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New Pentium 4 3ghz 800mhz FSBSystem

System Specifications: Pentium 4 3Ghz Processor 800mhz FSB

1GB DDR RAM

16x Dual Layer DVDRW

120GB Hard Drive (ATA133 7200rpm)

Integrated Intel Real 256bit Graphics

6 X USB 2.0 (2 x front 4 x rear)

Eithernet Lan Port (10/100)

6 Channel Sound

 

 

Pentium

4 3ghz Processor

 

 

Pentium

4 3.0Ghz 800Mhz FSB Processor with HyperThreading Technology

 

P4 3GHZ 800 fsb

Hyper-pipelined technology

Rapid execution engine

Execution trace cache

Advanced transfer cache

Advanced dynamic execution

Enhanced floating point/multimedia

Streaming SIMD extentions 2

Intel extends Hyper-Threading Technology to a

variety of desktop PCs, with the new Intel® Pentium® 4 processor,

featuring an advanced 800 MHz system bus and speeds ranging

from 2.40C to 3.40 and 3.40E GHz. Hyper-Threading Technology

enables the processor to execute two threads (parts of a software

program) in parallel - so your software can run more efficiently

and you can multitask more effectively.

 

Based on Intel NetBurst® microarchitecture and

built with Intel's 0.13-micron technology and next generation

90nm technology, the Pentium 4 processor delivers significant

performance gains for use in personal computing, business solutions

and all your processing needs.

 

ASRock

Motherboard

 

 

 

• Socket Socket 478 (P4) • Clock (FSB) 400/533/800Mhz

• Chipset SiS 661FX+963L, (Supports Hyper-Threading Technology)

• Memory 3x DDR slots (Max. 3GB DDR)

• Slots

1x AGP8X/ 4X v1.5

3x PCI slots, PCI 2.2

1x AMR (Shared w/PCI 3)

• Video AGP8X Integrated Real 256E 3D Graphics

• Features

AC97 CODEC

5.1 Channel Audio

802.3u, 10/100 Ethernet LAN, WOL supported

IDE 2 x ATA 133/100/66/33

6x USB 2.0 Ports

• Other

ASRock Universal CPU Overheating Protection

Boot Failure Guard (B.F.G.)

 

1GB

of Fast DDR RAM

 

 

In order to provide

maximum performance this base unit features 1GB of the fastest

DDR Memory.

 

Huge

120GB Hard Drive

 

 

Fast ATA/Enhanced IDE Compatible

2 MB Cache Buffer

Quiet Drive Technology

100 % FDB (fluid dynamic bearing) motors

This hard drive is the fastest, quietest and most

reliable hard drive around, and its size means there is plenty

of room for all you could want to put on it.

 

 

16x

Dual Layer DVDRW

16x Dual Layer DVDRW +/-/RW

1.44MB

Floppy Drive

Ideal for transferring

small files between PC'S

 

6

X USB 2 Ports

 

 

Supports simultaneous operation of multiple

USB 2.0 and 1.1 devices

 

Connect up to 127 USB devices

Compliant with PCI specification revision

2.2

Supports up to 33Mhz PCI bus clock

Supports PCI bus power management specification

1.1

High performance PCI bus master

USB 2.0 compliant Host card for supporting

up to 6 USB ports

Supports legacy keyboard and mouse

Integrated

6 Channel Sound

 

With the addition

of a 5.1 speaker system, this base unit can be turned into a

media pc with surround sound capabilities. This is a feature

that allows for the atmospheric game play and a realistic film

experience.

 

LAN

port (network port)

 

A LAN port allows

a computer to be connected onto a network. This has become invaluable

as many households have more than one PC and wish to share printers

and an Internet connection.

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hi all,

Ive decided im going with a desktop instead of the laptop.

 

Now would these specs be good to start, i mean buying the PC like this then, buying additional features:

 

Intel Pentium 4 3.0ghz Prescott CPU

1,024MB 400mhz Branded DDR

200GB Western Digital Hard Drive

16x Double-Layer DVD-RW

Sony Floppy drive

6 x USB 2.0

Onboard 256-bit 64MB graphics

Ethernet LAN

5.1 Channel 3D Sound

ASRock P4S61 motherboard

Stylish Black/Silver ATX Case

3 Years warranty - Click here for full T&C

Operating System Not Included - If required please let us know at checkout. Windows XP Home SP2 is available at a very low price. We will install Windows XP, set up all the drivers and install the latest updates for FREE.

