

Check your PM dude !

I think this discussion is going in circles, we have to repeat ourselves. I mentioned some 'dark psychedelic trance' albums I find trippy and psychedelic, Battle Of The Future Buddhas - Demonoizer, Psykovsky - Debut and Derango - Tumult (etc etc) If you don't find psychedelic tracks in these albums, our minds and ears are very different Btw about X-Dream, I mostly like Irritant from their older stuff, and to be honest I quite enjoyed their 2004 We Interface album, although being electro-techy enough , and note that I do not like electro at all.

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I got 2,5 and 6 some days ago too . 2 out of 3 , 66,66666% , good percentage

I was talking about the crowd, not the artists, since you were referring to the crowd too, I think. But I bet a lot of the artists had done acid,shrooms or mdma, plus weed. There are of course some exceptions ( MFG spring to mind ), I am not talking about all but about a significant percentage of them.

I agree with all of the above, especially the 18-hours-in-a-row argument. By the way I think that the majority of your music classifies more as night music than morning music (the lighter/brighter stuff you have made is schlabb vol 2).

So out of curiosity you don't like some 2005 psytrance like Psykovsky - Debut or Derango - Tumult or Electrypnose ? Or you are referring to the newest stuff?

In a similar fashion to this thread, I recommended this same friend of mine some psytrance. Here is the list (notice that it's all either goa trance or dark psychedelic trance) MFG - PROJECT GENESIS MFG - THE PROPHECY MFG - NEW KIND OF WORLD MFG - THE MESSAGE HUX FLUX - TIME SLICES AND PERCEPTOR EP BATTLE OF THE FUTURE BUDDHAS - DEMONOIZER SCHLABBADUERST REKKORDS VOL 2 , VOL 5 PSYKOVSKY - DEBUT KINDZADZA - WAVES FROM OUTER SPACE DERANGO - TUMULT ASTRAL PROJECTION - ANOTHER WORLD CALIFORNIA SUNSHINE - WONDERLAND KOXBOX - DRAGON TALES ALIENATED BUDDHA - LIVE IN BARCELONA ASIA 2001 - AMA ZONE BORRIS BLENN - PARADISE CONNECTION COSMOSIS - COSMOLOGY ELECTRYPNOSE - LE TIREUR DES FICELLES ETHERAL - ANIMA MUNDI GREEN NUNS OF THE REVOLUTION - ROCK BITCH MAFIA JUNO REACTOR - BIBLE OF DREAMS MANDALAVANDALZ - POISONMACHINE OCELOT - VECTOR SELECTOR OZMALI - FOREST FUSION THE INFINITY PROJECT - FEELING WEIRD TRIMADA - LEFT BEHIND TRIMADA - DEVILISH VA - APSARA VA - DISTANCE TO GOA 1 VA - TWIST DREAMS X-DREAM - IRRITANT

Draft 7.30 is my favourite of their newest/more experimental style ( along with Confield and Untilted )

