Kryll

i dont think so perhaps it was a person who didn't intended to create a melancholic vibe with his sounds, but sucked so hard that people felt pity with him otherwise, i think all music is created on a visceral level if it doesnt feel as it was intended to, the sounds need to be examined and re-arranged i dont believe feelings through a certain sound-design/composition can be triggered because of a standardised way of experiencing it (after some dude or dudesse decided to call his/her creation "the music where one must feel melancholic" for example) *edit* perhaps something interesting to read up on... something used for mental/cognitive purposes, through a binaural sound setup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemi-Sync

sound is energy.. waves of airpressure seems something impossible to me.. that exposure to any form of energy doesn't afflict anything at all so to start from that point.. i think you can go and think many different directions such as intensity, interval, tonelevels, and sequences or combinations of such nothing stronger than sound to intensify an impression or situation... look at movies for example

some more Cari Lekebusch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJxvGrofLgo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R637Z65k1w James Ruskin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmdkjFrTxRM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GblCVS6BUc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnOER4EblI Andreas Kauffelt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIUv2LGvLgE Ortin Cam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Umcq93CW0 Planetary Assault Systems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QcyiH7TmY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_LinQUhHnE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx7cLW45Qmk Surgeon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrqIfs19dDY Oliver Ho Heiko Laux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aEXpIkH_iQ Steve Stoll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmNfy6I9qg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb5tl7AUrts Jeff Mills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIffAg-xBLM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ4MRTh8Tv8 Damon Wild http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o54aQ3dJ5s (or some other Synewave techno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFlz0dVM1g ) *edit* forgot: Plastikman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsUuHeV76U

Robert Leiner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNsm4F8Db2c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2FnZUmf578 F.U.S.E. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM6uY0izAmY Virtus (aka Seal Phüric) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdS48kiEFE

from squaremeter(m²)'s album aswad: a side project of panacea

just that one night when empusae and imminent were playing

these are the first i think of http://www.discogs.com/release/1119400 http://www.discogs.com/label/25eme+Dimension http://www.discogs.com/artist/Curley http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mig+(2)

well ok i get your point, and i agree to disagree >as in: to me, i have a different view about it and it's all about personal preferences here, so not much use to discuss further i think some arpeggio techno btw:

genres are practical to talk about, and approach music but if your wanting to make a statement about a genre, your not talking about the music itself anymore

monotonic, yes but non-melodic ??? i guess u never heard alotta oldschool techno some quick examples i came up with just now : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp_1QO9LRYw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg0FbpDNhSQ

;-)

the further you explore electronic music, the less u can hold on to styles and nametags (imho) some good techno (prolly sounds like psytrance for some):

lol, what a goa thing to say

a geomatic track on youtube:

Goa has a lot of characteristics of the old Techno-Trance scene in Frankfurt it's all about perspective, and the scope from which u fund your arguments techno can be humongously different than trance if u want but there're more than plenty of examples where they overlap completely

it's like you're not eager to point your finger at it, while the whole equation u are using does it for you first of all... both techno AND trance are in fact house music second.. i know of techno tracks that're way more hypnoticising and trance-inducing than any of the stereotypes behind the image "trance-music" nowadays but, that's what it's all about .. am i right ? you wanna talk about 2 stereotypes in versus mode, while not referring to the stereotypes intrinsically cause basically, both are made of the same essence only the shift in timesetting and the movement through generations changed parts of the interpretation behind the names, the style, and the mindset that's just what people made of it the electronic scenes are filled with apartheid nowadays they all believe their own music reaches the farthest beyond all the heavens and that theirs is a unicum zieg ubermüsicmenschen okay... perhaps i'm exagerating now.. but if it would be a discussion about techno vs trance, universally speaking then i just don't see this discussion going anywhere but sinking under the heavy payload of disinformation and propagandistic misunderstood archetypical drawings of those "retarded scenes that also seem to exist for some sort of stupid reason" i can only conclude with these words as well (but i don't really look at them as two opposite or different things µ but i guess that could just as well be my preoccupation with earlier stuff talking....

cant be older than 1999 original release : http://www.discogs.com/release/311265 repress : http://www.discogs.com/release/44286

well.. there are more technoid tracks of him, and there are more hardtrance-oid tracks of him the technoid part i could definitely place in the schranz section but it all depends how hard one narrows a genre down to rational definitions i guess ;-)

some more dark trippy stuff

i always thought oldschool somatics stuff was made by aliens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV7vRgxM_vQ

Etnoscope Medicine Drum Moksha ? if u need only the tribal stuff, downtempo check Toirés Empusae Tzolk'in This Morn' Omina Geomatic

Picotto made some Schranz, and some hardstyle stuff , for example hardstyle/hardtrance but schranz nowadays just has a different meaning i guess heard some good stuff of him on the BXR label, but that's ages ago

i love dark music but dark psy just aint dark to me

loved it quite a bit not really 100% dancefloor material.. but still was quite a live act imo

Geomatic