Found this on a shop at Ebay.co.uk, could anyone comment please!

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I don't know the ASrock mobo and would not go for it myself.

ASUS boards is generally considered best for audio machines. ABIT would be my second choice.

And I would go for AMD 64 instead with an nForce chipset.

WD disks is noisy, seagate barracuda is much more quiet and hence better for an audio machine.

"branded" RAM don't say much, and I would expect very cheap brand RAM with that as the specification.

Power supply is important but not mentioned in the spec.

Preferably you should have minimum 350w and a reputable brand.

 

It looks to me like it a machine built for high spec and cheap price rather than a quality system.

In my experience you'll be better off spending the same amount on a machine with 521Mb of quality RAM, maybe a 2.5Ghz CPU and a quality mobo and PSU.

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I don't know the ASrock mobo and would not go for it myself.

ASUS boards is generally considered best for audio machines. ABIT would be my second choice.

And I would go for AMD 64 instead with an nForce chipset.

WD disks is noisy, seagate barracuda is much more quiet and hence better for an audio machine.

"branded" RAM don't say much, and I would expect very cheap brand RAM with that as the specification.

Power supply is important but not mentioned in the spec.

Preferably you should have minimum 350w and a reputable brand.

 

It looks to me like it a machine built for high spec and cheap price rather than a quality system.

In my experience you'll be better off spending the same amount on a machine with 521Mb of quality RAM, maybe a 2.5Ghz CPU and a quality mobo and PSU.

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Cool cool, but whats wrong with the P4 chip? :blink:

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Cost more for the same performance.

AMD is very good at doing raw floting point calculations and is just a stable as a P4.

 

Also windows is already out as beta with a 64 bit version, and in a year or two you might want to switch to 64 bit and will get a performance boost out of your AMD.

With the intel inside you will have to stick to 32 bit until you change machine.

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Cost more for the same performance.

AMD is very good at doing raw floting point calculations and is just a stable as a P4.

 

Also windows is already out as beta with a 64 bit version, and in a year or two you might want to switch to 64 bit and will get a performance boost out of your AMD.

With the intel inside you will have to stick to 32 bit until you change machine.

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I think XP64 should be out by the 1st half of next year. Would do you good to invest in an AMD64. They're very powerful. They have quite a few chips sent back to them however while intel have almost none. The new Western Digital drives are incredibly quiet. Anything over 120gig. I got a 160gig WD the other day and can't hear a thing from it. Much quiter than my 160gig Maxtor SATA's.

 

Spindrift is very right about your Mobo - it can make a huuuuge difference what motherboard you pick. You might find windows constantly crashing without reason if you buy a cheaper motherboard like an asrock. I like to assemble machines myself so I know I'm putting in quality parts. It pays off, but you have to be experienced with hardware to do it. I'm packing an ASUS but would also go with an Abit. I think they're the same company actually.

 

Also - you'll need some kind of soundcard. Look at the Audigy range again, the platinum versions are great for sound production at amateur/novice level.

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I think XP64 should be out by the 1st half of next year. Would do you good to invest in an AMD64. They're very powerful. They have quite a few chips sent back to them however while intel have almost none. The new Western Digital drives are incredibly quiet. Anything over 120gig. I got a 160gig WD the other day and can't hear a thing from it. Much quiter than my 160gig Maxtor SATA's.

 

Spindrift is very right about your Mobo - it can make a huuuuge difference what motherboard you pick. You might find windows constantly crashing without reason if you buy a cheaper motherboard like an asrock. I like to assemble machines myself so I know I'm putting in quality parts. It pays off, but you have to be experienced with hardware to do it. I'm packing an ASUS but would also go with an Abit. I think they're the same company actually.

 

Also - you'll need some kind of soundcard. Look at the Audigy range again, the platinum versions are great for sound production at amateur/novice level.