Just gave the following recommendations to a friend that recently showed interest for electronic music : =-= BEATLESS AMBIENT =-= All albums from : VIR UNIS STEVE ROACH VIDNA OBMANA BIOSPHERE DEEPSPACE MAITREYA TELOMERE JOEL TAMMIK =-= CHILL/DOWNTEMPO/EXPERIMENTAL/IDM/GLITCH =-= BOARDS OF CANADA - MUSIC HAS THE RIGHT TO CHILDREN BOARDS OF CANADA - GEOGADDI FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - LIFEFORMS FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - DEAD CITIES AMON TOBIN - PERMUTATION AMON TOBIN - BRICOLAGE ANESTHESIA - STATE OF MIND PSYFACTOR - ENDLESS UNIVERSE AES DANA - SEASON 5 VLADISLAV DELAY - WHISTLEBLOWER VLADISLAV DELAY - THE FOUR QUARTERS YAGYA - WILL I DREAM DURING THE PROCESS YAGYA - RIGNING YAGYA - RHYTHMS OF SNOW XANOPTICON - LIMINAL SPACE VA - SCHLABBADUERST REKKORDS VOL 6 ACCESS TO ARASAKA - VOID(); ACCESS TO ARASKA - OPPIDAN APHEX TWIN - SELECTED AMBIENT WORKS APHEX TWIN - SELECTED AMBIENT WORKS 2 APHEX TWIN - DRUQKS ( FIRST 2 TRACKS ) AB OVO - MOUVEMENTS AB OVO - EMPREINTES JEROME CHASSAGNARD - (F)LIGHT JEROME CHASSAGNARD - THE TIME FROM UNDERNEATH JESS M - DIGIDELICA INTRUSION - INTRUSION LOSCIL - STASES LOSCIL - TRIPLE POINT LOSCIL - FIRST NARROWS LUSINE ICL - CONDENSED LUSINE ICL - IRON CITY LOESS - WIND AND WATER ITAL TEK - CYCLICAL ILKAE - PISTACHIO ISLAND ( ΠΑΙΖΕΤΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΜΕ ΤΥΧΑΙΑ ΣΕΙΡΑ - SHUFFLED ) ELECTRYPNOSE - SUBLIMINAL MELANCHOLIES DUUSTER - HABITAT DOWNHILL - SILENT CITY DROG-A-TEK - WHO HURT YOU DJ KRUSH - ZEN DISPLACER - MOON PHASE DISPLAVER - ARROYO OCHRE - LIKE DUST OF THE BALANCE MURCOF - MARTES MONOLAKE - POLYGON CITIES MAPS AND DIAGRAMS - ANTENNAS AND SIGNALS GRIDLOCK - FORMLESS BEEFCAKE - DREI BEEFCAKE - COINCIDENTIA OPPOSITORUM BOLA - SOUP BOLA - FYUTI ALIGNING MIND - REALITY TUNNELS CASINO VERSUS JAPAN - CASINO VERSUS JAPAN CH. DISTRICT - SLIDES CH. DISTRIC VS DUUSTER - CHEMICAL ELEMENTS 1.0 DELTIDSESKASPISM - NATTMUSIK DELTIDSESKASPISM- DUNKLETS HOGTID DISTANT SYSTEM - SPIRAL EMPIRE AROVANE - LILIES AUTECHRE - TRI REPETAE AUTECHRE - DRAFT 7.30 AUTECHRE - INCUNABULA

+1 !

for me the limit for a track to be danceable is 150, maximum 155 bpm but no more.

Yeah I think that hits the nail. I prefer the dark psytrance of 2005 more, it was more danceable for sure. New stuff is not danceable, it seems it's music I don't like to listen to very often ,and when I do so I listen to it with the same state of mind I am listening to IDM. It has become mostly braindancing ( I have in my mind Psykosky's latest ).

Battle Of The Future Buddhas - Demonoizer : http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=61121 Max track bpm = 146 Psykovsky - Debut : http://www.discogs.com/Psykovsky-Debut/release/586515 max track bpm = 152 (ranging 145 -152) Electrypnose - Le Tireur De Ficelles : http://www.discogs.com/Electrypnose-Le-Tireur-De-Ficelles/release/634424 bmp ranging from 148 to 151 (last track has bmp 191 but it's chillout , so you cant even distinguish the high tempo there) Kinzdadza - Waves From Outer Space : http://www.discogs.com/Kindzadza-Waves-From-Outer-Space/release/229181 BMP ranging 146-149 and many more.I hope you get the picture. I think you can hardly find tracks that exceed 155 bmp, most are in the 145-155 zone.

Ok I apologise. Bad joke though

bullshit, a lot of dark psytrance doesn't exceed 150bmp ... Your post is provocative and ironic and does nothing more than provoking and starting a flame.

Well the drug use/abuse has been there since the very first start so your argument is invalid. As I have said before there are some albums that are gems with high amount of psychedelia in that genre. E.g Battle Of The Future Buddhas - Demonoizer , Psykovsky - Debut , Derango - Tumult , Para Halu - The World of Peace , Trimada - Left Behind (!!) and many more ...

That noisy lead is annoying.

skinhead?

antic, you missed my favourite Squarepusher album ( Feed me weird things ) , or you have it already?

Schlabbaduerst 002 Schlabbaduerst 005 Schlabbaduerst 006 Yay !

Well Lemmi certain implementations of anarchism and a system without money has happened in small scales( jewish "kibbutz"(spelling)), Spain (short period,didn't prosper for long because the fascists won the war), Argentina ( economy based on trades only ) even Christiania in Denmark. If you ask me organization in small , self-sustained, self-organized social cells is feasible ... Also you say Sweden adapted capitalism , I think it pretty much adopter socialism too .

My favourite schlabb, especially the first track is superb

^ Yeah, Scraqp is one of his best tracks production-wise , for sure ! Music-wise it's also very nice ...

That's not bad per se, dark psychedelic trance is a fine genre in my book, enough gems in it Only problem is I am somehow skeptic towards Miranda making it.. But let's give her a chance, shouldn't we ?