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    Maan - Floral Cortex (Neogoa Records)

    in Artist News and Labels announcements

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    56 minutes ago, Richpa said:

    Dafuq, I had exactly the same thing happening with Proxeeus ATMOM album being released on July 14th on national day of France. Honestly, in both cases we didn't pay any attention to thoose national holidays.

    I guess it happens when you have many releases and dates through the decade long period of music releasing.

    Anyway, thanks for nice feedback :D

    Hah yeah, fun times :D

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    The trajectory of Goa trance

    in General Psytrance

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    1 minute ago, Paul Eye said:

    Thankfully at least some of us know how to use the trim knobs on a DJ mixer

    Look at ya, sharing sekret recipes n' shit :lol:

     

    1 hour ago, Diaks said:

    If people wanna give lectures on what this music should contain according to their own personal preferences. I don’t think that said people will be very successful with their wishful thinking. Certainly not from this very small and abandoned platform. If you wanna make a real change, go produce what you think is the proper goa trance instead. And pray that it might have some impact. Because you will need a lot of prayers indeed.

    Amen !

     

    1 hour ago, recursion loop said:

    I may be wrong since I'm not a producer myself and my knowldedge of production and mixing is quite supeficial, but this is the impression I'm getting from newer releases in whatever psy genres.

    You're absolutely right :)

    The trajectory of Goa trance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Kitrinos said:

    OK, the truth is that DJSunborn put it in an arrogant and patronizing way, but I would like to focus more on my points, which I think are worth reflecting on.

    If that's your style, end of story. Of course you don't need to make your music slower! :D The point is: the scarcity of lower bpm tracks indicates too much homogeneity and the lack of variation in the genre, which cannot be a good thing. Goa trance, unlike other styles, is NOT bpm-dependent.

     

    Label owners should be blamed more than artists for brickwall mastering, for sure. But the artists, if they do care, can also do sth about it. It's THEIR music after all. As far as I know, (almost?) nobody's financial survival depends on producing goa trance. It is a hobby/creative activity that fulfils you (the artist) and that may allow you to have an extra income occasionally. That's how it is. If artists were primarily interested in making money, they wouldn't devote so much of their time in making this type of music. So, if you REALLY care (and you think your music is good enough), you should not allow others to dictate how to master your music. If I remember correctly, Dragon Twins had demanded dynamic mastering in the past. And also, some labels do care about it :) (e.g. Cronomi).

    Yeah first of all @Kitrinos, my previous answer wasn't directed specifically at you, sorry if that wasn't clear :)

     

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    But the artists, if they do care, can also do sth about it. It's THEIR music after all.

    100% agreed, on principle, but I think it's a tad more complicated than that. Depending on the context (you're a newcomer or not, you can stand up for yourself or not, etc) your choices can be very limited, and it can sometimes simply boil down to "it's either this, or find somebody else who'll release your stuff / do it yourself"......and some people know it all too damn well. Or, even without reaching that far, labels usually try to maintain some kind of "consistency" (for a lack of a better word) across releases.

    We thankfully (or unfortunately, depending on your mindset) live in a day and age where you *can* pretty much do everything yourself, release distribution included; so you now decide to release your tracks independently, juuust like you want (headroom, plenty of dynamics, the whole shebang y'know). Great; but now you sound way "lower" than everybody else, and while some DJs will adjust accordingly (or, as I call it, "do their job" #madlad), the vast majority won't even bother. People on a dancefloor will wonder why everything turned so quiet, "vooooluuuuuuume" shouts will be heard, and the Riders of the Apocalypse will suddenly show up.

    Still, as I previously said, I 100% agree with you, and some really *do* care about it, of course -- I'm merely trying to point out that it's sometimes not as clear-cut as "stOp ovErComPreSsing sh1t!"

     

    13 hours ago, Bartzabel said:

    as a producer of music for advertising & short films now, there is nothing more I hate than people who are fans but not involved in project giving unwanted advice. 

    Haha, I feel ya. Reminds me of my "day job" (software development) -- a metric shit-ton of advice like "can't you just modify this, it's so easy, like 2 lines of code to change! Why are you telling me it'll take a week to do?"

    Still, constructive feedback is always welcome. See @recursion loop's post for that (and most of his posts across the board, actually). Agreeing or not is besides the point here, but there is enough food for thought for somebody to digest if they so wish, compared to "its EZ, just be unique lol" (which is pretty fucking funny in itself coming from yet-another-dj mostly spinning the same shit as everybody else...see, being arrogant and patronizing works both ways, ain't that amazing :) )

     

    13 hours ago, Bartzabel said:

    it's fine to tell a musician to experiment & make whatever you want, but if you want to earn anything  or make a career you also have to consider what the majority want and not what the minority crave.

    Agreed 100% as well.

    As Kitrinos said though, most of the dudes producing here are doing this out of sheer passion and are not planning to make a career out of it (or at least I hope, for their sake), which is actually a blessing. You can truly do whatever you want, and if that means loading 150 emulations of a TB303 and tweaking knobs forever (*cough*cough*)...well, you do you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. This won't affect your bottom line *at all*.

     

    Interesting topic nonetheless :)

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    The trajectory of Goa trance

    in General Psytrance

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    STOP over-compress your mastering!!!!!!!!!!!,

    Yeah, tell that to party/festival organizers and/or label managers, not producers. Do you really think we enjoy having our work completely brickwalled just to please somebody's PA ?

     

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    BE more unique and for God shake, FORGET the typical Goa or Psy forms or use them minimal!,

    Be unique, and get crucified by the almighty Goa mafia who knows better, because "omG uR NoT gOa". Or try to stay within the genre's boundaries, and get crucified by the almighty Goa mafia who knows better, because "ur NOT uniQue omg". Your choice.

     

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    DON'T copy-paste ideas from others or from the past,

    See above. At the end of the day, a genre is....a genre for a reason.

     

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    DON'T make everything sound "Full-on", lower down your damn BPM!,

    Uh-oh, what if I like higher-bpm goa and anything lower than 150 bores the shit out of me.

     

    Seriously, those "tips" are hysterical and a perfect summary of this scene as a whole.

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