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket939

 

Mother Board Asus A8V Deluxe Mother Board

Memory 1024MB PC3200 400MHz DDR Ram

Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Disk Drive

Graphics Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR TV-OUT + DVI

Sound Card 8 Channel Digital Audio O/B

CD/DVD DVDRW 16X Dual Layer DVD Rewrite +/- (Also can write CD's)

Case 400W ATX Midi Tower Case (Same in picture)

Modem 56K V92 PCI Fax Modem

Keyboard/Mice Optional

Speakers Optional

Monitor Optional

Software optional

 

 

 

Manufacturer ASUS

CPU Socket Type Socket 939 for AMD Athlon 64FX / 64, 32/64bit, Cool 'n' Quiet

Chipset Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, VIA VT8237, System Bus 2000 MT/s

Front Side Bus 800 MHz

Form Factor Form Factor: ATX Form Factor, 12"x 9.6" (30.5cm x 24.5cm)

Memory Type 4 x 184pin DIMM Sockets max 4GB DDR400 Dual Channel

Max Memory support max. 4GB

Memory Slots 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets

Firewire IEEE 1394: TI TSB43AB22A 1394 Controller 2 x 1394 ports

Onboard Audio Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-ch, Coaxial/Optical S/PDIF out

Onboard Lan LAN: Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit PCI Controller 10/100/1000Mb

Onboard RAID Promise 20378 RAID controller: 1 x UDMA133, 2 x Serial ATA

PCI Slots Expansion Slots: 1 x AGP8X (1.5V only), 5 x PCI

No of USB Ports 8

 

 

Now is this a decent machine? Found on Ebay for £470, just for the tower...? :huh:

please critisise if nessesary!

 

Thanks

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Processor  AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket939 

 

Mother Board  Asus A8V Deluxe Mother Board

Memory  1024MB PC3200 400MHz DDR Ram 

Hard Drive  160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Disk Drive 

Graphics  Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR TV-OUT + DVI

Sound Card  8 Channel Digital Audio O/B

CD/DVD DVDRW 16X Dual Layer DVD Rewrite +/- (Also can write CD's)

Case  400W ATX Midi Tower Case (Same in picture)

Modem  56K V92 PCI Fax Modem

Keyboard/Mice  Optional

Speakers  Optional

Monitor  Optional

Software  optional 

Manufacturer ASUS

CPU Socket Type Socket 939 for AMD Athlon 64FX / 64, 32/64bit, Cool 'n' Quiet 

Chipset Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, VIA VT8237, System Bus 2000 MT/s

Front Side Bus 800 MHz

Form Factor Form Factor: ATX Form Factor, 12"x 9.6" (30.5cm x 24.5cm) 

Memory Type 4 x 184pin DIMM Sockets max 4GB DDR400 Dual Channel 

Max Memory support max. 4GB 

Memory Slots 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets 

Firewire IEEE 1394: TI TSB43AB22A 1394 Controller 2 x 1394 ports

Onboard Audio Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-ch, Coaxial/Optical S/PDIF out

Onboard Lan LAN: Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit PCI Controller 10/100/1000Mb

Onboard RAID Promise 20378 RAID controller: 1 x UDMA133, 2 x Serial ATA

PCI Slots Expansion Slots: 1 x AGP8X (1.5V only), 5 x PCI

No of USB Ports 8 

Now is this a decent machine? Found on Ebay for £470, just for the tower...? :huh:

please critisise if nessesary!

 

Thanks

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Don't go with a VIA mobo.

What you want is an ASUS A8N rather than an A8V, ie a nForce mobo.

And it doesn't specify brand of RAM or HD.

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket939

 

Mother Board Asus A8V Deluxe Mother Board

Memory 1024MB PC3200 400MHz DDR Ram

Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Disk Drive

Graphics Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR TV-OUT + DVI

Sound Card 8 Channel Digital Audio O/B

CD/DVD DVDRW 16X Dual Layer DVD Rewrite +/- (Also can write CD's)

Case 400W ATX Midi Tower Case (Same in picture)

Modem 56K V92 PCI Fax Modem

Keyboard/Mice Optional

Speakers Optional

Monitor Optional

Software optional

 

Looks pretty good to me... Good price. Ebay u can find pc's for nothing.

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Hello everyone here it is, my new pc im ordering at the end of the month :D

 

CPU AMD® ATHLON® 64BIT 3000 (Newcastle) 512kb L2 Cache (754 pin)

Memory 1024 MB DDR400 PC3200 WITH LIFETIME WARRANTY!

Motherboard HIGH END ASUS®: SATA, FIREWIRE, 8x AGP, 5 PCI etc

USB Options SIX USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT)

Hard Drive 1 SATA 160 GB HARD DISK @ 7200rpm 8mb cache (Special Offer)

Hard Drive 2 NONE

Raid NONE

CD Writer/Combi Drive 52 X 32 X 52 CD WRITER + 16X DVD ROM (COMBI DRIVE)

DVD ROM NONE

Dvd Writer NONE

Graphics 128MB GEFORCE FX5200 8X AGP + DVI + TV-OUT

(SLI) Graphics 2 NONE

Sound SoundBlaster Audigy 4 7.1 Pro + External Kit :lol:

Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Network Facilities 10/100 NETWORK CARD FOR BROADBAND - AS STANDARD

Floppy Disk Drive 1.44MB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE

Memory Card Reader NONE

Case Stylish Silver/Beige Case with 2 front USB (for basic systems only)

Power Supply & Cooling Silent 400W PSU + 120mm Fan + 19.2 dBA CPU Cooler! Super Quiet! £30

OS Required MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® XP HOME (inc. original CD & licence)

Firewire NONE

Monitor NONE

Keyboard NONE

Mouse NONE

Speakers NONE

Printer NONE

Anti Virus NONE

Office NONE

TV Card NONE

Warranty 1 Year Return-to-Base Warranty + Free Collection & Re-Delivery

Price (excluding VAT) £564.26

Price £663.00

Order Quantity 1

Bulk discount £0

Total order price (Ex VAT) £564.26

Total order Price

£663.00 :blink:

 

Now is there anything wrong with this machine or the price..? :rolleyes:

Please more critisism ppl....! :)

Cheers

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Can you give some tips on good monitor headphones?  :D

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I can. The K 240 DF Studiomonitors from AKG are excellent. The sound is awesome plus they cover your ears completely which means you won't get tired from wearing them even after hours of intensive listening.

 

Regards :D

 

-Carthago

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Don't go with a VIA mobo.

What you want is an ASUS A8N rather than an A8V, ie a nForce mobo.

And it doesn't specify brand of RAM or HD.

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I can confirm that. VIA is bullshit. Don't buy VIA chipsets because you will get disappointed. I've thrown a brandnew mobo into the trashcan just because it pissed me off that much.

 

VIA is not only worse in performance, they also have the bad habit to f$$$ their consumers by making them beta test chipsets which contain more bugs than the MIR spacestation's central computer.

 

-Carthago

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I have to add that I really don't understand why you would want to buy a Sound Blaster Audigy for audio production. You have to be f''''''ing joking!

 

Soundblaster's ASIO drivers are worse than shit, not to speak about the latence times which exceed everything you would want in serious audio production.

 

Beginners tend to forget that the most important device in a studio is the soundcard. Don't save money on the soundcard, it's the biggest mistake you can do.

 

Again, the soundcard is the core element of your studio.

 

I have both an Audigy 2 (for mp3 listening & games) and an RME soundcard (www.rme-audio.com) for music production. There's NO comparison between them when it comes to audio production.

 

Regards

 

-Carthago

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I can confirm that. VIA is bullshit. Don't buy VIA chipsets because you will get disappointed. I've thrown a brandnew mobo into the trashcan just because it pissed me off that much.

 

VIA is not only worse in performance, they also have the bad habit to f$$$ their consumers by making them beta test chipsets which contain more bugs than the MIR spacestation's central computer.

 

-Carthago

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Cool cool, but im getting this motherboard : Motherboard HIGH END ASUS®: SATA, FIREWIRE, 8x AGP, 5 PCI etc, yeah i was told the other pc's i found had shitty motherboards :D

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Computer wise, I'd go the AMD64 option. I'd go with the 939 socket. Where I differ with some of the others is the Ram; PC3200 is unnecessarily slow given the capacity for DDR2 which is reasonably priced and is only gonna get faster. As for Keyboards, etc. I have a Waldorf Micro Q and I love the little bugger - a nice compliment to Software; I recommend Z3ta by rgcaudio for software synthesis and a 'real' sequencer like Cubase or Sonar. While many swear by the software option, if money weren't a restictive influence I'd personally get some old analog gear to compliment my software, I'd get myself a kick-arse modular system from Doepher or someone like that - love 'em or hate 'em but all the 'Legends' like IM, Hallucinogen, Tristan, etc. have these in their arsenal. I'd go for a combo of monitoring with really good headphones & speakers (Yamaha MSP3's got a good write-up in a recent comparitave 'study' in FM) They're also small but have some weight. Another option for good small monitors are the Genelecs which that DJNemo guy swears by from memory. Confused?

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You really REALLY need to spend longtime over at KvR audio. There are a HUGE range of PC-related music posts over there that will help you find what you want - every PC synth under the sun, and a thousand other things besides.

 

I hear FANTASTIC things about Z3TA (I have Logic 7.1, NI Komplete2 and I still want that synth!)

 

Personally I wouldn't choose Reason. I would feel much happier with a handful of quality synths and something like Battery II for your beats, or one of the many other excellent drum samplers/libraries.

 

There is so much to choose from - I think its wrong to buy something if its main purpose is to get you started. There is a chance that one day you'll feel like buying everything over again because you've 'outgrown' it, or no longer feel inspired.

 

My first piece of equipment was a sampler, my second a hardware sequencer. I squeezed as much as I could out of both; however, I haven't switched the sampler on in three years, and I rarely use the hardware sequencer, other than for quickly sketching out a two bar sequence. It doesn't get used as a source of sounds.

 

A flexible synth like Z3TA, or one of many others, plus SX3 and a set of drum tools will allow you to sculpt your own individual soundscape. Try not to rush your software choice!

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IMHO Reason 3 is not worth the upgrade, don't do it! its much slower and the new effects/ 'features' are pretty naff.

 

i've found a lot of joy with freeware vst's, synths are only half the picture remember, effects are just as important in psytrance.

 

the classic series plugins are excellent (and free):

 

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/

 

retrodelay ROCKS!!

 

http://www.e-phonic.com/vstplugins/retrodelay.html

 

btw, for instance a real arp oddysey sounds much better than the vsti oddity (i had a loan of one once).. but once you've added the effects, eq, etc. who's going to tell the difference?

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Who can pick the difference? listen to anything by Tristan or Posford, or even listen to Entheogenic vs Posford. Effects aside, you can tell the difference. Get both Hardware and Software synths and you got best o' both worlds. Dave Smith Instruments Evolver is my next purchase, for example. Also, Z3ta is really good - really deep synth - works well with analog/hardware.

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Did u buy it yet? Did u changed your mind and go for AMD? I would recommend P4 3.0 Prescott 800 MHz FSB 1MB cache and about that ASS rock motherboards, theres nothing wrong with them, only u choosed wrong one, dont go for video on board, I would sugest to buy ASS rock VIA PT880 Pro/Ultra 775Dual-VSTA since I bought it and its great main board, I had some problems with connecting but thats not boards fault.. Anyway in the future u can upgrade to dualcore conroe CPU.. And buy DDR 2 RAM 1 GB 766 Mhz PC-5300 when u already buying 1 GB.. You can check more about my configuration I bought and problems I have here

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It may be good but not for trance or techno in general, if that's what you're up to

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fuck! :(

 

why is that? what makes bad for trance?

 

also what would you recommend as a good starting synth? I got my eyes on the Roland SH201,what is your opinion about this synth?

 

thanks for the reply btw man,it gives some help in choosing a synth!thanks! :)

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fuck! :(

 

why is that? what makes bad for trance?

 

also what would you recommend as a good starting synth? I got my eyes on the Roland SH201,what is your opinion about this synth?

 

thanks for the reply btw man,it gives some help in choosing a synth!thanks! :)

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Juno-D has is a sort of all-in-one synth with a lot of features you may never use when it comes to trance. It's also short of knobs and is more based on using the many sounds included rather than experiment and creating your own, and I don't think the sounds are directed for trance music. Still it may be good and with some creativity it may be useful for trance too, there're just other synths better suited for that.

The SH-201, on the other hand, has a build-up that seems perfect for both a starting synth and for making trance. I haven't heard it yet but if it lives up the SH name, you can expect very good sound, so check it out.

 

Edit: So all in all I guess Juno-D is a good starting "how to play and work with a synth", where SH-201 is more a "how to create and experiment with sounds" synth (which is more or less the most basic thing in making trance)

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